Roll call for 9 minute protest

[fathellensbellend]

I cannot believe that there are fans supporting the club over the pricing, I will repeat 71 pounds for Bouremouth at home starting price and kids forty odd quid, someone justify that.

 

[East Level 2]

To be honest, when I saw the highlights this morning on the City website, I was embarrassed. Mny City fans missed the first goal, and just fuelled the empty seats propaganda. There are surely better ways to make the owners listen. What concerned me more were the number of empty seats at the end of the game. We need to show our support for the team.

A friend watched on an American stream and said they explained the protest and showed just how much the ground filled up after nine minutes. I missed the first two minutes then thought "fuck this" when I missed the first goal and went to my seat.
Thousands of empty seats at kick-off should send a sufficiently loud message.

 

[East Level 2]

You could have just wrote, fuck the lifelong City fans who worry about the next generation because the free market is god. The market will determine the price and if you can't afford the price then off you fuck.

That is the way many businesses work unfortunately.
The loyalty shown by fans in bad times is ignored by those screwing many of the same fans in good times. - I don't recall drops in ST or match ticket prices following relegations in 83, 87, 96, 98 and 2001. - Actually there were a few lower prices for away games in 1998-99 but only because we got terraces rather than seats.

 

[jrb]

I've just had a pay rise where I work from the CEO and the directors.

50p an hour!

We usually get the pay rise straightaway every year when the new employment hand book comes out in March.

This time the pay rise came with an additional 1040 hours of work. That's 6 months on top of a year since the last pay rise.

18 months for a 50p rise.(compare that against the cost of living rises in the last 18 months)

The company has never been busier, and is making record profits.

As you can imagine the 50p pay rise with the 1040 hours/6 months attachment went down like a lead balloon amongst the staff, so much so that all the managers were informed by the staff via the managers open door company policy that it was unacceptable.

The pay rise has now gone gone back to the CEO and directors as not acceptable by the staff.

That was done via strength of numbers, and not just accepting an unacceptable pay rise with conditions attached to it.

The same scenario can play out at City where strength of numbers amongst the fans can get positive changes from the Khaldoon, Soriano, and the directors.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

I was on the concourse for the protest, but I actually thought Leicester had scored it was that subdued.

It reminded of the community shield atmosphere a bit. Just nothing, no emotion or noise. It’s just not the same club when the core fans aren’t there.

Same here. When we scored I couldn't hear the noise of the crowd because it was drowned out by the noise on EL1 concourse. @Bigg Bigg Blue said we'd scored because he saw it on the big screen in the stadium.

 

[.db.]

If theres that much wrong with the Club why the fuck do you support them. ?
By the way it isn`t City who are censuring City fans for tragedy chanting its now an illegal act.

That’s the only thing you took issue with out of all those points?
They key point was that it wasn’t tragedy chanting. We don’t need an official club statement when what has been sung wasn’t even a tragedy chant.

I don’t support the suits in the boardroom; I support the team, the manager, the sky blue shirt, the badge and fellow City fans… they are my team and I’d support them whether we were top of the PL or midtable in League 1, and they are my fellow Mancunians and Blue brothers from elsewhere, I want them to be able to afford to attend City games and not be surrounded by non-City fans and fans of the away team or opposition player when they do attend.

Plus, I’ve posted a list like that three times in this thread and a fair few times in other threads since about November, directly at people who said we’re moaning about nothing and the club don’t do anything wrong. And when I ask them if they’re happy with all that, not a single one has ever replied with an answer. It’s just been flippant comments like yours that doesn’t answer the question or I haven’t got a response.

 

[M18CTID]

If theres that much wrong with the Club why the fuck do you support them. ?
By the way it isn`t City who are censuring City fans for tragedy chanting its now an illegal act.

Seriously Oakie, you’re better than this. Is that your only takeaway from all the stuff he posted? I mean, what’s your opinion on everything else he brought up?

 

[.db.]

That is the way many businesses work unfortunately.
The loyalty shown by fans in bad times is ignored by those screwing many of the same fans in good times. - I don't recall drops in ST or match ticket prices following relegations in 83, 87, 96, 98 and 2001. - Actually there were a few lower prices for away games in 1998-99 but only because we got terraces rather than seats.

Our two biggest rivals, who happen to be the two biggest clubs in the region, the country and two of the biggest clubs in the world, they have had excellent pricing or excellent ticketing ideas for years.

The equivalent seat that I have at the Etihad is cheaper at Anfield and Old Trafford.

United froze their season ticket prices for ten straight years. And they’ve had excellent cheap prices for PL games for juniors for a long time (comparable to what we charge kids for early rounds of the FA and EFL Cups). These were the prices they announced at the start of this season.




Liverpool have also had excellent top end prices and ticketing ideas for years.

Liverpool’s most expensive non-hospitality season ticket is cheaper than mine, and my ST isn’t even the most expensive non-hospitality ST at City.



Their most expensive general admission tickets are capped at £61 which is what the prices start at for some games at the Etihad (it’s been £61-88 for adults against the ‘Big Six’ this season at City!). There are tickets available for adults for as low as £9 at Anfield. They also have £9 tickets for Juniors in all stands apart from the new Anfield Road second tier for all PL games.


Liverpool also have an initiative where their non-season ticket holding members get priority on home tickets at Anfield before others (so they wouldn’t have a situation like we did against Madrid in the 2023 CL semi):

Members

The official Liverpool FC website

www.liverpoolfc.com

And those £9 adult tickets they have are only available to local fans:

Reds announce ticket initiatives for young and local fans

Liverpool Football Club have today announced further details of initiatives that will bring more young and local Reds into Anfield next season.

www.liverpoolfc.com

£9 and £13 for juniors at Liverpool and United… for games against the ‘Big Six’ this season at the Etihad junior tickets have been £42-58!

If those two sets of cunts can do things like this, City really aren’t doing this right.



‘You’ve priced out our kids, you’ve priced out our kiiids, oh Man City, you’ve priced out our kids!’

 

[M18CTID]

Mate, I'm a season ticket holder for MANY decades. I've seen it all, years of utter shite, I'm just happy for everything our beautiful owners have given us since then, pains me to see people panning them.

MANY decades eh? Sounds like you’re trying to claim you’re a bigger blue than me and everyone else. Exactly the kind of thing you’ve been criticising.

 

[M18CTID]

And you are fffs, calling people cunts...out of order...

It’s simple really. Don’t be a trolling **** and you won’t get called a ****.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Hopefully the protest has helped City Matters fans reps to make progress. It was a great show of strength of feeling on Wednesday night. Credit to the organisers and everyone who took part.

Just a couple of other observations based on reading posts on here and X yesterday. Some of the Blues calling for another protest straightaway weren’t able to change their plans to go to the game and protest on Wednesday. Each to their own but I think we need to get the gist of what happened at City Matters (NDAs or not) first.

A young City fan was racially abused on X yesterday by a “regular legacy fan”. If the perpetrator come on here, just call them a FKW like you would if the target wasn’t Asian.

 

[Damocles]

A young City fan was racially abused on X yesterday by a “regular legacy fan”. If the perpetrator come on here, just call them a FKW like you would if the target wasn’t Asian.

People get racially abused daily on X by anyone for any reason. Linking the two seems like jigsawing.

And that "regular legacy fan" posts racist shit all the time. Calling out this one incident like its a result of the something the fanbase is doing, especially as every single reply is a City fan telling him to fuck off, is incredible cherrypicking.

 

[malg]

Our two biggest rivals, who happen to be the two biggest clubs in the region, the country and two of the biggest clubs in the world, they have had excellent pricing or excellent ticketing ideas for years.

The equivalent seat that I have at the Etihad is cheaper at Anfield and Old Trafford.

United froze their season ticket prices for ten straight years. And they’ve had excellent cheap prices for PL games for juniors for a long time (comparable to what we charge kids for early rounds of the FA and EFL Cups). These were the prices they announced at the start of this season.

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Liverpool have also had excellent top end prices and ticketing ideas for years.

Liverpool’s most expensive non-hospitality season ticket is cheaper than mine, and my ST isn’t even the most expensive non-hospitality ST at City.

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Their most expensive general admission tickets are capped at £61 which is what the prices start at for some games at the Etihad (it’s been £61-88 for adults against the ‘Big Six’ this season at City!). There are tickets available for adults for as low as £9 at Anfield. They also have £9 tickets for Juniors in all stands apart from the new Anfield Road second tier for all PL games.

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Liverpool also have an initiative where their non-season ticket holding members get priority on home tickets at Anfield before others (so they wouldn’t have a situation like we did against Madrid in the 2023 CL semi):

Members

The official Liverpool FC website

www.liverpoolfc.com

And those £9 adult tickets they have are only available to local fans:

Reds announce ticket initiatives for young and local fans

Liverpool Football Club have today announced further details of initiatives that will bring more young and local Reds into Anfield next season.

www.liverpoolfc.com

£9 and £13 for juniors at Liverpool and United… for games against the ‘Big Six’ this season at the Etihad junior tickets have been £42-58!

If those two sets of cunts can do things like this, City really aren’t doing this right.



‘You’ve priced out our kids, you’ve priced out our kiiids, oh Man City, you’ve priced out our kids!’

Christ, that's not a good read, and I'm not on about your 'chant' at the end.

 

[johnnytapia]

Not on the south stand level 3 concourse we didn’t. I wasn’t near the stand entrance either

Fair point.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I think a few folk are getting too polarised towards our owners. It is possible for them to be both good and bad, right and wrong.
The fact that I think they are wrong with ticketing policy doesn't mean I think they are bad owners suddenly. How could anyone when you look at the success they have brought us and the investment into the club and Manchester. Its beyond our wildest dreams. Hopefully they will listen to what fans are telling them.

 

[M18CTID]

Hopefully the protest has helped City Matters fans reps to make progress. It was a great show of strength of feeling on Wednesday night. Credit to the organisers and everyone who took part.

Just a couple of other observations based on reading posts on here and X yesterday. Some of the Blues calling for another protest straightaway weren’t able to change their plans to go to the game and protest on Wednesday. Each to their own but I think we need to get the gist of what happened at City Matters (NDAs or not) first.

A young City fan was racially abused on X yesterday by a “regular legacy fan”. If the perpetrator come on here, just call them a FKW like you would if the target wasn’t Asian.

I’m not on X anymore but someone posted a screenshot of a tweet on a group chat I’m in, calling it out. I’m guessing it’s the same one you’re referring to. Female City fan? And yep, it was bang out of order.

 

[johnnytapia]

The problem wasn't only what the proposed ESL was, it was what it would inevitably become. You want to believe Madrid, Barcelona, United, Liverpool and Arsenal executives, that's fine. Luckily most other people saw the inevitable outcome and were incensed by it.

The problem was having the Glazers on our club’s fucking website. Tin-eared in extremis.,

 

[Damocles]

I think a few folk are getting too polarised towards our owners. It is possible for them to be both good and bad, right and wrong.
The fact that I think they are wrong with ticketing policy doesn't mean I think they are bad owners suddenly. How could anyone when you look at the success they have brought us and the investment into the club and Manchester. Its beyond our wildest dreams. Hopefully they will listen to what fans are telling them.

All of this success and investment may as well not exist if we cannot afford to actually go to it.
Thr value of an owner, whether they're good or bad, is not based on success. It's based on whether or not they listen to the fans and their concerns. Which is why you can have great skint owners or billionaire crap ones. Competency at running the club is important but not the only metric.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

People get racially abused daily on X by anyone for any reason. Linking the two seems like jigsawing.

And that "regular legacy fan" posts racist shit all the time. Calling out this one incident like it’s a result of the something the fanbase is doing, especially as every single reply is a City fan telling him to fuck off, is incredible cherrypicking.

So let’s get this right because you seem very confused. X is full of scum but by your own words Blues on X lined us up call out the racist bully. How is that possible?

In fact, there are some loons on X like they are everywhere. It’s easy to go for cheap likes because some posters who’ve embarrassed themselves on X come running back on here because they are well received.

Regarding the protest, it’s great that it’s focussing on core values of ticket prices, availability of season cards and not mixing away fans in the home ends.

I don’t mind the lies you’ve told about me over several days. Maybe you aren’t well. It’s only a football discussion forum.

 

[M18CTID]

I think a few folk are getting too polarised towards our owners. It is possible for them to be both good and bad, right and wrong.
The fact that I think they are wrong with ticketing policy doesn't mean I think they are bad owners suddenly. How could anyone when you look at the success they have brought us and the investment into the club and Manchester. Its beyond our wildest dreams. Hopefully they will listen to what fans are telling them.

I totally agree mate. The club has been run in a world class way on many fronts but regarding ticketing they’re having a ‘mare.

Very few are calling them bad owners per se. Don’t forget that many of the fans protesting the other night are the same fans who are defending the club to the hilt on the 115/129/130 case. While the club have no choice but to keep their counsel on that while it’s ongoing, the fans have been at the sharp end taking the fight to all the clueless journalists and opposition fans on social media.