Roll call for 9 minute protest

mexico1970 said:
People have been abundantly clear what they mean by the term "Tourist" meaning jumping up and down when the opposing team scores and they are in our end.

But alas the hard of hearing wont/can't accept that and want everyone to acquiesce to their insecurities.
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Nonsense, a lot of people on here just dont like 'tourists' full stop & i mean City fans classed as a tourist.
 
pride in battle said:
Nonsense, a lot of people on here just dont like 'tourists' full stop & i mean City fans classed as a tourist.
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If you don't like a City fan because they are not from around here then you don't really deserve to be a fan IMHO.
 
The perfect fumble said:
This is well meaning whataboutery

The problems at City are mirrored at other clubs, take a look at Yanky owned Liverpool, I choose Liverpool because unlike Utd they've been relatively successful recently, but FSG is corporate America, they're just more astute than the Glazers at running a franchise.

Liverpool were at the forefront of the Super League and one of the main drivers around the 115 campaign to destroy our reputation, that kind of ruthlessness is as American as mom and apple pie. They'll win the league this season but they'll not invest enough to take them to next level.

The scousers might consider themselves Madrid level but FSG aren't willing to make the investment to get them there, our owners are, they have the motivation and the means to do it, and while Khaldoon talks about patience, he's actually in a hurry and when you're in a hurry you trample on stuff, particularly if you have no affinity to it.

Legacy fans are in the way of what Khaldoon wants to build here, whereas FSG pay lip service to the Anfield atmosphere, it's history and the fans, they do so because, and this is the point, Liverpool's legacy generates revenue ours does not.

In fact Liverpool's legacy serves a dual purpose, a glorious history and the Anfield experience has been commodified to keep the Irish and the Scandinavians coming even during the lean times, and be in no doubt, there'll be more lean times for the scousers and the Danes and the Irish than for us. Because FSG won't spend the money as we will, coz they're in the franchise business and we're in the dynasty building business and new dynasties are built on the ruins of the old...

hence....
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To....

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Emiratis might love football and might indulge what they see as the quirks and peculiarities of Manchester City football culture and its people, but not if it stands in the way of what they want to build, if it's in the way its gone, in this one regard they're even more of a danger than the likes of FSG or even the Glazers.
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I'm not sure building schools, hospitals, infrastructure and the like is some dominant destruction path mate.

In the picture you've shown, most of those houses didn't have indoor plumbing. Sheikh Zayed built the entire country with the consent of its citizens and gave them incredible benefits. Comparing the Al Nahyans to the Glazers is bonkers.
 
mexico1970 said:
Show me?

Every post I have seen has been specific other than the race baiters on here being consistent.
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Please... the last couple of years has been full of it, people want half & half scarves banned because 'tourists' wear them, even if they are City fans.
Tourists for a lot of City fans represents a hike in prices and REAL City fans can't get a ticket.
 
pride in battle said:
Please... the last couple of years has been full of it, people want half & half scarves banned because 'tourists' wear them, even if they are City fans.
Tourists for a lot of City fans represents a hike in prices and REAL City fans can't get a ticket.
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Half and half scarves are shit and do need fucking off, and tickets should go to regular fans before they go to fans who have just initiated a matchday membership (They don't do that though because the memberships are worthless they order rows of seats to sit with their friends from legal touts).

Again, if you're a City fan and you sit in the City end and you don't support Liverpool or the rags then more power to you.

But if you arrive on a coach with 30 other people and get a ticket to a big game in front of City fans AND you jump about when our opponents score you deserve all the shit you get and more :)
 
Damocles said:
I'm not sure building schools, hospitals, infrastructure and the like is some dominant destruction path mate.

In the picture you've shown, most of those houses didn't have indoor plumbing. Sheikh Zayed built the entire country with the consent of its citizens and gave them incredible benefits. Comparing the Al Nahyans to the Glazers is bonkers.
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I'd forgotten how in your zeal to be right all the time you deliberately misinterpret.

As for...

"Sheikh Zayed built the entire country with the consent of its citizens and gave them incredible benefits."

Consent? I'm an admirer of the UAE and have been there many times, but the UAE is a tribal autocracy for crying out loud!

as for...

"Comparing the Al Nahyans to the Glazers is bonkers"

I compared them in one regard, I won't ask you what that one point was, as It clearly went right over your head

Debating with you is a complete waste of time.

Please don't reply, you irritate the f**k out of me.
 
Marvin. said:
I see City fans from abroad, particularly from America being interviewed by Cheesy, but these are really committed blues. Technically they are tourists, but they are not football tourists. They have come half way around the world to maybe catch 1-2 games a season.

What annoys me is that on a CL night, when half the seasoncard holders don't show, a lot of local young Mancunians come to the game, and many are asian/black and they speak foreign languages and wear half and half scarfs and some people think they are tourists or casual fans. Perhaps some are less committed than a seasoncard holder of 30 years, but we were once them. And what do people want, empty seats? We will have a 62k stadium to fill. Once City's hard core was 30k.
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i don't care where people are from, creed, colour nationality as long as they are passionate blues, and everyone is treated the same, fair ticketing, fair access and a stadium full of City fans, new ones, old ones, but City fans. The one dividing factor in all this discussion is City's ticketing policy, not making tickets available to blues until they have failed to sell them for inflated sums on 3rd party sites, and the buyers are perceived to be tourists or worse still fans of the opponents. The stadium will be huge next season, what a venue it could be if we make the most it, and treat all Blues from all around the world with the same respect, the club have caused the division with their greedy policies, alienating core support chasing pound notes, short sighted and disrespectful to old and new City fans.
 
The perfect fumble said:
I'd forgotten how in your zeal to be right all the time you deliberately misinterpret.

As for...

"Sheikh Zayed built the entire country with the consent of its citizens and gave them incredible benefits."

Consent? I'm an admirer of the UAE and have been there many times, but the UAE is a tribal autocracy for crying out loud!

as for...

"Comparing the Al Nahyans to the Glazers is bonkers"

I compared them in one regard, I won't ask you what that one point was, as It clearly went right over your head

Debating with you is a complete waste of time.

Please don't reply, you irritate the f**k out of me.
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Oh, I thought we were friends
 
fathellensbellend said:
i don't care where people are from, creed, colour nationality as long as they are passionate blues, and everyone is treated the same, fair ticketing, fair access and a stadium full of City fans, new ones, old ones, but City fans. The one dividing factor in all this discussion is City's ticketing policy, not making tickets available to blues until they have failed to sell them for inflated sums on 3rd party sites, and the buyers are perceived to be tourists or worse still fans of the opponents. The stadium will be huge next season, what a venue it could be if we make the most it, and treat all Blues from all around the world with the same respect, the club have caused the division with their greedy policies, alienating core support chasing pound notes, short sighted and disrespectful to old and new City fans.
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Makes me want to put on my old Chelsea shirt and go an have a bit of crack down the Shed End.
 
blueparrot said:
Agree with most of that. Just on Matchday tickets,as a buyer, I don't expect to pay less than a SC holders,and doubt the SC holders would either so the £30/£40 cap wouldn't work.Maybe something like to price of that seat to a SC holder + £10 would work.
Good to see a post with decent proposals to talk around not just complaints though.
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Thanks, That's a good idea you mentioned!
 
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