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Pep is not going to throw this group of players under the bus.

The squad rebuild is underway.

No point crying. Pep and the club decided to stick with the current group that won it all. Unfortunately the cliff was approaching and no fucker seen it.

We are hardly going to fuck then over. This is it until the season finishes. Top 5 looks 50/50 at best.

If we ain’t good enough, we ain’t good enough. Sort it out and come back stronger with fresh players capable of performing to a higher standard.

Today’s game was just like so many. Very bland and blunt with no creativity. At least we look bit better at the back.
 
Eaststander1 said:
The game just reflected the poor seasons that both clubs have been having ..... quality was sadly lacking, penetration was too, and a goalless draw always looked to be a likely outcome ..... neither club lost, and a point each isn't to be 'scoffed at', but in truth it doesn't really help either club.

Pep seemed happy enough, congratulating all the players at the final whistle, but in seasons gone by he would have have been livid if we'd dropped points in a game such as this.
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A draw is neither here nor there to them. They also have a very important Europa game on Thursday. I think Pep knows our limitations now and a point was the plan all along. He is banking on home wins and an away win at Southampton I think,

Winning the CL to this in 2 years. The signings have been atrocious. I can’t see this squad winning titles anytime soon unless we add at least 3 top class players to it.
 
wolviedinho said:
Pep is not going to throw this group of players under the bus.

The squad rebuild is underway.

No point crying. Pep and the club decided to stick with the current group that won it all. Unfortunately the cliff was approaching and no fucker seen it.

We are hardly going to fuck then over. This is it until the season finishes. Top 5 looks 50/50 at best.

If we ain’t good enough, we ain’t good enough. Sort it out and come back stronger with fresh players capable of performing to a higher standard.

Today’s game was just like so many. Very bland and blunt with no creativity. At least we look bit better at the back.
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Every team looks better at the back when facing Hojlund
 
jimharri said:



"I saw many good things"


Bless his cotton socks.
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dont look into that too much....Pep has clearly said on numerous occasions that he wont talk negative in public about the players performances. He knows it aint good enoough - he has said it last week when jokingly asked about players bonuses and his own
 
Two aging heavyweights, fat, punchdrunk, and slow, slugging it out with no chance of landing a meaningful blow.

Only consolation was that we didnt succumb to the usual sucker punch in the dying seconds.

Final whistle felt like a release.

Please just qualify for the cl, then buy some exciting players and find your mojo again Pep.

This game was hard to take after the last few years, seemed like zero fcks given for a derby.
 
robbieh said:
Although Kev seemed to be playing as a false 9.
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Dare I say it, he was just playing false.

There was nothing good about that match. They are 14th for good reason. Eddie didn't make a serious save, they had nothing of any quality so what does that say about us ?
Why does he persist with the same old players ?
 
simon23 said:
dont look into that too much....Pep has clearly said on numerous occasions that he wont talk negative in public about the players performances. He knows it aint good enoough - he has said it last week when jokingly asked about players bonuses and his own
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He'll do it if there's value to it, but what does chucking club legends in the last few weeks of their career under the bus do him, us, the players, anyone. He'd just lose the respect of players he loves and we love. What's he meant to say, Kev's past it, Bernie is like an old horse that has run his last race, Gundo should have never come back, and Foden's not right in the head? If an FA cup semi and a potential CL place finish is this shocking cliff edge drop off then we are doing alright as a football club.
 
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Pingu the Penguin said:
Grealish and Gonzales. Swap any 2 of the 4 who started. You seem to be arguing that there was no other choice than starting the 4 pep chose today. You’re entitled to that view obviously, but I’m not sure it is an accurate take
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I would have started Gonzales I agree but that doesnt solve the issues of Gundo and KDB in particular....

Not Grealish however..he adds nothing and hasnt done for a long time. ..he was bang average when he came on and didnt look interested ...Doku was poor but at least he tried as he always does.
Pep has had many many chances to start Grealish in more central positions and the other night was one of only a couple of times he has done it over the last 18 months where KDB has struggled...there will be reasons for that and its either Pep believes Grealish cant do it and aint good enough (except against very poor opposition) or there is something else..
Ive said about Grealish before and nothing has changed my mind that there are possibly lifestyle problems that Pep aint happy about as well as him generally not being good enough
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
He'll do it if there's value to it, but what does chucking club legends in the last few weeks of their career under the bus do him, us, the players, anyone.
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completely agree
Brightwell Bros. said:
He'd just lose the respect of players he loves and we love. What's he meant to say, Kev's past it, Bernie is like an old horse that has run his last race, Gundo should have never come back, and Foden's not right in the head? If an FA cup semi and a potential CL place finish is this shocking cliff edge drop off then we are doing alright as a football club.
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Exactly - completely agree which is why i said I wouldnt read too much into what he says in interviews
 
simon23 said:
dont look into that too much....Pep has clearly said on numerous occasions that he wont talk negative in public about the players performances. He knows it aint good enoough - he has said it last week when jokingly asked about players bonuses and his own
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In this modern day and age of social media and 24/7 media coverage, perception is everything. Truth is almost secondary. And the perception after listening to that is that it was a load of bollocks. You disagree. So be it. I'm not going to argue all night about it. You think you're right, I know I am.


;-)
 
simon23 said:
I would have started Gonzales I agree but that doesnt solve the issues of Gundo and KDB in particular....

Not Grealish however..he adds nothing and hasnt done for a long time. ..he was bang average when he came on and didnt look interested ...Doku was poor but at least he tried as he always does.
Pep has had many many chances to start Grealish in more central positions and the other night was one of only a couple of times he has done it over the last 18 months where KDB has struggled...there will be reasons for that and its either Pep believes Grealish cant do it and aint good enough (except against very poor opposition) or there is something else..
Ive said about Grealish before and nothing has changed my mind that there are possibly lifestyle problems that Pep aint happy about as well as him generally not being good enough
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Jack can actually run tho. Sadly that’s an upgrade on both Kev and gundo at the moment. At least we agree tho that there was actually another choice than picking the starters he did
 
Our lads are either ageing or simply not the quality of lads in years gone by.
Mahrez would have loved that today.
This isn’t just a breather season after the 4 we have a massive job on hand to get us back to Champions league final status which we have been for 7 or 8 years.
I saw De Bruyne score at Chelsea years back and i thought we are a thing now and so it happened I have the opposite feel now.That derby was like something from the 80s or 90s when we were hanging for a point at the sty.
I truly feel pep will sort us with the correct recruitment but for sure there is a big job ahead.
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
Jack can actually run tho. Sadly that’s an upgrade on both Kev and gundo at the moment. At least we agree tho that there was actually another choice than picking the starters he did
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yeah ive said numerous times he should have started Nico

But as for Grealish no way...he was poor when he came on as well.

And there aint no other options...

Our whole midfield baring Rodri, Gonzales and foden needs replacing....

We need to sell/let leave - KDB Gundo, Grealish Kovacic - all those need replacements....HUGE SUMMER and without CL probably....i think people need to realise that this fall is going to take a few seasons to recover from unless Txixi and Vianna work an absolute miracle
 
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simon23 said:
You are presuming we get the level of player in that we need...

You are talking abuo replacing World Class players in KDB and Gundo - that aint easy and will be amde even harder if we dont get CL places which at present isnt likely

Who do you think we get to replace KDB and Gundo as no one mentioned other that Wirtz is even close.....certainly not the likes of Wharton.
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Yes I am.
We've done it before and we'll do it again. We have a healthy financial position, great facilities, a great coach and a proven successful recent history to offer our chosen targets.
We have class players to integrate to the squad from within.
We will get CL and be Top 2 next season. Bank on it.
 
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