Priced out? | Club announce that matchday tickets being reduced by up to 43% (p93)

Tim of the Oak said:
Probably true what you say mate. I know the club want everyone to use the official ticket site and exchange. Maybe it’s reasonable to expect this but our admin / management don’t understand the loathing for the official system amongst many fans. It’s more than a price issue.
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I think most people would like to use the official site themselves instead of relying on the face value pages even if it is only from a security perspective. But there are caveats to that which definitely include the pricing, actual ticket availability and not the ridiculous drop at the start of the season with tickets sold for every single game. There's knock on effects to this too. How can a family arrange/afford to go together like this for multiple fixtures? After people miss out on tickets before a ball has even been kicked they're also unlikely to be checking ticket availability throughout the season. Really is baffling how they go about ticketing in general.
 
Edghill OG said:
I think most people would like to use the official site themselves instead of relying on the face value pages even if it is only from a security perspective. But there are caveats to that which definitely include the pricing, actual ticket availability and not the ridiculous drop at the start of the season with tickets sold for every single game. There's knock on effects to this too. How can a family arrange/afford to go together like this for multiple fixtures? After people miss out on tickets before a ball has even been kicked they're also unlikely to be checking ticket availability throughout the season. Really is baffling how they go about ticketing in general.
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Plain and simple front loading. Sell as many match tickets in advance of the season and bank the millions earning interest. Fuck the fans and the families. Another money making idea they brought in, and it's here to stay. The directors can't wait to sell the 8000 seats when the new NSL2 tier is fully operational at the start of future seasons.
 
jrb said:
Plain and simple front loading. Sell as many match tickets in advance of the season and bank the millions earning interest. Fuck the fans and the families. Another money making idea they brought in, and it's here to stay. The directors can't wait to sell the 8000 seats when the new NSL2 tier is fully operational at the start of future seasons.
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There's obviously benefits for THEM getting the money up front, but I find it completely unethical. The least they could do when charging the daft prices they do for tickets is to stagger sales. I personally think they do this more to exaggerate demand and get people to panic buy than gain interest in the bank though.

Probably saves the incompetent staff that work in the ticket office a load of grief too.
 
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Edghill OG said:
There's obviously benefits for THEM getting the money up front, but I find it completely unethical. The least they could do when charging the daft prices they do for tickets is to stagger sales. I personally think they do this more to exaggerate demand and get people to panic buy than gain interest in the bank though.

Probably saves the incompetent staff that work in the ticket office a load of grief too.
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I find the ticket office staff to be great. It’s a case of lions led by donkeys.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I find the ticket office staff to be great. It’s a case of lions led by donkeys.
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Last two occasions I've had anything to do with them have been torture. First time I had to ring up about 6 times over the course of about 3 weeks. Each time there was some excuse to pass the issue on to somebody else or the right person wasn't available and they'd promise to ring back and they never did. I actually had to email Danny Wilson in the end to get anything done. Another issue I had to ring up about 4 times until I got to speak to one that offered some kind of solution to an issue I had.

Glad I have a season ticket and have minimal interaction with them. Genuinely couldn't be arsed with individual sales with customer service like that... not worth the headache.
 
Just another point. For the FA Cup semi final, you can buy a seat up at the back of the gods for £30, or downstairs right behind the goal for £45. I know the date/time is a bit shit, but some of the pricing isn't too bad.
 
Edghill OG said:
I think most people would like to use the official site themselves instead of relying on the face value pages even if it is only from a security perspective. But there are caveats to that which definitely include the pricing, actual ticket availability and not the ridiculous drop at the start of the season with tickets sold for every single game. There's knock on effects to this too. How can a family arrange/afford to go together like this for multiple fixtures? After people miss out on tickets before a ball has even been kicked they're also unlikely to be checking ticket availability throughout the season. Really is baffling how they go about ticketing in general.
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This is a great point. And when you have games rearranged to midweek night matches towards the end of a season where we're out of the title race, there really aren't going to be many takers at £71 a ticket. Football tourists who want to take a game in are unlikely to be interested in a Tuesday night match, most of the local fans who can only afford occasional games are going to swerve it, most City fans from further afield who can only afford occasional games are going to swerve it, and many of the students in Manchester who might've been interested won't be at those prices.

As such, we have a situation where literally hundreds of tickets are showing for sale in some blocks. Huge chunks of seats together which are clearly 3rd party ticket site returns because once again they've failed to sell.
 
M18CTID said:
This is a great point. And when you have games rearranged to midweek night matches towards the end of a season where we're out of the title race, there really aren't going to be many takers at £71 a ticket. Football tourists who want to take a game in are unlikely to be interested in a Tuesday night match, most of the local fans who can only afford occasional games are going to swerve it, most City fans from further afield who can only afford occasional games are going to swerve it, and many of the students in Manchester who might've been interested won't be at those prices.

As such, we have a situation where literally hundreds of tickets are showing for sale in some blocks. Huge chunks of seats together which are clearly 3rd party ticket site returns because once again they've failed to sell.
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I don't want to be the one that said 'I told you so', but I foresaw this coming years ago. In some of my earliest comments I was almost ridiculed for suggesting that a drop even as small as to fighting out for European spots would result in large numbers of empty seats. As a new member at the time I think people thought I was trolling and some were calling me a rag. At £70, £80+ a ticket the club is clearly targeting people going as a one off occasion and individuals that are ticking something off their bucket list. It really is a crying shame that for all the success we've had in recent years these games should easily be selling out. Priced reasonably they would be and in their lust for increasing matchday revenue the club have cut their nose off to spite their face.
 
Edghill OG said:
I don't want to be the one that said 'I told you so', but I foresaw this coming years ago. In some of my earliest comments I was almost ridiculed for suggesting that a drop even as small as to fighting out for European spots would result in large numbers of empty seats. As a new member at the time I think people thought I was trolling and some were calling me a rag. At £70, £80+ a ticket the club is clearly targeting people going as a one off occasion and individuals that are ticking something off their bucket list. It really is a crying shame that for all the success we've had in recent years these games should easily be selling out. Priced reasonably they would be and in their lust for increasing matchday revenue the club have cut their nose off to spite their face.
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They are using a pricing model that is extremely effective. If they sell 95% of available tickets at £70 they will make more money than selling 100% at £60 for reference 98.2% is this seasons ticket sales per game
 
jazzy said:
They are using a pricing model that is extremely effective. If they sell 95% of available tickets at £70 they will make more money than selling 100% at £60 for reference 98.2% is this seasons ticket sales per game
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Depends what you deem as 'extremely effective'. Don't know where you are sat, but near me it is nowhere near 98.2 percent. Obviously there'll be no shows and instances where the ticket has already been sold once and re-listed so don't know whether that'd be counted?, but still don't believe it to be anywhere near that figure of 98.2 percent.

Whilst they may be selling most of the tickets, most of the time they've alienated a lot of the local support which has come to bear this season. A football club is more than just numbers and it should be sold out all of the time on the back of the success we have had. The local community should be the priority, they're the ones that pick up the slack when there's a drop off. Unfortunately the tickets are still priced towards the daytrippers.
 
Edghill OG said:
I don't want to be the one that said 'I told you so', but I foresaw this coming years ago. In some of my earliest comments I was almost ridiculed for suggesting that a drop even as small as to fighting out for European spots would result in large numbers of empty seats. As a new member at the time I think people thought I was trolling and some were calling me a rag. At £70, £80+ a ticket the club is clearly targeting people going as a one off occasion and individuals that are ticking something off their bucket list. It really is a crying shame that for all the success we've had in recent years these games should easily be selling out. Priced reasonably they would be and in their lust for increasing matchday revenue the club have cut their nose off to spite their face.
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Some more of us did as well, you glory hunter. ;-)

On a serious note.

My first inclination and real concern of what was coming was when the directors decided to price individual tiers depending on where you sat on the tier. My point was always, how can you charge fans more or less money for game when some of those fans were 1 row apart, higher or lower, when the view is basically the same?
 
jrb said:
Some more of us did as well, you glory hunter. ;-)

On a serious note.

My first inclination and real concern of what was coming was when the directors decided to price individual tiers depending on where you sat on the tier. My point was always, how can you charge fans more or less for game when some of those fans were 1 row apart, higher or lower, when the view is basically the same?
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Wembley do it as well don't they. You can be in that third tier and pay less than someone one row Infront
 
Let's see what the new NSL2 pricing map is like when City release it.

GA+ at the front?
GA in the middle.
Safe standing at the back.
Side blocks.

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jrb said:
Plain and simple front loading. Sell as many match tickets in advance of the season and bank the millions earning interest. Fuck the fans and the families. Another money making idea they brought in, and it's here to stay. The directors can't wait to sell the 8000 seats when the new NSL2 tier is fully operational at the start of future seasons.
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But are there 8,000 punters willing to buy them at current prices?
 
jazzy said:
They are using a pricing model that is extremely effective. If they sell 95% of available tickets at £70 they will make more money than selling 100% at £60 for reference 98.2% is this seasons ticket sales per game
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I'm not sure where that 98.2% statistic comes from, but I find it difficult to believe. Let's face it, when the extension is open, we'll struggle to get past 90% the way we are going. Then, in years to come, when we've lost an entire generation of potential matchgoers and the coveted tourists have moved on to the next fashionable thing, we'll be in a right mess.

There is no justification for the current short-sighted ticketing strategy. None. Not from a commercial or moral viewpoint.
 
Beaker said:
I'm not sure where that 98.2% statistic comes from, but I find it difficult to believe. Let's face it, when the extension is open, we'll struggle to get past 90% the way we are going. Then, in years to come, when we've lost an entire generation of potential matchgoers and the coveted tourists have moved on to the next fashionable thing, we'll be in a right mess.

There is no justification for the current short-sighted ticketing strategy. None. Not from a commercial or moral viewpoint.
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100%

Coming to a match is to experience the atmosphere, take the core fans away there will be nothing for the tourists to witness.
 
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