President Trump

flook said:
Everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY is losing here. So why is no fucker stopping him?Are discussions taking place between the military? the secret services? "decent" republicans? His billionaire backers? I'm struggling to understand this lack of action. Americans are being hit where it hurts them most, in their pockets, and still it goes on
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It’s partly the lack of a mechanism to oust him. Short of his being declared mentally unfit there is not much can be done. The republicans in Congress should be actively fighting back, but only about half a dozen are doing so.
 
Manchester33 said:
Yeah it’s the worst possible time to sell. Best to just ride it out and hope things stabilise.

If I had a few quid lying around I’d be buying cheap stocks right now…

All the idiots in America who voted for him are to blame. They knew he was an unstable sex offender…. Difficult to understand why they thought he’d be capable of managing the biggest economy in the world.
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Is it possible that he is the US version of Liz Truss ie carrying out what others put him in a position of power for, then demanding selfish action?
 
ROCKET80 said:
It seems like there’s been a misunderstanding of both what I actually said and what multiculturalism is. I’m genuinely struggling to follow parts of your argument, as it appears based on a definition of multiculturalism that I don’t recognise.

What I described isn't a liberal viewpoint, it’s a historically and socially accurate one. Multiculturalism, properly understood, is about people from different backgrounds bringing aspects of their culture with them and integrating into a shared, evolving national identity. Diversity and integration are not opposites, integration is how diversity contributes to the ongoing development of national identity.

You seem to be framing multiculturalism as if it's the opposite of integration, that multicultural societies are just fragmented collections of people who don't engage with each other or the country they live in. That’s not accurate. The reality is that migrants and minority communities are often deeply invested in the country they moved to, contributing economically, socially, culturally, and often showing stronger attachment to national values than the broader population.

You mentioned examples like Bradford and even the Hutu and Tutsi, but those don’t disprove multiculturalism. Bradford’s challenges are more about deprivation, policy failure, and lack of opportunity. The Rwandan genocide has absolutely nothing to do with multiculturalism.

Homogeneity doesn’t guarantee harmony, what does is the presence of strong institutions, inclusive civic values, and social trust. Countries like New Zealand and Canada both diverse and multicultural, are consistently among the most stable and peaceful. The key is cohesion, and cohesion comes from shared purpose, not shared ethnicity.

The UKs national identity has never been fixed it has always changed over time in response to historical events, industrialisation, war, and cultural shifts. Multiculturalism simply acknowledges this reality and works to ensure that diverse contributions are recognised, valued, and included in the national narrative.

And this is where I think one of the biggest contrasts lies between the UK and the US. The UK, for all its challenges, at least acknowledges that national identity is something that shifts and evolves. The US, on the other hand, often clings to a mythologised version of itself, a singular, fixed identity rooted in values and imagery that never truly reflected its full population. That refusal to acknowledge change creates far more tension than the change itself ever could and which Trump exploits.
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Bradford’s challenge includes a section of society that approves of domestic terrorism. There’s no getting away from that and it is not a tiny group.
There is another group whose attitude to women is antediluvian.
Their youth have a slogan: “Every hole is a goal.”
Pretending otherwise is dishonest but Ann Cryer (MP for Keighley) found her own agent calling her racist for recognising these problems.
 
Onholiday(somemightsay) said:
What a delightful young lady..........
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Nah... THIS! is a delightful young lady
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Blue Mist said:
He is not a president. He is a straight forward crook. A thief.
This is getting stupid now. People's retirement, investments, livelihoods are at stake. It is not a plaything so mega rich fuckwits can get even richer.
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The super rich are an existential threat to ordinary people as in many cases there is nothing they won't do to further enrich themselves or in the case of the 'techno optimists/fascists' pursue their deranged agenda.

If this wasn't obvious before I think it's fair to say it is now and if this doesn't put some sort of dent into the culture of wealth worship then nothing will.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
Literally what in the fuck has he done for his 'base' in the first few months in terms of helping them. Absoltuely sweet fuck all, he's just caused chaos and hardship. It's an absolute joke.
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He's done a few things for his base. By cutting funding for various projects, reducing support for those that need it, sacking senior officials who are black and/or female etc..

His base enjoys witnessing the suffering of those not like them.
 
Manc in London said:
He's done a few things for his base. By cutting funding for various projects, reducing support for those that need it, sacking senior officials who are black and/or female etc..

His base enjoys witnessing the suffering of those not like them.
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yes but some of his base ARE black or women etc, though god only knows why they are
 
flook said:
yes but some of his base ARE black or women etc, though god only knows why they are
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Can they not be racist or sexist?

One of the biggest issues is immigration. You have large swathes of Cubans who voted for Trump on the basis they want a reduction in immigration. Clearly happy to pull up the drawbridge after them.

Yes, goodness knows why they would support him.
 
Manc in London said:
Can they not be racist or sexist?

One of the biggest issues is immigration. You have large swathes of Cubans who voted for Trump on the basis they want a reduction in immigration. Clearly happy to pull up the drawbridge after them.

Yes, goodness knows why they would support him.
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The odd thing (among the many) about Trump’s initial round of tariffs was the exclusion of a tariff on Cuba.

I haven’t read of any reason why they joined the select group of Russia, Belarus and North Korea in having no tariffs.
Unless Cuba is all-in supporting Russia in Ukraine… which rings a bell on the various UN resolutions passed condemning the invasion.
 
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