The Labour Government

metalblue said:
The problem with this single figure is how much of this is down to front running tariffs. Let’s see how the numbers look for March, that should give us some insight in to behaviours for the February figure.

Ignore it? No, be a little cautious of it? Absolutely.
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Can’t argue with that but never suggested otherwise.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Some people are just so programmed and gullible it's just not worth it @Hertzblue. Anything Starmer says is gospel, anyone else, forget it... and we have a few of these on here believe it or not. It really is cringeworthy and embarrassing
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I'm not sure what in particular you are referring to? I'm sure none of us on here take any politician's voice as gospel though.
 
Is there a labour government?
I've considered myself left of centre all my voting life, but if you call this sad shadow of a party originally created because the working class didn't feel like they were being represented in Parliament Labour or socialist then you're too stupid to argue with. If the founders realised in 100 years there'd be a right of centre Oxbridge toff called Sir Kiers in control they wouldn't have bothered in the first place.
Labour for the working class - yeah right, I think they're even to the right of the Tories.
 
Hertzblue said:
I feel a new slogan coming on .......... I've got it . " Smashing records not gangs"

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Great headline.

In the grand scheme of things, the number of people coming over in small boats is minute.

Still, creates a narrative.

Until people want to actually have an adult conversation about it, the headlines will continue as stopping the boats is impossible without a deal with France.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Good to see them waking up to the security issue of controling our own steel production - just happens to be nice and socialist too in terms of nationalisation! :-)
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UK steel production is still at an odd quandry because the raw materials are not secure. Virgin steel needs iron ore and coal and the mining of either of these is essentially outlawed in the UK. In other words for every tonne of UK steel we would need to import tonnes of raw materials from abroad which sort of defeats the point.

It's a step in the right direction but it's a mess, it's like saying we need to build our own cars for our own security whilst we import every single part for those cars from elsewhere. It's good to protect jobs and skills but in terms of security it doesn't really make any difference whilst we cannot produce the entire supply chain ourselves.

Basically if war did break out then we're screwed anyway. We don't have the capacity to build defence products at a mass war scale let alone could we scale up steel production for those products so the security argument is very weak. In terms of supplier reliability/security a lot of our steel comes from Europe and if they go down we will too.

Just think the UK is currently building the next generation of nuclear ICBM submarines. We're getting 4 of them, they're only costing £30bn and it's only going to take 15-20 years to get them into service. The Germans built 1,200 submarines in WW2 and they lost. That was obviously very different times but war scaling is an impossible challenge for British industry, luckily the same problem exists for the Russians however they're getting more practice.
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
Minimum wage up.
Pensions up.
NHS waiting list dropping monthly.
13 000 more Police officers.
1500 more Doctors
Over 24,000 immigrants deported.
Doctors strikes ended.
Railway strikes ended.
Breakfast clubs in schools.
New Nurseries opening.
Securing British Steel.
Growth up 0.5%
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Breakfast clubs in schools.
New Nurseries opening.

How many? When?
 
Hertzblue said:
I feel a new slogan coming on .......... I've got it . " Smashing records not gangs"

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Oh dear. I see you, cropping the Torygraph logo off this and presenting it as bona fide news! Let's face it, anyone going to Chris Philp for a comment needs certifying.
I can say with total impunity that this government has deported infinitely more people than the last one did to Rwanda, yet Philp is still dribbling on about it even now, through teary eyes!
 
west didsblue said:
You would know all about being cringeworthy and embarrassing with your support for Reform.
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who supports Reform? What I have consistently said is that Labour and the Tories have demonstrated they not up to the job. How much worse could Reform do? Hardly a supporter of Reform.... but don't worry you just keep on ;apping up what Starmer says.

We will see how the Nation feels in the May elections. You might be suprised to eventually realise there are a lot of people in England who also think the Labour and Tory Parties vannt be trusted..... are the all going to be wrong too?
 
BTH said:
Oh dear. I see you, cropping the Torygraph logo off this and presenting it as bona fide news! Let's face it, anyone going to Chris Philp for a comment needs certifying.
I can say with total impunity that this government has deported infinitely more people than the last one did to Rwanda, yet Philp is still dribbling on about it even now, through teary eyes!
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We'll smash the gangs he said.... meanwhile record number of people are arriving on our shores daily.

RA-RA for Starmer.

****FAILED****
 
inbetween said:
UK steel production is still at an odd quandry because the raw materials are not secure. Virgin steel needs iron ore and coal and the mining of either of these is essentially outlawed in the UK. In other words for every tonne of UK steel we would need to import tonnes of raw materials from abroad which sort of defeats the point.

It's a step in the right direction but it's a mess, it's like saying we need to build our own cars for our own security whilst we import every single part for those cars from elsewhere. It's good to protect jobs and skills but in terms of security it doesn't really make any difference whilst we cannot produce the entire supply chain ourselves.

Basically if war did break out then we're screwed anyway. We don't have the capacity to build defence products at a mass war scale let alone could we scale up steel production for those products so the security argument is very weak. In terms of supplier reliability/security a lot of our steel comes from Europe and if they go down we will too.

Just think the UK is currently building the next generation of nuclear ICBM submarines. We're getting 4 of them, they're only costing £30bn and it's only going to take 15-20 years to get them into service. The Germans built 1,200 submarines in WW2 and they lost. That was obviously very different times but war scaling is an impossible challenge for British industry, luckily the same problem exists for the Russians however they're getting more practice.
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What this clearly demonstrates is that it’s time to drop this net zero bollocks and re open our industry.
We need to reopen some coal mines. Tap into our national gas supplies in the North Sea and continue opening new oil fields and stop being reliant on external services. If the recent utilities pricing crisis and this self made steel crisis have shown anything it is how stupid UK and European policies are.
 
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