As I suspected, you are adding implications to the judgement which are not warranted. I have now read the judgement in full and the judges were very clear as to the limits of their findings. The lawyers and those affected are now poring over the judgement and trying to work out what the implication might be down the line.
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UK supreme court ruling on legal definition of a woman
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The perfect fumble
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Do keep me in the loop.As I suspected, you are adding implications to the judgement which are not warranted. I have now read the judgement in full and the judges were very clear as to the limits of their findings. The lawyers and those affected are now poring over the judgement and trying to work out what the implication might be down the line.
It’s not a subject in which I am heavily invested, but I may post after lawyers etc have expressed their opinion. I think there may be a comeback from the trans organisations.Do keep me in the loop.
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Some lawyers expressed more than an opinion today. They clarified the law.It’s not a subject in which I am heavily invested, but I may post after lawyers etc have expressed their opinion. I think there may be a comeback from the trans organisations.
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There's comeback from flat earthers too but it doesn't mean we disregard science. I may be wrong but my feeling is that the trans folk are largely happy to just be quietly accepted and allowed to get on with their lives. I'm not sure the 'trans organisations' actually do them much good and actually just attract unwelcome attention and hostility.It’s not a subject in which I am heavily invested, but I may post after lawyers etc have expressed their opinion. I think there may be a comeback from the trans organisations.
If it wasn't so sad in terms of the human collateral it would actually be quite amusing watching the false logic of gender ideology eat itself.
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RejoiceSame sex spaces are legally protected. Your individual likes and dislikes largely are not
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Rapinoe, say no more.One female athlete who lobbies for trans inclusion? Megan Rapinoe.
My audience? People who want to watch women's football with other fans of women's football.
Genuine question.
Would you be happy to see the City Women's team comprised of 11 "trans women"?
Bluesince1979
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This is exactly what im waiting to see when shes back after hols. Supposed to get changed separate, ends up with them all as hes mates with some of the girls. Im monitoring it closelyHe's clearly a wrong un - they'll probably remove your daughter and make her change on her own.
Seriously, hopefully the ruling today will put a stop to this silliness. The emperor may not have clothes, but everyone can see he has a cock and balls.
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It’s good that people have legal rights that are protected.Rejoice
Beyond that, whatever people wish to think about themselves is all good by me
So yes it’s good to agree with you. Rejoice
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As I suspected, you are adding implications to the judgement which are not warranted. I have now read the judgement in full and the judges were very clear as to the limits of their findings. The lawyers and those affected are now poring over the judgement and trying to work out what the implication might be down the line.
They made quite a big deal of gender reassignment still being a protected characteristic and just because of that it’s still a fair way away from the clarity some are assuming.
That and the implications of trans men having legal protection as women.
Rapinoe, say no more.
Genuine question.
Would you be happy to see the City Women's team comprised of 11 "trans women"?
"Rapinoe say no more." Oh dear.
So lets juat recap where we're up to.
Man speaks on behalf of women.
Woman says you don't speak for her.
Man challenges woman to name another woman who disagrees with him.
Woman names another woman.
Man says "no not that woman".
Thank you for you allyship.
Bluesince1979
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Ive always said i dont give one hoot if my kids were gay. May be difficult in some aspects but as i dont have a homophobic bone in my body it couldnt give a toss as long as they are happy.
I think if my son or daughter wanted to transition into the opposite sex i would struggle. I wouldnt stop loving them, but i dont mind admitting id find it really hard to cope with. Surely youre are effectively ‘losing’ your son.
The person they were have gone
I think if my son or daughter wanted to transition into the opposite sex i would struggle. I wouldnt stop loving them, but i dont mind admitting id find it really hard to cope with. Surely youre are effectively ‘losing’ your son.
The person they were have gone
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Despite being the front page news on every UK media outlet including the BBC, if it's all such trivial reactionary nonsense, of concern only to the feeble minded and easily led, ask yourselves the question "what the f**k am I doing in here?*
Please don't get back to me, I'm adopting the bluethrunthru no reply policy, the poor chap has echochamberitis.
I’ve no intention of engaging.Despite being the front page news on every UK media outlet including the BBC, if it's all such trivial reactionary nonsense, of concern only to the feeble minded and easily led, ask yourselves the question "what the f**k am I doing in here?*
Please don't get back to me, I'm adopting the bluethrunthru no reply policy, the poor chap has echochamberitis.
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What now ?My daughters school have what is called two furys. They identify as cats, they are allowed to wear different uniform where as other kids are punished for slightest misdemeanours in uniform
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I would. Preferably made up of most of the 2017 first team squad paid a wedge to transition. They'd piss the league.Rapinoe, say no more.
Genuine question.
Would you be happy to see the City Women's team comprised of 11 "trans women"?
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Ive always said i dont give one hoot if my kids were gay. May be difficult in some aspects but as i dont have a homophobic bone in my body it couldnt give a toss as long as they are happy.
I think if my son or daughter wanted to transmission into the opposite sex i would struggle. I wouldnt stop loving them, but i dont mind admitting id find it really hard to cope with. Surely youre are effectively ‘losing’ your son.
The person they were have gone
I know people who have been through it and it is a struggle, it’s not the person they were that have gone though, it’s the person you personally viewed them as has gone. The person they actually were hasn’t really changed, at least in the most extreme of gender dysphoria cases.
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You named one out of thousands and thousands of professional female athletes. One who's known for being controversial. Let's just say she's in a minority."Rapinoe say no more." Oh dear.
So lets juat recap where we're up to.
Man speaks on behalf of women.
Woman says you don't speak for her.
Man challenges woman to name another woman who disagrees with him.
Woman names another woman.
Man says "no not that woman".
Thank you for you allyship.
I see you avoided the question though.
Bluesince1979
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I understand thatI know people who have been through it and it is a struggle, it’s not the person they were that have gone though, it’s the person you personally viewed them as has gone. The person they actually were hasn’t really changed, at least in the most extreme of gender dysphoria cases.
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I understand that
Like I said it is a struggle so I understand your sentiment too.
You named one out of thousands and thousands of professional female athletes. One who's known for being controversial. Let's just say she's in a minority.
I see you avoided the question though.
You only asked for one. You made.a real point of asking me to name ONE. I could also point to the fact that the entire USWNT issued a statement censuring a teammate when a pile of their homophobic and transphobic tweets were unearthed last year. The NWSL also issued a statement in support of Barbra Banda after British transphobes decided to start questioning her biological sex recently.
In response to your completely insane hypothetical question? Would I care if all of City's women's team was transgender. No I wouldn't care. I'd be extremely fucking shocked though that 0.1% of the entire population had somehow swung that.
Anyway we're getting away from the point now which was you have literally no business making out that women don't want trans women anywhere near sport. Plenty of women do but you still seem to be in denial of that.
It's almost as if you don't really care what women think useless they're confirming you're own pre existing biases. That doesn't help women at all. Your efforts would be better spent wondering why it is that women are so afraid of men in the first place and what can be done about that. It's rarely the actions of a trans woman that has made them feel that way.