UK supreme court ruling on legal definition of a woman

roubaixtuesday said:
I wanted to be clear and unambiguous. I think that "cis women" is clearer and shorter in that context than "biological women who have not subsequently transitioned to be recognised as male gender" which I think would be the alternative in that context.
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Or just, 'Women' ..
 
roubaixtuesday said:
From the miracle of Google

www.historians.org

Tracing Terminology – AHA

Avery Dame traces the origins and historical uses of the term "cisgender," which was added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2015.
www.historians.org www.historians.org
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I took the time to read that nonsense, and it indeed confirms that the 'cis' thing is a load of bollocks, fairly recently invented to make a few people feel better about themselves and elbow the women to one side to make room for their silly ideas. Utter drivel.
 
The perfect fumble said:
Accusing me of posting bile wasn't exactly Noam Chomsky either.

I'll give you credit, at least you ran away crying "bile!", others just run and hide.
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BILE

noun
1.
a bitter greenish-brown alkalinefluid that aids digestion and is secreted by the liver and stored in the gallbladder.

2.
anger; irritability.
"that topic is sure to stir up plenty of bile"

YES, I was spot on! That’s EXACTLY what you’re doing!


The perfect fumble said:
If you think I'm an obsessed bigot, a transphobe, probably a homophobe, a right wing troll stirring the shit to vex the libtards, then okay, you explain gender identity ideology to me, engage, don't just cut and run.

This is the post blurthrunthrue didn't answer, it's full of UK references but a quick google will fill in the gaps....



Or if you prefer defend your own position, but please don't just lay it out as if it's self evident, a given, accepted fact, the next inevitable step in progress and enlightenment, because whatever it is it isn't any of those things, at least not yet, let's be honest these things are not a given even in your own country, where I don't need to remind you you've just done a dramatic high speed u turn.

DEFENDING WOMEN FROM GENDER IDEOLOGY EXTREMISM AND RESTORING BIOLOGICAL TRUTH TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT​


https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...g-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/

Elvis hasn't left the building, the jury is still out, why don't you bring the verdict in with a compelling case. If you do I'll answer it with respect, otherwise we can just go on with either slugging it out or running away.

It's up to you.
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Unfortunately, you’re throwing feces in all directions and it’s getting shit on everyone!

I’m not the spokesperson for this issue, nor would I choose that job, as I thought was clear from my likes and my posts.

Like many societal issues, this one might need some time to percolate before the knuckle-draggers realize there’s a there there, but we shouldn’t elevate it into some egregious affront to knuckle-draggers, either.

Do you believe in “intersex” people?

Do you believe there are as many of them as there are gingers?

There is much to life about which I am learning every day. As someone who is moderately well-educated, that suggests the less well-educated have lots to learn. And, before you think that’s a knock on you, it’s not, it’s a statement about wider society.

Society often changes in fits and starts, often based on the political will to accept the changes, legislate for their protection, and to allow society to “catch up” to where the puck is today, not even to where it’s going.

In your zeal to trample any and all dissent, you are sending rants my way. I’m neither convinced nor interested, as I think this is a deeply personal position about which you’re not going to change minds.

Would you like to fling some shit about God, abortion, Palestine, Ukraine, Trump while you’re screaming into the abyss? And, don’t be too quick to find solace in the majority (especially on this thread!), either. It can lead to leaning out a smidge too far.

As for “running away” from you, you give yourself far too much credit. I often cross the street to avoid whatever might be disturbing the path ahead. Don’t confuse avoidance (or moving in another direction) with fear or shrinking from a necessary fight. This, and you on this, is not it.

Be well
 
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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I took the time to read that nonsense, and it indeed confirms that the 'cis' thing is a load of bollocks, fairly recently invented to make a few people feel better about themselves and elbow the women to one side to make room for their silly ideas. Utter drivel.
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I get why it’s talked about more but it’s doesn’t just apply to women.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
BILE

noun
1.
a bitter greenish-brown alkalinefluid that aids digestion and is secreted by the liver and stored in the gallbladder.

2.
anger; irritability.
"that topic is sure to stir up plenty of bile"

YES, I was spot on! That’s EXACTLY what you’re doing!

Unfortunately, you’re throwing feces in all directions and it’s getting shit on everyone!

In your zeal to trample any and all dissent, you are sending rants my way.

Would you like to fling some shit about God, abortion, Palestine, Ukraine, Trump while you’re screaming into the abyss?
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Fair and balanced.

Cheerio.
 
meltonblue said:
I get why it’s talked about more but it’s doesn’t just apply to women.
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Good point. I'm not sure of the numbers /stats, but there are either a lot less trans women, they are less visible, or the media has decided not to use them to stir the pot.
 
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