Reform 2025 Limited new name same business

at least we can look forward to another summer of large scale public disorder at the slightest thing (lie) happening.

One bright spot from today is reform now have some power-they can no longer simply carp from the sidelines-they have to actually do things. and they will fail-but it will be spun to blame brown people and labour..

would be ice to have less platforming mind-but thats only going to get much, much worse.
 
lefty goldblatt said:
The state of this thread.
People are labelled morons, thick, racist etc for having the temerity to disagree with the political elite on here.

Personally, I think politicians of all coloured rosettes are chancers, who are desperate for power, with little thought for the man on the street.
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I’m political elite? I’m oddly flattered.
 
BobKowalski said:
I read earlier that it was areas with less graduates, higher proportion of 65 plus and with a more traditional manufacturing or an agricultural base that swung more to Reform.

Basically, Lincolnshire :)
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It interests me to see if there is a growing swell in the electorate or whether there was apathy elsewhere, seeing that the turn-out was so low.

No replies, can assume most on here are over that age.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
My lot? you really are naive aren't you?
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The naievity is from those who think Farage, Tice , Anderson and co have any sensible, achievable policies. It really is 2016 all over again, vote for real change, take control, get sovereignty-all sounds OK. Let's give it a try. Result, the promises were false and the country is £290,000,000 PER DAY worse off. Suck it up Joe, I can afford the forthcoming shit you so dearly wish for-can you??
 
hampshireblue said:
The naievity is from those who think Farage, Tice , Anderson and co have any sensible, achievable policies. It really is 2016 all over again, vote for real change, take control, get sovereignty-all sounds OK. Let's give it a try. Result, the promises were false and the country is £290,000,000 PER DAY worse off. Suck it up Joe, I can afford the forthcoming shit you so dearly wish for-can you??
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To win you have to first understand the game you are playing. After voting for successive Tory and now Labour governments that have lied, over-promised and failed to deliver, why is it so outrageous that the public fancy a change of scenery by voting for reform?
 
Since being a kid in the 60,s all I’ve ever known is either labour or Conservatives being the only parties most of us know. And in all that time they have both lied and cheated the public in more ways than one we all want a better future for all our children. It’s time for change a different party just not sure if Reform can deliver
 
city2 said:
Since being a kid in the 60,s all I’ve ever known is either labour or Conservatives being the only parties most of us know. And in all that time they have both lied and cheated the public in more ways than one we all want a better future for all our children. It’s time for change a different party just not sure if Reform can deliver
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100% this...^^^
 
There is quite a long and consistent history of populist extreme right politicians gaining elected office and immediately running into the sand , going back at least as far as a character called Derek Beackon, who was elected in 1993 to Tower Hamlets council for the BNP, and wasted no time in demonstrating why he was totally incapable of doing the job he was nominally elected to do. He lasted eight months.

The tradition has continued through elected UKIP, Brexit Party, and Reform UK ( they’re basically all the same) candidates, right through to today. Farage is a lazy, self-interested, grifting **** who has held no advice surgeries in Clacton since he was elected as their MP nine months ago, and barely bothers to attend parliament. As an MEP, his record was startlingly similar. Talk of him as the next PM is utterly risible, and if (Dawkins forbid) it should ever come to pass, the frog-faced fascist would undoubtedly continue the tradition, and probably only just better the duration of Liz Truss’s tenure in the job.
 
I can understand people being done with Labour and Conservatives, but voting for reform is like not enjoying your last jalfrezi and Madras and eating a huge pile of shit instead. We all know what it will taste like.
 
hcblue95 said:
I can understand people being done with Labour and Conservatives, but voting for reform is like not enjoying your last jalfrezi and Madras and eating a huge pile of shit instead. We all know what it will taste like.
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Please justify what you just said. They have never held office, therefore have no track record yet you dismiss them. I can remember back to the days of Ted Heath and there's not one single government that has improved the country since. They're all in it for themselves and their mates. I voted for them at the last election and will do so at the next. It took me a long time to realise that labour and the Tories don't give a shit about the average person.
 
tweety said:
Please justify what you just said. They have never held office, therefore have no track record yet you dismiss them. I can remember back to the days of Ted Heath and there's not one single government that has improved the country since. They're all in it for themselves and their mates. I voted for them at the last election and will do so at the next. It took me a long time to realise that labour and the Tories don't give a shit about the average person.
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Just not true - the UKIP Party - led by Farage and a Party a lot of whose members and councillors stood for Reform Ltd won control of Thanet Council in 2017 - did fuck all except bankrupt the council and as soon as 2018 there was a massive falling out all the UKIP councillors resigned from the Party in protest of the authoritarian way it was run and later that year Farage cut and run and scuttled off to form Brexit thats him and a lot of them in office and thats their track record. Chaos, inability to run a local council and everybody quits before the finger is pointed their way
 
tweety said:
Please justify what you just said. They have never held office, therefore have no track record yet you dismiss them. I can remember back to the days of Ted Heath and there's not one single government that has improved the country since. They're all in it for themselves and their mates. I voted for them at the last election and will do so at the next. It took me a long time to realise that labour and the Tories don't give a shit about the average person.
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Perhaps its not the political parties that are the problem if no political party can improve things. Is there a political party that has improved things across Europe, let alone UK, in the last 50 years or more?
 
tweety said:
Please justify what you just said. They have never held office, therefore have no track record yet you dismiss them. I can remember back to the days of Ted Heath and there's not one single government that has improved the country since. They're all in it for themselves and their mates. I voted for them at the last election and will do so at the next. It took me a long time to realise that labour and the Tories don't give a shit about the average person.
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You can judge it on the performance of their MPs so far and their interventions in the commons in particular.

That should have been enough to make no one want to vote for them but I don’t think most people pay attention to that at all, or get the snippets that they themselves put on social media.

Personally I’m ok with the results today and glad it’s happened this long before the next general
election. Reform have taken over my council and let’s see how they do now they’ve got some actual power.
 
arbabarshad said:
Perhaps its not the political parties that are the problem if no political party can improve things. Is there a political party that has improved things across Europe, let alone UK, in the last 50 years or more?
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Latter years of Major and first few years of Blair were absolutely an improvement on what went on previously.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Just not true - the UKIP Party - led by Farage and a Party a lot of whose members and councillors stood for Reform Ltd won control of Thanet Council in 2017 - did fuck all except bankrupt the council and as soon as 2018 there was a massive falling out all the UKIP councillors resigned from the Party in protest of the authoritarian way it was run and later that year Farage cut and run and scuttled off to form Brexit thats him and a lot of them in office and thats their track record. Chaos, inability to run a local council and everybody quits before the finger is pointed their way
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A bit like Welsh Labour then:-)
 
bluethrunthru said:
Just not true - the UKIP Party - led by Farage and a Party a lot of whose members and councillors stood for Reform Ltd won control of Thanet Council in 2017 - did fuck all except bankrupt the council and as soon as 2018 there was a massive falling out all the UKIP councillors resigned from the Party in protest of the authoritarian way it was run and later that year Farage cut and run and scuttled off to form Brexit thats him and a lot of them in office and thats their track record. Chaos, inability to run a local council and everybody quits before the finger is pointed their way
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I live in Warrington and we've always had a labour controlled council, we have well over a billion of debt, we're essentially bankrupt, your thoughts please.
 
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