Pep Guardiola - 2024/25

[Gumzy97]

I think if we are going to do a rebuild I think you go the full rebuild as well as new players also a new manager.

Peps gone through a lot this year personal issues etc maybe he needs to take a break. Leave at the end of the season take a sabbatical. Then comeback fresh for an international job for example.

Peps thinking this season has been all over the place. Palace today an example no DM etc

 

[kippaxchris]

Again I'll say look at the bigger picture.
The club possibly as a whole have reached the peak and need a reset.
We've been absolute dogshit this year but could still get champions league.
Isn't that what you new fans want?

You have just called somebody who's been A member of this forum longer than yourself a NEW FAN. Drop the super fan attitude, it's not a good look mate.

 

[DMA's]

To be fair, we already had the core of that centurion team. Aguero, KDB, Silva, Fern, Kompany, Otamendi, Sterling. We have no way near the amount of crucial players now.

Towards the end of that 16/17 season there where signs we where coming together. I seem to remember a great win at Watford from memory where we looked amazing.

We then had a great window to finish what we needed

This team is nothing like that team. It’s done. It’s finished

 

[AlthamBlue]

Again I'll say look at the bigger picture.
The club possibly as a whole have reached the peak and need a reset.
We've been absolute dogshit this year but could still get champions league.
Isn't that what you new fans want?

But could still get the CL, what an achievement with the money spent and having Pep in charge. And I’ve supported us since the 80s, only gave up my season ticket last season.

 

[super_city_si]

Clearly he has struggled this season big time for whatever reason

He clearly needs top quality players for his system. We have sub par right now, either too old or too green.

 

[MCFC1993]

Why is it shite? Because you don't agree with it? What bigger picture should I be looking at? He's destroyed us this season with his madness.

He's destroyed us but not:
- Last years PL POTS playing the invisible man.
- A free flowing Gundo looking unbeatable in a Barca side and then losing his legs.
- KDB losing his legs to a point where he can't create a yard of space for a cross.
- Walker losing his legs to the point where he goes from locking down Vini Jr to struggling with Dwight McNeil.
- Rodri doing his ACL.
- Ake and Stones missing most of the season.
- Dias, Akanji and Haaland missing large chunks of the season.

Pep is not infallable but it's 1 fucking season in 8 years. 2 in 9 years (I won't include 2019/20 because we were actually decent that season).

He's definitely made mistakes this year but a lot of them have come from trying to correct so many unforseen incidents.

 

[Mancini’s Pastilles]

Fuckin state of entitled wankers on here.

We've just lost the fa cup.

It happens. We aren't going to win every trophy we are in, you have to accept that unless you are a jonny come lately and all you have known is success.

Before these hangers on we'd won stuff. And don't anyone tell me to shut up because you say it's all about the now.

Wrongo.

You have to accept defeat, you have to accept the good with the bad. Pep has gave us so much joy. Embrace it. Once he's gone it's done.

Once hes gone its done? What a load of absolute cock

 

[HypnoticBlue]

Football isn’t about who is best anymore, it’s about money and ours is the wrong colour.
VAR has done the opposite of what it was supposed to do, they just use what ever rule /excuse they need to fit the result they need.
City have to be twice as good as the other team & officials we’re playing , and every chance we take is then looked at under a microscope, all the bollocks with UEFA then PL’s 115 is never gonna stop whilst we are Arab owned.
That non red card today was probably the final straw for me, it’s really not worth the stress it causes anymore.

 

[Dazzle84]

His end of season review needs to be stark and honest. He needs to learn from his mistakes this season and show he's got the determination to go again.

Nothing against Echeverri who actually showed up well, but what the fuck was that sub all about from Pep? Kick in the teeth to a fair few senior pros on the bench that

 

[manimanc]

Once hes gone its done? What a load of absolute cock

I mean once he's gone personally I don't think we'll hit the heights.
Who is out there?
Please don't say that bellend from Arsenal.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Think he's done tbh. And think we need to be careful how we spend our money this summer. We won't get multiple chances of spending tens/hundreds of millions. We spent 120 million in January on khusanov, Garcia and the other lad can't even remember his name, and Pep prefers to watch kev fall over himself and bernardo spin around in circles all game whilst we surrender a cup final to weaker opposition. If it's not them it will be gundo next season.

Football changes quickly. The alarm bells are ringing right in front of our faces

We won't change it and we might watch pep stubbornly drive us over the edge of a cliff next season. Like he has done this. Like he probably will on Tuesday.

 

[Mancini’s Pastilles]

I mean once he's gone personally I don't think we'll hit the heights.
Who is out there?
Please don't say that bellend from Arsenal.

Definitely we will never have it as good for sure, however were so well set up with best owner chariman etc. I cant say who id be confident with coming in. But club has all the tools any manager would ever need

 

[manimanc]

You have just called somebody who's been A member of this forum longer than yourself a NEW FAN. Drop the super fan attitude, it's not a good look mate.

You are correct.

My bad @AlthamBlue i take it back.

Honestly my bad. Beer. Bad day. Gobby fucker.

 

[manimanc]

Definitely we will never have it as good for sure, however were so well set up with best owner chariman etc. I cant say who id be confident with coming in. But club has all the tools any manager would ever need

Fair comment.

 

[AlthamBlue]

You are correct.

My bad @AlthamBlue i take it back.

Honestly my bad. Beer. Bad day. Gobby fucker.

We’re all pissed off, apology accepted. Still think he needs to go :)

 

[ScottSinclair]

Because we were even worse in 2016/17

No. That team had a very clear future but also a very clear past, on the back of two pretty stale Pellegrini seasons. But it also had an exciting manager with a fresh backroom staff, a new playstyle England had not seen before that made us the best team in the lague between the two boxes, and a fantastic run-in that led us into a summer where it was pretty obvious were we needed to strengthen.

Now we have a awful, imbalanced squad where we will likely only get rid of a few of the old guard when they all should be going. A manager that seems to have run out of ideas, the same assistant manager we have had for years despite the play on the pitch declining massively. As a club we have comitted to Haaland (who is a superstar and great at what he does) for the next 10 years, but we have refused to play to his strenghts since he came here, and unless that changes we are really just going to have a poacher that scores a lot of goals in a declining team that does not suit him. Another young key player in Foden looks like he has forgotten how to play football on the top-level. If it were only the oldies in the squad that were the issue maybe our problems wouldn't be that bad.

16/17 felt like the start of a transition, were we could identify and rectify the last remaining pieces of the puzzle as the season went on.

This season has been like a tidal wave of issues that the club should have seen coming, but also a bunch of issues spawned out of the blue. Maybe we can rise from it already next season even if it ends up in Europa League. But anyone that see any kind of direction or progress amongst the waves are delusional. It has been the blind leading the blind all season

 

[Dax777]

The solution of the opposition is to just mid block us and its super effective.

In our 343, the 7 midfielders/forwards are easily man marked, since they dont care about pressing the CBs.

In our disaster run where we played with 3 atb, we were awful.

Pep solved this by going back to 2 at the back and having an extra body higher up so we can play through a mid block better.

Then Haaland comes back and he abandons this all of a sudden, mad decision by him.

We literally thrashed Palace when we made this change the last time we played them after suffering early on.

His decisions are mind boggling.

We didn't even suffer early on. They just happened to score from 2 of their 3 early chances. The difference though was that we were cutting them open at will.


While they had fewer chances today. We were useless coz nothing worked efficiently oe effectively.

 

[Blue Maverick]

His end of season review needs to be stark and honest. He needs to learn from his mistakes this season and show he's got the determination to go again.

Nothing against Echeverri who actually showed up well, but what the fuck was that sub all about from Pep? Kick in the teeth to a fair few senior pros on the bench that

He brought Echeverri on because there was no one else, Grealish wouldn’t have made a slight bit of difference and everyone else was more defensive, personally I’d have kept Marmoush on and took Akanji off we didn’t need 4 defenders at the time.

 

[MCFC1993]

No. That team had a very clear future but also a very clear past, on the back of two pretty stale Pellegrini seasons. But it also had an exciting manager with a fresh backroom staff, a new playstyle England had not seen before that made us the best team in the lague between the two boxes, and a fantastic run-in that led us into a summer where it was pretty obvious were we needed to strengthen.

Now we have a awful, imbalanced squad where we will likely only get rid of a few of the old guard when they all should be going. A manager that seems to have run out of ideas, the same assistant manager we have had for years despite the play on the pitch declining massively. As a club we have comitted to Haaland (who is a superstar and great at what he does) for the next 10 years, but we have refused to play to his strenghts since he came here, and unless that changes we are really just going to have a poacher that scores a lot of goals in a declining team that does not suit him. Another young key player in Foden looks like he has forgotten how to play football on the top-level. If it were only the oldies in the squad that were the issue maybe our problems wouldn't be that bad.

16/17 felt like the start of a transition, were we could identify and rectify the last remaining pieces of the puzzle as the season went on.

This season has been like a tidal wave of issues that the club should have seen coming, but also a bunch of issues spawned out of the blue. Maybe we can rise from it already next season even if it ends up in Europa League. But anyone that see any kind of direction or progress amongst the waves are delusional. It has been the blind leading the blind all season

And yet they were worst than this team.

Kolarov, Clichy, Sagna, Zabaleta, Fernando, Mangala etc...

It'd the same situation but different position.

Summer 2017 needed a defensive revamp.
Summer 2025 needs a midfield revamp.

Tbh I initially mentioned I don't really want to argue with those who want him out. He's going nowhere and I'll be happy to revisit these comments in 12 months times.

 

[Dazzle84]

He brought Echeverri on because there was no one else, Grealish wouldn’t have made a slight bit of difference and everyone else was more defensive, personally I’d have kept Marmoush on and took Akanji off we didn’t need 4 defenders at the time.

Well he picked that bench.

Also, and this might seem radical, but why not switch the wingers for 10 mins? Savinho had a decent run of form on the left earlier in the season and Doku would have terrified Mitchell, who was shaky

There's no ideas or innovation anymore. It's stale.