26 | Savinho - 2024/25

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Not sure how you can say Doku looks out of his depth against Premier League opposition. When he can absolutely skin pretty much any fullback in the league. Yes, he needs a better final ball but it’s not the opposition holding him back.

As for Savinho time will tell but i think he’s far too talented not to come good. First season starting at 20 in a tougher league. Plenty of players need time to adapt.
Wingers stats are based on assists and goals. Not how many players they skin every week.

Just over 80 games for Doku. With 13 goals and 20 assists.

Sav 28 games. 1 goal and 8 assists.

Pointless skinning defenders if you can't have an end product.

Would be akin to pulling birds every week and never getting a shag.
 
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Wingers stats are based on assists and goals. Not how many players they skin every week.

Just over 80 games for Doku. With 13 goals and 20 assists.

Sav 28 games. 1 goal and 8 assists.

Pointless skinning defenders if you can't have an end product.

Would be akin to pulling birds every week and never getting a shag.
If wingers are based on goals and assists then Grealish must be the worst winger in the league
 
If wingers are based on goals and assists then Grealish must be the worst winger in the league
Nope he had 4 good months in 3 years or whatever and helped us win the triple. Also he did what he was supposed to do. Drawing fouls. Also he helped retaining the ball. He was a new art of winger „ La pausa winger „ that’s a winger who has fanboys who find excuses for the horrible performance he has over the years
 
Guys weak as shit. IL take rodrygo over him every day of the week
Says it all. How many LW do you want at this club? Are we turning into real
Madrid with their fetish of LW? Rodrygo is a lost case that won’t join
 
Wingers stats are based on assists and goals. Not how many players they skin every week.

Just over 80 games for Doku. With 13 goals and 20 assists.

Sav 28 games. 1 goal and 8 assists.

Pointless skinning defenders if you can't have an end product.

Would be akin to pulling birds every week and never getting a shag.
Not a bad analogy but he’s clearly not out of his depth if he can do the hardest thing to do in football, dribbling past top defenders. If you can pull loads of fit birds in the top bars you’re not out of your depth being in there. Just needs to do the easier part and finish the job once he’s got them where he wants them!
 
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If wingers are based on goals and assists then Grealish must be the worst winger in the league
But grealish isn't a winger, and the insistance on him sticking out wide is one reason we don't see the best of him.

On savinhio, his issie usnhe isn't brave when faced with defenders dpubbling up or strong armong and if he has the chance to cross or shoot bottles it and passes back or sideways imho
 
He’s not good enough, goes missing too many times and his shooting is out of control, genuinely awful. I know he’s young but from what I’ve seen this season he needs to either go out on loan or be sold as he needs to improve fast.
 
He’s not good enough, goes missing too many times and his shooting is out of control, genuinely awful. I know he’s young but from what I’ve seen this season he needs to either go out on loan or be sold as he needs to improve fast.
Lol....now you wanna sell him

His first season I'm La Liga he bettered ALL 4 of Rodrygos for Madrid

Kids 21 and looked amazing on the left wing....8 assists in his first season here, bettered only by Salah (18), Murphy (12), Elanga (11), Rogers (10), Saka (10), Son (9) and the same as Eze, Gibbs-White, Palmer and Odegaard

And he did all that playing less minutes than all of those (Saka played the same), and is significantly younger than all of those

For me, Wingers are supposed to assist and when you have Erling up front the goals are gonna come from him, but I'm sure the goals will come he showed in La Liga he knows where the net is

Would probably help if we played to his strengths, he isn't mahrez he isn't gonna crack a 25 yarder cutting as its not in his game, so he's struggling to get great chances against a low 10 man block
 
Lol....now you wanna sell him

His first season I'm La Liga he bettered ALL 4 of Rodrygos for Madrid

Kids 21 and looked amazing on the left wing....8 assists in his first season here, bettered only by Salah (18), Murphy (12), Elanga (11), Rogers (10), Saka (10), Son (9) and the same as Eze, Gibbs-White, Palmer and Odegaard

And he did all that playing less minutes than all of those (Saka played the same), and is significantly younger than all of those

For me, Wingers are supposed to assist and when you have Erling up front the goals are gonna come from him, but I'm sure the goals will come he showed in La Liga he knows where the net is

Would probably help if we played to his strengths, he isn't mahrez he isn't gonna crack a 25 yarder cutting as its not in his game, so he's struggling to get great chances against a low 10 man block
I did say sell or loan. He started the season well and has just fallen off a cliff (as others have). He’s looks very ineffective going forward and doesn’t press and track back as well as some of our other wingers. He’s also missed some big chances. He lacks composure. I don’t think he’s a good fit for our tactics.
 
He’s not good enough, goes missing too many times and his shooting is out of control, genuinely awful. I know he’s young but from what I’ve seen this season he needs to either go out on loan or be sold as he needs to improve fast.
Can you tell me the better replacements out there? Or is that all talk again?
 
I did say sell or loan. He started the season well and has just fallen off a cliff (as others have). He’s looks very ineffective going forward and doesn’t press and track back as well as some of our other wingers. He’s also missed some big chances. He lacks composure. I don’t think he’s a good fit for our tactics.
Exactly, you said sell was an option

Do you want to sell Dias? His form has trailed off a cliff. Haaland has been terrible for a while? Shall we sell him? Shall we sell Foden who's been half the player even Savinho has been

No winger is a good fit for out tactics as our tactics completely stifles natural Wingers

That's on Pep to figure out, you want a winge with G/A then we need a new style

He's had one season...thinking about selling him is, imo, pathetic
 
Exactly, you said sell was an option

Do you want to sell Dias? His form has trailed off a cliff. Haaland has been terrible for a while? Shall we sell him? Shall we sell Foden who's been half the player even Savinho has been

No winger is a good fit for out tactics as our tactics completely stifles natural Wingers

That's on Pep to figure out, you want a winge with G/A then we need a new style

He's had one season...thinking about selling him is, imo, pathetic

It’s surprising so many people cannot see this. When one or two players are out of form then you can blame the individuals. However, when the stats of all of our wide players are dreadful, you blame the system.

The run of form between October and January badly scarred Pep. We looked like conceding with every counter attack and he rightly prioritised stopping this. This meant overemphasising possession, slowing down our play and being overly cautious. Whilst it worked, it has completely nullified our wingers.

The biggest beneficiaries of adding pace, energy and mobility to the side next season will be our wingers and Haaland. Add to the fact it will be Savinho’s second season with us, he will go on and surprise a lot of people next season.
 
Nico Williams for one.
Savinho did better in La Liga than Nico willlams who gets like triple his salary ever did. Also Nico is another LW and we have enough of them. Savinho is luckily left footed and can easily play as RW. Any winger would be shit for us due to our 4 CB system and slow build up
 
I think we need to give him more time personally, he’s only 21, next season he won’t be playing as frequently and I think if we play more expansively we’ll get the best out of him.

This penning teams and passing it sideways is doing none of our forwards any favours.
 
Just saw on tv that Savinho has given the second most PL goal assists to an individual scorer( Haaland), one behind Jacob Murphy to Isaak.
 
Exactly, you said sell was an option

Do you want to sell Dias? His form has trailed off a cliff. Haaland has been terrible for a while? Shall we sell him? Shall we sell Foden who's been half the player even Savinho has been

No winger is a good fit for out tactics as our tactics completely stifles natural Wingers

That's on Pep to figure out, you want a winge with G/A then we need a new style

He's had one season...thinking about selling him is, imo, pathetic
Dias has been the weak link in defence for a long time. His passing is slow and erratic. Yes please do

Haaland is not a good fit for our team. It is great watching us play without him. We meed another type of striker. Or we need to change tactics completely.

GK: replace if they want to leave

Defense we should keep ake, gvardiol, khush, reis, nunes, akanjii, lewis

Midfield we should keep gundo, nicox2, godri

Attackers Doku, savinho, McAtee, foden and Omar

We will keep of course keep dias and erling. We will sell McAtee but this what we should do to get back to old pass and move quicklt city.
 
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