Incident at Liverpool Title Parade May 26th

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Looks awful. No point in speculating about the reason or cause. Police should be all over this with the driver arrested, witnesses and videos. Hopefully those injured make a full recovery.
 
NZBM said:
Solution?? Maybe not move and nudge people with your car?? Wait out till the crowd disperse then safely move your car when people are totally out of the way? Look anymore i say about this il be called a dipper. So, you justify this with your sinister beliefs, all I'm saying is if this happened to us you wouldn't be justifying this.
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If someone was looking to get travelling quickly after that parade you wouldn’t park your car that close to the centre of where it all was. Water street more or less comes out onto The Strand facing the Liver Building. Does this guy live round there or managed to park his car in his works office parking as it’s the only reason I can think of as to why he was able to get his car into a street closed off to traffic.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing but don’t get in your car in an area where there’s thousands of people dispersing, be patient and wait for it to clear. Every trophy parade I’ve been to in Manchester I’ve always used public transport as it’s going to take forever leaving the City centre in a car.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
I’m making the point that if I was sick enough I could easily get in a car and plough into a crowd of people at a Xmas market or pretty much most places with crowds of people - we probably live in a world with the highest security ever but car attacks on crowds of people are on the rise in recent years.
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Can you list all the terrorist attacks on Christmas markets in the UK over the last decade when vehicles have been deployed, given how straightforward you seem to think it is to carry out.
 
NZBM said:
This thread started with alot of empathy, now it's slowly being filled with alot shit. But I have to be careful here, if I don't say the dippers are murderous scums, il be called a dipper myself.
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I don't think anybody has not got empathy with the innocent people that have recklessly been mowed down. Nobody has said the driver took the right course of action and are appalled at what he has done. He will face the consequences.

The skinny rat punching the car, the guy with the backpack on and the individual that put through the rear window also need finding. The very least they should be charged with is criminal damage for their part in the escalation. Anybody driving that car would have 100% been shitting themselves, fortunately 99.99% of them wouldn't have reacted the way he did.

Let's hope those injured don't suffer from any life changing injuries.
 
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bert38 said:
it is possible that closures were being removed as the parade was winding down-but all of this will be subject to an extensive review due to the events that followed.
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No way should there wave been a relaxation on restrictions in the vicinity with that number of people still on the street. Absolute madness to suggest otherwise.
 
Eds said:
Just seen this video

Was the road open to cars and people were just blocking the way? Looks like a few people didn't like the fact a car was there and started booting / punching the car. Car driver probably panicked and when his back window was put in possibly feared for his safety. Looked a feral mob and why the guy with the rucksack chased the car and further inflamed the situation is anyone's guess. There should be a few more arrested although I suspect it won't happen. Looks like an unfortunate situation that got out of hand.
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This may well be the case, but why he veered off to the side into the crowd is really confusing. That looks like an intentional act at that point.
 
carlosthejackal said:
Agree, smashing road going vehicles up seems to be a speciality for certain groups
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Shameful post.
The cunts who did that to the coach we’re just that - cunts.

Put that car in any crowd and that reaction would have been the same, by that I mean people hitting the car through anger. That isn’t a Liverpool thing, it’s a human reaction.
 
Edghill OG said:
I don't think anybody has not got empathy with the innocent people that have recklessly been moved down. Nobody has said the driver took the right course of action and are appalled at what he has done. He will face the consequences.

The skinny rat punching the car, the guy with the backpack on and the individual that put through the rear window also need finding. The very least they should be charged with is criminal damage for their part in the escalation. Anybody driving that car would have 100 % been shitting themselves, fortunately 99.99 percent of them wouldn't have reacted the way he did.

Lets hope those injured don't have any life changing injuries.
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Sadly it's a predictable reaction to threat . Once adrenalin floods the system it's freeze , fight or flight . We can all see what adrenaline did to this driver . Thinking doesn't come into it as adrenalin shuts logic off . All of us like to think we know how we'd react hypothetically and I expect the driver thought he was being rational until that potent hormone kicked in . We will probably never know if he was in fight or flight mode when he put his foot down . An absolute tragedy . Let's hope those injured make a speedy and full recovery and those who witnessed it are helped to process what that experienced . Life-changing for so many .
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Can you list all the terrorist attacks on Christmas markets in the UK over the last decade when vehicles have been deployed, given how straightforward you seem to think it is to carry out.
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Well fortunately with the lack of incidents like this in the UK over the last decade, it would suggest the amount of people prepared to do something like this as an act of terror is miniscule, but as @BlueHammer85 suggests, if you want to get in a car and do something like that, you could easily find a point where there are a lack of bollards or obstructions to prevent it.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Shameful post.
The cunts who did that to the coach we’re just that - cunts.

Put that car in any crowd and that reaction would have been the same, by that I mean people hitting the car through anger. That isn’t a Liverpool thing, it’s a human reaction.
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Is it? If I was worried by how a driver was driving, in a large group of people. The last thing I would do is provoke them further and kick fuck out of their car. The guy in the bag has blood on his hands
 
Edghill OG said:
The skinny rat punching the car, the guy with the backpack on and the individual that put through the rear window also need finding. The very least they should be charged with is criminal damage for their part in the escalation. Anybody driving that car would have 100 % been shitting themselves, fortunately 99.99 percent of them wouldn't have reacted the way he did.
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It’s a massive stretch but there is an offence of criminal damage being reckless as to endanger life, which carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.

Could it be argued that banging a car like that, in that scenario, could seriously risk a reaction founded in panic on behalf of the driver when there are hundreds of people at risk from an adverse response.

The driver’s reaction is certainly not an inconceivable outcome, but whether it amounts to recklessness, rather than mere carelessness, is unlikely.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Given the huge numbers attending that might not have been feasible.
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I think it would, there would just end up being less people.

When City do it it's shorter and in the City centre. People have to rush from work to get there. Some people would decide they couldn't manage it, or too much effort.

Liverpool's is more like a tour of Liverpool and lots of people can more or less just walk 5 minutes from their house, or stand outside their front door even. It's one of the reasons they're able to claim that so many attended - they make it easier to attend.

Obviously there are drawbacks to that approach also.
 
smevchenko said:
as @BlueHammer85 suggests, if you want to get in a car and do something like that, you could easily find a point where there are a lack of bollards or obstructions to prevent it.
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That isn’t correct. You simply cannot get a motor vehicle into the core areas of any well planned and managed Christmas market. That might not be the case with peripheral areas where there are still pedestrians in large numbers but Water Street could not be described at peripheral in the context of this parade.
 
Horrible accident.

Question for Merseyside police if the car was technically allowed to be there, all the people damaging the car have some serious questions to answer about their roles, and then the driver himself has obviously lost it and will certainly and rightly do time for it.
 
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