Incident at Liverpool Title Parade May 26th

[blue b4 the moon]

Surely banning them from Stamford Bridge would be a better punishment?

Making them attend the swamp would be the ultimate punishment.

 

[BlueHammer85]

You mean like our coach, crawling at 2 mph smashed to fuck. Or our supporters coaches getting smashed to fuck the day we impeccably observed the Hillsborough 25 year anniversary. Neither of those involved reckless driving. So basically you are (a) speculating and (b) incorrect in your assumption that liverpool fans only attack reckless and impatient drivers

No, nothing like the coach attack.

few of those clearly felt that particular car and driver was endangering others , hence no other cars like the one in front are being hit.

 

[RiversideBlue]

No, nothing like the coach attack.

few of those clearly felt that particular car and driver was endangering others , hence no other cars like the one in front are being hit.

The fact that Liverpool fans were able to attack a team coach, in full view of the police, and noone be arrested at the time, or after an investigation, didn't exactly send out a strong signal that this sort of behaviour was unacceptable and justice would prevail. It may not have prevented yesterday but it was an awful signal to send out.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

I agree it’s not crass to draw comparisons, although the two scenarios are not identical.

If people are going to try and damage a moving vehicle with objects then there are avoidable consequences that can flow from that. Ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

I have sympathy for any innocent people caught up in it who weren't part of the mob.

However if you decide to play a stupid game, and you end up winning a stupid prize then, well, that's on you...

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

The word you’re looking for is corrupt.

Perhaps infiltrated with criminal affiliates?

 

[Gray]

At the very least the fans identified as attacking the car should receive life time bans from Anfield / football.

But the police will say they have no clear footage of the attackers.

 

[Judge Roughneck]

I wish I'd found this thread a day before the parade, then I could have recorded my correct prediction that something would happen that would negatively overshadow their parade.
And I was right.....once again.

 

[TinFoilHat]

PiGMOL have awarded a pre kick off penalty to Liverpool at their first PL fixture after watching it on VAR.

 

[RiversideBlue]

Making them attend the swamp would be the ultimate punishment.

I dunno. It would have been great to have had a season ticket in the away end this year

 

[TinFoilHat]

I wish I'd found this thread a day before the parade, then I could have recorded my correct prediction that something would happen that would negatively overshadow their parade.
And I was right.....once again.

That's what fucked my head up about it all. Of all the places it could occur, and the press sensationalising it to the max right down to to the lonely Liverpool FC flag flying above scene.

It's something that may or may not have been prevented. I must admit I'm struggling with my subconscious prejudice of scousers in the aftermath as I witnessed both the humanity and feral attitudes last night at Lime Street.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

An awful, terrible, tragedy, however the coverage, commentary and narcissistic issuing of statements (by some), is getting somewhat ridiculous.

 

[danielwood5]

I hate to say it but it looks preventable.

Liverpool have an amazing and large fanbase, who came from all over the world to celebrate. We may call them but they do have some great, passionate fans.

Ones who want to sing, cheer, enjoy the day with their kids etc. and why not (we’ve done it enough time and all my Liverpool fan friends who went, I messaged all saying hope you have a great day).

They also have an element who are absolute scum from fake tickets to throwing pint pots etc. we know and sometimes in focusing on them we forget that it is not the norm (I have seen City fans who are knobheads too, but for volume it’s hard to find another club to compare).6

There was issues after they last won the league and whilst I don’t like to say it, I did say there would be trouble yesterday, I was thinking criminal damage, fighting with police (fireworks at the Liver building etc.).

I don’t like to use the word as it is used as an insult to Liverpool fans but they are genuine victims yesterday and it’s lucky we’re not seeing faces of kids and adults today who have lost their life (it looked and sounded that way).

May still be life changing injuries for some including children, so still an awful situation.

The issue I have and maybe the wrong place and time to speak it, is the decent fans protect the scum fans and refuse to blame them. Whether this is ingrained due to the injustice of Hillsborough or because other fans use it against them. It has lead to a behaviour amongst that club where certain behaviour seems to be tolerated.

I am not saying it caused yesterday and only the driver really knows what happens, but it doesn’t look like he was there to inflict maximum damage, it looks like an escalation from an incident.

If this is the case I hope their fans turn on their own who contributed and don’t protect them, as they do have a fantastic fan base and if they lost that element, they would be the envy of many clubs.

The trouble is Liverpool don't have an amazing fan base, they have exactly the same fan base as every other club in the world; some good fans, some noisy fans, some quiet fans, some old fans, some young fans, some fans from the local area and some from further afield.
What they do have though is a much, much larger contingency of knob heads following them than other fan bases, in large part due to the way they refused to take any responsibility for Heysel and the way the club dodged any and all allegations for their fans involvement.
This lack of accountability or remorse from the club then attracts the type of people who think that bricking opposition coaches, jibbing in to games to the point they're overcrowded and fans wirh tickets are locked out (Istanbul, Paris, etc), spitting at opposition managers, throwing pint pots full of coins into random crowds, etc, etc, ad nauseum is part of what it means to be a 'real' Liverpool fan. The fact that all these incidents are either enabled, covered up, minimised or dismissed by the club, the Merseyside Police and the media attracts the kind of people who enjoy doing this shit with impunity. At any other ground in the country would a fan spitting and throwing things at opposition managers be escorted to another part of the ground? Not a chance, they'd be rightly banned from the stadium.
Every club has its share of knobheads, we've got plenty of coked up fuckwits following us and plenty of people have jibbed in to games before but it isn't on a scale where it's a defining characteristic of the support of the club, or any other club in fact, as that kind of behaviour is either kept quiet so it's in small numbers like jibbing in or violent fans get removed and banned thus squashing this behaviour before it starts.
The problem Liverpool have is they need the club and the media to start calling out this behaviour but they're all so terrified if being accused of using the H word that they won't do it and so the behaviour continues attracting more fuckwits which makes the behaviour worse which then attracts more fuckwits continuing rhe whole sorry cycle.
What happened in Liverpool yesterday could quite literally have happened anywhere though but if the incident is as it appears, caused by alcohol, drugs and violence, then it was always more likely to happen at a Liverpool event due to the nature of the people they attract and the way they're taught to be 'real' Liverpool fans. The actual normal, nice people who follow them are powerless to change this though, it has to come from the club, the police and the media saying enough's enough.

 

[SouthStandStander]

The trouble is Liverpool don't have an amazing fan base, they have exactly the same fan base as every other club in the world; some good fans, some noisy fans, some quiet fans, some old fans, some young fans, some fans from the local area and some from further afield.
What they do have though is a much, much larger contingency of knob heads following them than other fan bases, in large part due to the way they refused to take any responsibility for Heysel and the way the club dodged any and all allegations for their fans involvement.
This lack of accountability or remorse from the club then attracts the type of people who think that bricking opposition coaches, jibbing in to games to the point they're overcrowded and fans wirh tickets are locked out (Istanbul, Paris, etc), spitting at opposition managers, throwing pint pots full of coins into random crowds, etc, etc, ad nauseum is part of what it means to be a 'real' Liverpool fan. The fact that all these incidents are either enabled, covered up, minimised or dismissed by the club, the Merseyside Police and the media attracts the kind of people who enjoy doing this shit with impunity. At any other ground in the country would a fan spitting and throwing things at opposition managers be escorted to another part of the ground? Not a chance, they'd be rightly banned from the stadium.
Every club has its share of knobheads, we've got plenty of coked up fuckwits following us and plenty of people have jibbed in to games before but it isn't on a scale where it's a defining characteristic of the support of the club, or any other club in fact, as that kind of behaviour is either kept quiet so it's in small numbers like jibbing in or violent fans get removed and banned thus squashing this behaviour before it starts.
The problem Liverpool have is they need the club and the media to start calling out this behaviour but they're all so terrified if being accused of using the H word that they won't do it and so the behaviour continues attracting more fuckwits which makes the behaviour worse which then attracts more fuckwits continuing rhe whole sorry cycle.
What happened in Liverpool yesterday could quite literally have happened anywhere though but if the incident is as it appears, caused by alcohol, drugs and violence, then it was always more likely to happen at a Liverpool event due to the nature of the people they attract and the way they're taught to be 'real' Liverpool fans. The actual normal, nice people who follow them are powerless to change this though, it has to come from the club, the police and the media saying enough's enough.

Nailed it

 

[The Northern Baptist]

Whether we like it or not, unfortunately the facts are that once again we are having to discuss the behaviour of Liverpool fans and their involvement in yet another tragic incident at a football related event.

 

[BringBackSwales]

No, nothing like the coach attack.

few of those clearly felt that particular car and driver was endangering others , hence no other cars like the one in front are being hit.

You never accept anything do you? You said the driver must have been reckless because the behaviour of the mob. I said (a) that’s speculation and (b) our team coach and fans coaches were smashed up by the fanbase and weren’t being reckless. So you were wrong, you should accept your wrong, but you won’t because you’re a stupid tit. I can’t help that

Edit - and actually you’ve never posted anything half sensible, including your shite about Southgate, so I’m doing what I should have done ages ago and blocking you, you crashing bore

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

However if you decide to play a stupid game, and you end up winning a stupid prize then, well, that's on you...

Are you talking about the Full Members Cup?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I wish I'd found this thread a day before the parade, then I could have recorded my correct prediction that something would happen that would negatively overshadow their parade.
And I was right.....once again.

I think you’d have struggled to find it the day before the parade mate!

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Those knobheads kicking and throwing things at the idiot's car, are culpable too imo.
But - doubt they'll be held so. Perhaps Merseyside's finest might not see them on the footage.

 

[RiversideBlue]

The trouble is Liverpool don't have an amazing fan base, they have exactly the same fan base as every other club in the world; some good fans, some noisy fans, some quiet fans, some old fans, some young fans, some fans from the local area and some from further afield.
What they do have though is a much, much larger contingency of knob heads following them than other fan bases, in large part due to the way they refused to take any responsibility for Heysel and the way the club dodged any and all allegations for their fans involvement.
This lack of accountability or remorse from the club then attracts the type of people who think that bricking opposition coaches, jibbing in to games to the point they're overcrowded and fans wirh tickets are locked out (Istanbul, Paris, etc), spitting at opposition managers, throwing pint pots full of coins into random crowds, etc, etc, ad nauseum is part of what it means to be a 'real' Liverpool fan. The fact that all these incidents are either enabled, covered up, minimised or dismissed by the club, the Merseyside Police and the media attracts the kind of people who enjoy doing this shit with impunity. At any other ground in the country would a fan spitting and throwing things at opposition managers be escorted to another part of the ground? Not a chance, they'd be rightly banned from the stadium.
Every club has its share of knobheads, we've got plenty of coked up fuckwits following us and plenty of people have jibbed in to games before but it isn't on a scale where it's a defining characteristic of the support of the club, or any other club in fact, as that kind of behaviour is either kept quiet so it's in small numbers like jibbing in or violent fans get removed and banned thus squashing this behaviour before it starts.
The problem Liverpool have is they need the club and the media to start calling out this behaviour but they're all so terrified if being accused of using the H word that they won't do it and so the behaviour continues attracting more fuckwits which makes the behaviour worse which then attracts more fuckwits continuing rhe whole sorry cycle.
What happened in Liverpool yesterday could quite literally have happened anywhere though but if the incident is as it appears, caused by alcohol, drugs and violence, then it was always more likely to happen at a Liverpool event due to the nature of the people they attract and the way they're taught to be 'real' Liverpool fans. The actual normal, nice people who follow them are powerless to change this though, it has to come from the club, the police and the media saying enough's enough.

Thanks for expressing so eloquently what most of us were thinking but were probably too scared to say.

 

[C90]

Was it D Ferguson (53)? His book signing for today was postponed.