Incident at Liverpool Title Parade May 26th

[bert38]

just out of curiosity, with the terminology used could it be Medical drugs rather than illegal? just seemed an odd term "Driving while unfit through drugs"

My understanding is it can be both-police nowadays carry kits that can detect the use of cannabis or cocaine-but once in custody where suspected it is usual for blood to be taken for analysis and an impairment test conducted -by health care professional embedded in custody.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, reckless and dangerous driving and driving whilst high on drugs.

****.

53 and drugged up what a wanker

 

[bert38]

Of these, 11 remain in hospital. All are in a stable condition and appear to be recovering well, she says.

The above update is the most important and welcoming part of the press conference statements. I'm sure most people who saw the images initially would have likely thought a fatalities statement would have followed shortly.

With regards the driver.

I'm no legal eagle... Police confirmed both a charge for driving whilst under influence of drugs, [or above the prescribed limit] and an attempted murder charge. Does the drugs charge, [in general], make the prosecution of the attempted murder charge tougher, easier or does it not make any difference?

From what I believe the police need to 'prove' that the drivers actions could have resulted in death and in addition 'prove' an intention to kill.Does the failed drugs test enable the defence to point to this for his lack of control rather thana
'premeditated' action of someone not under the influence? Obviously the police in this actual case may have other undisclosed evidence to assist in the prosecution.

However, hypothetically I would be interested in views of the legally informed people on the forum?

It will be for the cps to decide on the charges when presented with the evidence by the police-and ultimately for a court to decide-but yes the mens rea (guilty mind) will need to be proven for attempted murder.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

53 and drugged up what a wanker

I’m not much older. I drink either in The Roebuck Alkrington or The Fairway in new moston. It’s rife, even among folk my age. Just openly going into the loo to do a line every hour. Never seen the point in it, although you’d forgive the youngsters because, well, they’re young and dumb.

 

[kippax_blueboy]

53 and drugged up what a wanker

Absolute saddo

 

[Tolmie scores]

Problem now is after any incident this will be the expected level of information release.

when people realise , through release statements that the vast majority of criminals in this country (including all the worst types, wife beaters, rapists, paedophiles etc.) are actually white... then it may help and shut the dick'eds up like 'Tommy 'Stephen Christopher Yaxley- Lennon' Robinson up! They thrive on this misconception that white people don't commit crimes!

 

[Silva2021]

Absolute saddo

Even sadder now

 

[Tolmie scores]

I’m not much older. I drink either in The Roebuck Alkrington or The Fairway in new moston. It’s rife, even among folk my age. Just openly going into the loo to do a line every hour. Never seen the point in it, although you’d forgive the youngsters because, well, they’re young and dumb.

You can sort of understand drugs back in the day for a huge night in Croatia, Ibiza or somewhere exotic...but the snug in the Fairway FFS! what a waste of money! Not knocking the boozer, i'm knocking 50 + yr old wannabes propping up the bar of a standard local boozer!

 

[cleavers]

just out of curiosity, with the terminology used could it be Medical drugs rather than illegal? just seemed an odd term "Driving while unfit through drugs"

Yes I thought that, so some are "assuming" again.

 

[Resurrection Joe...]

I’m not much older. I drink either in The Roebuck Alkrington or The Fairway in new moston. It’s rife, even among folk my age. Just openly going into the loo to do a line every hour. Never seen the point in it, although you’d forgive the youngsters because, well, they’re young and dumb.

I can confirm that the ageing muppettry further down the Rd in Blackley are also bang at it.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

The only person to blame here is the driver, who it looks like, was off his tits.

He must have been smashed to follow an ambulance into an area full of people and in the the direction of loads of coppers.

There is absolutely no chance on this planet, that heading in the direction he did, was the quickest way to his house.

He's lucky that he's not killed himself or anyone else. He's also lucky he's not been lynched.

 

[mattcity5]

just out of curiosity, with the terminology used could it be Medical drugs rather than illegal? just seemed an odd term "Driving while unfit through drugs"

I would expect that if it were prescribed medical drugs that caused an issue, proving "attempted murder" would be extremely difficult? Might be wrong of course.

You're right though, the terminology seems unusual - especially when throughout this incident the police have been very careful about how statements etc have been worded.

 

[Tolmie scores]

The only person to blame here is the driver, who it looks like, was off his tits.

He must have been smashed to follow an ambulance into an area full of people and in the the direction of loads of coppers.

There is absolutely no chance on this planet, that heading in the direction he did, was the quickest way to his house.

He's lucky that he's not killed himself or anyone else. He's also lucky he's not been lynched.

Have to be careful here though, didn't that bin driver in Glasgow get accused of being of his head, and it ended up sadly that he had a history of blackouts and dizzy spells...just saying

 

[BlueHammer85]

He's lucky that he's not killed himself or anyone else. He's also lucky he's not been lynched.

This, people blaming Liverpool fans for his actions, id like to see if he would have made it out alive if that happened around Upton Park when we had our parade.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

I would expect that if it were prescribed medical drugs that caused an issue, proving "attempted murder" would be extremely difficult? Might be wrong of course.

You're right though, the terminology seems unusual - especially when throughout this incident the police have been very careful about how statements etc have been worded.

Not really. Whether they were legal or illegal drugs makes no difference.

It's probably worse for prescribed drugs as you are specifically told not to drive on them if they can cause impairment.

 

[shackattack]

A made a comment about how inept Merseyside Police are yesterday.

I have just watched a video on X of a Merseyside Police car left empty with it's doors open, a Liverpool fan gets in it, pretends to drive it, gets out of the Police car with a police officers hat on, walks around the Police car telling other Liverpool fans to get back, who are cheering, laughing, and filming him.

I tried to find the video on X again, but I couldn't find it.

 

[mattcity5]

Not really. Whether they were legal or illegal drugs makes no difference.

It's probably worse for prescribed drugs as you are specifically told not to drive on them if they can cause impairment.

Yeah it'd certainly be different if advised not to drive on them too.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Christ, that bellend laughing his tits off. Muppets

 

[Resurrection Joe...]

This, people blaming Liverpool fans for his actions, id like to see if he would have made it out alive if that happened around Upton Park when we had our parade.

yeah, 'The Twins woulda sorted em right out back then...

 

[levets]

He’ll get his collar felt too