Incident at Liverpool Title Parade May 26th

[RiversideBlue]

For those not watching the news. The BBC news suggesting that the police haven't exactly told us the full details yet of where this happened. The Beeb saying the incident (and the punching of the car) started happening on Dale Street and have footage od cars moving in both directions on that street. It then carries on to where Dale street becomes Water Street. This is where it got in where the barrier had been opened for an ambulance.

Suggest watching the report. Looked like the BBC are trying to piece it all together themselves.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

I’m not much older. I drink either in The Roebuck Alkrington or The Fairway in new moston. It’s rife, even among folk my age. Just openly going into the loo to do a line every hour. Never seen the point in it, although you’d forgive the youngsters because, well, they’re young and dumb.

I get it if you're out clubbing and what to stay out dancing till 4 or 5am but never fully understood it for a night down the local.

 

[Bournemouth Blue]

No matter who you support, this was a terrible incident where innocent children and adults were injured. Sympathies to those who were involved, except for the culprit

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

No matter who you support, this was a terrible incident where innocent children and adults were injured. Sympathies to those who were involved, except for the culprit

Well said mate.

 

[BlueHammer85]

There shouldn’t be any vehicles inside the perimeter before the parade starts several miles away. Any such vehicles should be removed from the area, or destroyed if necessary.

Take your point about wait and see, but these are simply factual statements about what should happen at an event like this. And at least one of them didn’t happen, whether the car was inside or outside the perimeter.

I just recently did the Brighton Marathon, there was some roads just separated by runners and cars with traffic cones, how easy for a car to get through and plough into hundreds of spectators?
It’s impossible to fully block off every single point for a car to get through if it wanted.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I just recently did the Brighton Marathon, there was some roads just separated by runners and cars with traffic cones, how easy for a car to get through and plough into hundreds of spectators?
It’s impossible to fully block off every single point for a car to get through if it wanted.

A marathon covers over 26 miles, this street was near to the epicentre of the denouement to the parade and an iconic street in the city. A more likely target for terrorists than other parts of the city and therefore requires protecting more assiduously.

I’d take the same view if the start or finish line were compromised at a marathon. The rest of the course is different.

So your analogy doesn’t work.

 

[Stephen Ireland's pants]

Let's see what comes out in the wash. For all we know, they might have had multiple blockage points on the road and this guy has parked his car up inside them, before they were installed and gone on a 2 day bender.

I saw this on a remembrance parade in Manchester. Car had been left overnight, so the rozzers smashed the window and threw a dog in . Surprised they didn't tow it hours before.

 

[Marklr]

From the BBC:

• He is a 53-year-old white British man - our correspondent earlier looked at why police had released these details so quickly
• He is from the West Derby area of Liverpool
• He has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, driving while unfit through drugs and dangerous driving offences

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

From the BBC:

• He is a 53-year-old white British man - our correspondent earlier looked at why police had released these details so quickly
• He is from the West Derby area of Liverpool
• He has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, driving while unfit through drugs and dangerous driving offences

Went to a house party after Cream in the ‘90s where a scouse girl I was talking to was complaining to me for some time about some posh **** up from London she met in the club who thought West Derby was Derby!

Edit: the party was in West Derby in case you wondered how it came up in the conversation in the club!

 

[Blue Mist]

Absolutely spot on. Sadly this is the case once again.
Watch that victim count clock up if someone mentions compo.

The vehicle will be insured so watch a claim from 350 people go in.

350 ! 1350 is nearer.

 

[bluemurray]

Horrible incident, thankfully nobody killed and all the injured making a recovery. Something went wrong somewhere, I dare say investigations will discover what, but it comes to something when footy fans can't celebrate a trophy without some idiot trying to kill them.

 

[ancoats]

There shouldn’t be any vehicles inside the perimeter before the parade starts several miles away. Any such vehicles should be removed from the area, or destroyed if necessary.

Take your point about wait and see, but these are simply factual statements about what should happen at an event like this. And at least one of them didn’t happen, whether the car was inside or outside the perimeter.

Anyway, great news about the direction of travel with the recoveries. Have plenty of Liverpool mates who I’m genuinely pleased for this season. And I’m glad they are all unharmed.

And now there’s a bit more detail I’m consciously trying to avoid passing comment on this guy in custody, so don’t take my silence on him the wrong way.

This should be a big wake-up call for the Police, councils, plus the security firms doing major events
Never let your guard down, even for a second, because that's all it takes. Scary stuff, People and Families were going to celebrate their club winning the title and shit like this happens, Many people are injured, and some are in a bad way

Look, policing an event's like yesterday, safety must come first, town centres must be closed down to traffic and not just for the event, days of clear notice of no parking or clapped or removed, then 2 hours after a clear up and checks, then open up slowly and allow public transport to get back on track.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The vehicle will be insured so watch a claim from 350 people go in.

350 ! 1350 is nearer.

I’d agree with you here mate. They would have mentioned (along with the other allegations) being interviewed for driving without insurance at the press conference if the car wasn’t insured.

Doesn’t materially reduce criminal liability, but at least the victims will be in a better place as a consequence.

 

[Blue Mist]

Yes, if it was managed correctly. Actually spoke to someone who is responsible for organising events like this at another English city today as I rang him for a catch up and he said to me that this was a catastrophic failing on behalf of the authorities given the location.

He listed a load of technical measures that need to be in place for an event like this including in relation to car parks, hard barriers and slightly more mobile barriers such as bin wagons in order to provide a mechanism to let authorised vehicles such as ambulances in and out with strict specific protocols around those particular vehicles in terms of keys etc…

He felt that if there were any fatalities then gross negligence manslaughter charges of public officials might be appropriate.

The car should simply not have been there at that time.

I wonder if the council took short cuts to save on costs ? It is a very long route. To put in place what you say should be there, means the costs are prohibitive.

 

[BigJoe#1]

I’d agree with you here mate. They would have mentioned (along with the other allegations) being interviewed for driving without insurance at the press conference if the car wasn’t insured.

Doesn’t materially reduce criminal liability, but at least the victims will be in a better place as a consequence.

Will motor insurance be valid if he was driving under the influence of drugs?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I wonder if the council took short cuts to save on costs ? It is a very long route. To put in place what you say should be there, means the costs are prohibitive.

The lack of investment in the public sector is ultimately significantly to blame for this. And we far are poorer as a society for it.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Will motor insurance be valid if he was driving under the influence of drugs?

It will be for third party claims. Otherwise the system would fall apart.

 

[BlueMonkey79]

Yes, if it was managed correctly. Actually spoke to someone who is responsible for organising events like this at another English city today as I rang him for a catch up and he said to me that this was a catastrophic failing on behalf of the authorities given the location.

He listed a load of technical measures that need to be in place for an event like this including in relation to car parks, hard barriers and slightly more mobile barriers such as bin wagons in order to provide a mechanism to let authorised vehicles such as ambulances in and out with strict specific protocols around those particular vehicles in terms of keys etc…

He felt that if there were any fatalities then gross negligence manslaughter charges of public officials might be appropriate.

The car should simply not have been there at that time.

I read on BBC news today that they opened a blockade for an ambulance to pass through.

The car followed it, took the opportunity or made a mistake.

He should have been stopped immediately if the stewards/police were doing their jobs.

 

[BlueHammer85]

The lack of investment in the public sector is ultimately significantly to blame for this. And we far are poorer as a society for it.

A drugged up driver is to blame for this, whilst ensuring security is as tight as can be sadly any **** can get in a car a plough into a crowd of people.

 

[bert38]

The lack of investment in the public sector is ultimately significantly to blame for this. And we far are poorer as a society for it.

Nailed. If people realised it’s only kids joining the police now because pay and conditions have been so badly eroded they’d be horrified.

As with all public services, we will all pay the cost.