PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Cobwebcat said:
If we are found to be innocent and certain elements in the press continue to liable us I wonder if City will ever take action?

If you could pick one person to go after who would it be?
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Makes you wonder if we ever will, or even if the verdict will have any leeway for misinterpretation hence giving what is laughingly called the press a slight chink to carry on.

It's not going to be a simple not guilty it will be an hour long verbal spiel citing numbers and paragraphs backed up by boxes and boxes of A4 explaining the decision.

They ain't stopping until you take their house car and marriages away from them, sue the fuckers until they bleed and cry.
 
Goats left knee said:
We would want to be completely cleared of any wrongdoing in relation to finances.
Any doubt and the jealous fans will cling to any excuse. They see us as a lance Armstrong, OJ Simpson type. Dirty oil club and at this stage it’s exhausting
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Completely cleared isn't enough m8.
We are always going to be labelled cheats by opposite fans (and who blames them, we would be exactly the same If it was them).

The media will still be able to imply we are guilty. They will NOT stop attacking our club no matter what. It makes money for them and the clubs that feed tthem Before this it was human rights or state funded accusations.

What will change though is when we have those conversations with opposition fans we will be able to tell them factually that we are not guilty and that our records, treble, repeats all stand. That kills them, it literally makes their blood boil. The conversation gets flipped around imo.

Our owners can then also let fly, and I hope they do, because one thing the footballing public and media love is drama and confrontation. Its the only way we will be heard, by throwing back all the shit that had been thrown at us. Beating them in the law courts is all well and good but the media twist even that. Throw some shit back City ffs. (Once we've hopefully won)
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Here is anyone wants a read of that clickbait tripe

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'A brilliant book covering this case and much more, Miguel Delaney’s award-winning States of Play'

Briliant book? I doubt that very much.

Award winning?

All I can find is this:

'A Telegraph, Times, Irish Independent and Irish Times Book of the Year and the winner of the 2025 Football Book of the Year'
 
Eds said:
Some fascinating stuff in here about fair market value and sponsorship but when it talks about fair market value isn't that up to the sponsor and club to agree a deal. If someone believes that by being our shirt sleeve sponsor is worth £50m to them who can say that it isn't fair. It's a little like a house that goes on the market and someone, in a sealed bid, offers 10% over the estate agency valuation. That buyer believes that their purchase is fair...

www.thesponsor.com

Revealed: Premier League Fair Market Sponsorship Values 2025 - The Sponsor

The annual Premier League Fair Market Sponsorship results show which teams and sponsors are getting a good deal and which are not.
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Nice to get an alternative view but I wouldn't place too much stock in their independent valuations. I'm also not sure how relevant some of their methodology is, to their calculations, looking at the explanation. You're also still expected to take them at their word, that they have no vested interests and have done it all fairly. That's one of the reasons why I don't think the PL should be able to use one single(American) data analytics company to decide every clubs FMV on their own. If I understood it right, after City's legal challenge against the PL, the IC said Neilsen will still handle everything and they don't see a problem with the: 'Like it or lump it, one evaluation is all you get' approach. What they said wasn't legal was not allowing clubs to see the datasets they used to arrive at said valuations. It just seems to me that they could lessen the likelyhood of legal challenges, if you have at least 2 or 3(or several in UEFA's case) firms vs just one.

How is Fair Market Value calculated?​


  1. Sponsorship Strength Assessment

Each club’s sponsorship strength is evaluated relative to its peers using a weighted scorecard based on the criteria most important to senior brand marketers. These criteria are identified via a survey of The Sponsor’s audience of marketing leaders and grouped into three categories:


  • Reputation – club history, cultural relevance, facilities
  • Audience – reach, frequency, demographics, engagement
  • Contribution – community impact, sustainability, fan initiatives

Brand reach was weighted most heavily, reflecting its importance to sponsors.


  1. Deal Benchmarking

These strength scores were then compared with publicly reported sponsorship values from trusted outlets such as The Athletic to identify market trends and anchor points.


  1. Regression Modelling

Using polynomial regression, a market curve was generated to map sponsorship strength to value, producing an FMV for each Premier League club’s front-of-shirt and sleeve assets.
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rice10 said:
I am a confirmed no nowt but I believe Stefan claimed the opposite previously that a large delay was more likely to signify that the most serious claims we had lost on. Basically what our friend magic hat is posting under this tweet. I obviously cannot find this now so happy to be shot down that Stefan never actually said this.
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Cobwebcat said:
If we are found to be innocent and certain elements in the press continue to liable us I wonder if City will ever take action?

If you could pick one person to go after who would it be?
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Harris
The other Harris
Spitty
Herbert
Camelgob
Goldbridge
Scholes
McKola
The entire Guardian sports desk
Evra
Delaney
Senor Teabag
That thumb headed Irish buffoon on the Anfield Agenda
Ogden
Stone
Rudd
Arsenal Fan TV (the whole lot of 'em)
Wallace
Burt
Schmeichel.....

The list is near endless and choosing just one, impossible. Old Testament retribution required. Ezekiel 25:17. We won't do it of course......
 
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BlueMoonRisin’ said:
Thing is, if we're exonerated of blame that **** and millions of other cunts will always castigate City of cheating.

Fuck the lot of the jealous haters.
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He won't, not if he likes his job. Look how Sky's arse collapsed when Tim Sherwood forgot he was thinking out loud. Millions of others still will, but they don't matter, and it will boil their piss to be laughed at and taunted..... when it finally doesn't matter.
Beaker said:
To be honest, I think bringing in analogies to Harold Shipman is a new low.
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Straight out of anfield, that slur.
 
Metalartin said:
Maybe this doesn't belong in this thread, but it started in PSG thread and now I'm torn between here and the media thread.

Anyway, firstly, well done to PSG. I was saying it as soon as they started to click towards the end of last year, if I remember right. They were simply playing the best football for me, that midfield had me watching with envy, with how fluid and dynamic it looked. You can hardly say they had an easy route either, it was well deserved, on football merit.

That's how everyone else is telling it too, judging from the reactions I've seen on MOTD and ESPN type shows. The reaction to PSG's success is overwhelmingly positive. Everyone is happy for them, the consensus being the club and fans deserve it, after falling short so many times. I've been hearing the phrase 'It's good for football' a lot too. Not heard any mention of sportswashing, state ownership, with a heavy focus on money though. I take it the sports press, is much the same?

I was thinking the same after Newcastle's league cup win. It was all overwhelmingly positive, they didn't all feel the need to mention any of the negatives much, if at all. I couldn't help but notice then and I'm seeing the same now.

I've nothing against PSG or Newcastle but I can't help but compare it to City's coverage, whenever we've had major success. It just makes me resent the UK sports media even more, the reasoning that they've expected us to swallow over the years. The 'it would be the same for any other club in the same boat' reasoning. Remember the treatment City got, immediately after they beat a team 6-0 in a cup final, for example? The articles that were realeased the next day, all having a similar slant.

Those clubs are quite literally state owned, with as bad or worse human rights issues for both states vs the UAE. I suppose PSG is the closest comparison, with the money spent and the length of time. As well as the FFP breaches(to an extent) but that has to be the nail in the coffin for 'nobody cares about City'?

So too, for any denial that the red cartel's media influence, is a big part of why City's coverage has been so negative(it's clearly a factor, as is the anti-arab sentiment). Any praise, always feels like it's given through gritted teeth and they always caveat it with the anti-city bingo phrases, without fail. PSG's CAS victory was in March 2019, around the same time as the football leaks and that really was a technicality, because the deal was simply inflated. From a quick search, their latest breach was in 2022, for overspending on wages. The sanction they got was the largest fine UEFA had handed out, apparently(up to 2023). I had to go and find that information myself, what are the chances that this would be necessary, if it were City in their shoes? edit: I see someone has mentioned PSG have breached 3 years in a row now(is that financial breaches?). Which I can't seem to track down from a simple search. That would definitely not be the case, if it applied to City. They'd have a full timeline plastered everywhere. Is there a time-line for PSG's breaches anywhere, out of interest?

All this goes to show, the red cartel and their media puppets, clearly saw City as a huge threat from early on in the ownership. It didn't help that all 3 red cartel clubs have been hurt directly in close title races, that went to the final day/final weeks, with City coming out ontop. However, I'm really starting to think, United turning to shit and us being their local rivals, going from strength to strength. Is perhaps the biggest reason no other club will ever get as big a target on their backs, as City have had over the years.

I'm not sure how but if and when City beat the charges, proving their innocence etc. I really hope the club find a way to fight this bullshit, it's gone on too long. I'm sure we're all sick of having to deal with all the weaponised-brainwashed muppets, who seem to think City and anyone conntected to City are fair game for anything.
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www.theguardian.com

PSG’s Champions League win was thrilling. It was still sportswashing | Jonathan Wilson

After years as a directionless collection of celebrity footballers, PSG are a true team now. But they still represent one of the sport’s darkest trends
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happy said:
Forgive me for derailing the thread slightly, but as a fellow lifelong Labour Party voter, and member, they really need to change their PR company. Situations like this, the winter fuel allowance, and lots of other ridiculously predictable own goals really do present 'poor optics' to the public and are easy meat for their opponents.
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Thinking PR matters over actual policies sums up everything wrong with British politics in one simple paragraph.
 
johnnytapia said:
www.theguardian.com

PSG’s Champions League win was thrilling. It was still sportswashing | Jonathan Wilson

After years as a directionless collection of celebrity footballers, PSG are a true team now. But they still represent one of the sport’s darkest trends
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Despotism v capitalism: PSG v Inter is clash of styles on and off pitch | Jonathan Liew

Champions League final features opposing tactical approaches and two radically different ownership models
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Damocles said:
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It's that bad, when you sit and think about it. It's about 5th. Our fanbase was called "vermin" by a professional; journalist at one of the world's most circulated newspapers, for telling them they were factually wrong when they were factually wrong.

I want to thank @johnny crossan for recording this back in 2010. I archived it at the time and I've never forgotten this. The context is that Mancini was in Italy at the time and the reports were false FYI. They have always despised us, look at the contempt from these failed no marks, none of which are still mainstream reporters.

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The hatred and resentment from those so called 'journalists' is shocking. Not only that, but history has demonstrated that they were incorrect on just about every point. I hope whoever the fuck they are, because I’ve no idea who any of them are, they get reminded of this appalling piece of TV on a regular basis and shudder in embarrassment.
 
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