Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Pelegrinni said:
During the same period of the Israeli/Arab 1948 war and the displacements that followed, there were similar displacements across the world. For example, we had the Pakistan and India mass displacement. Jews were displaced from many countries in the Middle East. Polish and German displacements also happened.
All these countries and peoples have moved on with their lives.

The Palestinians should make the best of the territory they have now in Gaza and the West Bank. Dreaming of going back to a land you left (willingly or forcefully) in 1948 is not going to happen. Anyone who pushes for this is not a friend of the Palestinians but is just using them to attack Israel.
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It's basically a Yes or No. Not the fuckin flannel you've just posted.

Should every Settler be removed from the land theve stolen in the West Bank?
 
The blue phantom said:
It's basically a Yes or No. Not the fuckin flannel you've just posted.

Should every Settler be removed from the land theve stolen in the West Bank?
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Whatever happens in the West Bank should be negotiated between the Jews and the Palestinian representatives.
If the Jews needs to give up land for peace, I'm pretty certain that they would do so.
The problem is whether they will get the peace in return.
Remember, Jew uprooted their citizens from Gaza in 2005.
So there is a precedent already established.
 
Before we invaded Iraq, we made the (false) case to the UN that Iraq was developing WMDs and every member more or less agreed that Iraq was doing this, but they disagreed on how to respond to what they thought Saddam was doing. In this case, our government says Iran is not developing nukes. This is a war to specifically advance the interests of Israel, and our government is too lazy to even bother to provide an explanation to the American people other than bible verses.

The Director of National Intelligence says that Iran is NOT DEVELOPING a nuclear weapon.
 
west didsblue said:
Tulsi Gabbard is allegedly a pro Russian stooge as is Trump.

Iran is an ally of Russia.

Can she be trusted?
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Allegedly. I know. I've seen the "proof". No, the entire American intelligence community is one big fat Russian stooge.
Gabbard was lying and not a single person leaked the truth to the media. Ok.

Trump, Netanyahoo, Mike Maccabee, Mike Pompeo uncle tom cobleigh and the bible believers on this thread with their 3,000 year old fairy tales can definitely be trusted though.
 
Username Required said:
Before we invaded Iraq, we made the (false) case to the UN that Iraq was developing WMDs and every member more or less agreed that Iraq was doing this, but they disagreed on how to respond to what they thought Saddam was doing. In this case, our government says Iran is not developing nukes. This is a war to specifically advance the interests of Israel, and our government is too lazy to even bother to provide an explanation to the American people other than bible verses.

The Director of National Intelligence says that Iran is NOT DEVELOPING a nuclear weapon.
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Do you actually believe what you’re writing —
that “Iran is not developing nuclear weapons”?
That’s not even the real question, because it’s clear to everyone that they are
More than that — they haven’t even tried to hide the fact that they’ve enriched enough for 10 bombs, and now the clock has started ticking in Israel.
Just a week ago, they still refused to meet with Trump.
But now the tables have turned, and they’re begging for negotiations.
An unhinged, sick 86-year-old leader, whose close advisors and inner circle have all died in the past five days, is now desperate to talk.
Only this time, it’s under a different set of rules — thanks to something that’s worked in the past week
(yes, we’re absorbing ballistic missile fire on civilians every few hours).
This insane regime is nearing its end, and the Iranian people are hoping for an American victory.
Are you really not up to date?
 
Username Required said:
Allegedly. I know. I've seen the "proof". No, the entire American intelligence community is one big fat Russian stooge.
Gabbard was lying and not a single person leaked the truth to the media. Ok.

Trump, Netanyahoo, Mike Maccabee, Mike Pompeo uncle tom cobleigh and the bible believers on this thread with their 3,000 year old fairy tales can definitely be trusted though.
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Ha its wild how they create a different bullshit angle for everything and so many turkeys just go along with it
 
tel aviv city said:
Do you actually believe what you’re writing —
that “Iran is not developing nuclear weapons”?
That’s not even the real question, because it’s clear to everyone that they are
More than that — they haven’t even tried to hide the fact that they’ve enriched enough for 10 bombs, and now the clock has started ticking in Israel.
Just a week ago, they still refused to meet with Trump.
But now the tables have turned, and they’re begging for negotiations.
An unhinged, sick 86-year-old leader, whose close advisors and inner circle have all died in the past five days, is now desperate to talk.
Only this time, it’s under a different set of rules — thanks to something that’s worked in the past week
(yes, we’re absorbing ballistic missile fire on civilians every few hours).
This insane regime is nearing its end, and the Iranian people are hoping for an American victory.
Are you really not up to date?
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How many kids has he killed lately? Is he wanted by the ICC for crimes against humanity?

Any sign of Israelis rising up against the monster Netanyahu?
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
How many kids has he killed lately? Is he wanted by the ICC for crimes against humanity?

Any sign of Israelis rising up against the monster Netanyahu?
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Yes, his head was quite sought after — including by half the population in Israel —
but now, after 5 days and an incredible, brilliant operation in Iran
he is currently being carried straight into what is perhaps the most successful Israeli operation since the country’s founding!
 
Postman Pep said:
Sick cunts

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It's incredible how people are quick to believe such stories even when there's little to no evidence.
I guess it helps to reinforce their entrenched position of Jew hatred.

Meanwhile, a careful consideration of the facts on ground will raise doubts about such incidents.

1) The IDF is actively working to bypass Hamas and deliver aids directly to the suffering people of Gaza. This action is in response to the accusation of famine and starvation despite the fact that loads of aid trucks are allowed into Gaza which are hijacked by Hamas.
2) The IDF is not directly involved but is overseeing the process while providing security cover to the American contractors who are doing the distribution.
3) The IDF do not have any incentive to shoot a 7 year old boy who is coming to collect food. None whatsoever.
4) Hamas, on the other hand, have every incentive to shoot at their people going to the distribution centres. The American/Israeli food distribution would undermine their authority in Gaza. In addition, every civilian deaths is valuable to them because it can be used to put more pressure on Israel as done by this op.
5) There was a drone footage released a week or two ago which showed Hamas fighters actively shooting at their own people who were going to collect food.
6) There were incidents where some Gazans were deviating from the approved routes and approaching the IDF. In such cases, warning shots were fired. If the people refuse to heed the warning shots, then they have themselves to blame.
7) For some people, it seems like no matter what Hamas does, it is anathema to criticise them. Hence, every of their inhuman acts are blamed on Israel.
 
Pelegrinni said:
It's incredible how people are quick to believe such stories even when there's little to no evidence.
I guess it helps to reinforce their entrenched position of Jew hatred.

Meanwhile, a careful consideration of the facts on ground will raise doubts about such incidents.

1) The IDF is actively working to bypass Hamas and deliver aids directly to the suffering people of Gaza. This action is in response to the accusation of famine and starvation despite the fact that loads of aid trucks are allowed into Gaza which are hijacked by Hamas.
2) The IDF is not directly involved but is overseeing the process while providing security cover to the American contractors who are doing the distribution.
3) The IDF do not have any incentive to shoot a 7 year old boy who is coming to collect food. None whatsoever.
4) Hamas, on the other hand, have every incentive to shoot at their people going to the distribution centres. The American/Israeli food distribution would undermine their authority in Gaza. In addition, every civilian deaths is valuable to them because it can be used to put more pressure on Israel as done by this op.
5) There was a drone footage released a week or two ago which showed Hamas fighters actively shooting at their own people who were going to collect food.
6) There were incidents where some Gazans were deviating from the approved routes and approaching the IDF. In such cases, warning shots were fired. If the people refuse to heed the warning shots, then they have themselves to blame.
7) For some people, it seems like no matter what Hamas does, it is anathema to criticise them. Hence, every of their inhuman acts are blamed on Israel.
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You are one evil boy.

Virtually every independent organisation including the UN has stated that the food distribution system is not fit for purpose. News media reporting that it is IDF tanks doing the killing.

Yet you somehow know better.
 
robbieh said:
You are one evil boy.

Virtually every independent organisation including the UN has stated that the food distribution system is not fit for purpose. News media reporting that it is IDF tanks doing the killing.

Yet you somehow know better.
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You’re the one who doesn’t know the facts,
because it’s easiest for you to tell the story of the “small and oppressed.
But you forgot about those inhuman terrorist
who murder their own people over a bag of flour
Hello? Wake up
Your information is completely wrong.
 
Pelegrinni said:
It's incredible how people are quick to believe such stories even when there's little to no evidence.
I guess it helps to reinforce their entrenched position of Jew hatred.

Meanwhile, a careful consideration of the facts on ground will raise doubts about such incidents.

1) The IDF is actively working to bypass Hamas and deliver aids directly to the suffering people of Gaza. This action is in response to the accusation of famine and starvation despite the fact that loads of aid trucks are allowed into Gaza which are hijacked by Hamas.
2) The IDF is not directly involved but is overseeing the process while providing security cover to the American contractors who are doing the distribution.
3) The IDF do not have any incentive to shoot a 7 year old boy who is coming to collect food. None whatsoever.
4) Hamas, on the other hand, have every incentive to shoot at their people going to the distribution centres. The American/Israeli food distribution would undermine their authority in Gaza. In addition, every civilian deaths is valuable to them because it can be used to put more pressure on Israel as done by this op.
5) There was a drone footage released a week or two ago which showed Hamas fighters actively shooting at their own people who were going to collect food.
6) There were incidents where some Gazans were deviating from the approved routes and approaching the IDF. In such cases, warning shots were fired. If the people refuse to heed the warning shots, then they have themselves to blame.
7) For some people, it seems like no matter what Hamas does, it is anathema to criticise them. Hence, every of their inhuman acts are blamed on Israel.
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"In an interview with FRANCE 24, US surgeon Mark Perlmutter claimed that Israeli snipers are deliberately targeting children in Gaza. Perlmutter said that while he was volunteering at the European hospital of Khan Younis in southern Gaza earlier this year, he "saw two children that were shot twice". He added: "No child gets shot twice by mistake."

www.france24.com

Tête à tête - US surgeon claims Israel targets Gaza children: 'No child gets shot twice by mistake'

In an interview with FRANCE 24, US surgeon Mark Perlmutter claimed that Israeli snipers are deliberately targeting children in Gaza. Perlmutter said that while he was volunteering at the European hospital…
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The rest of what you put is also naive at best and absolutely disgusting genocidal nonsense at worst
 
tel aviv city said:
Do you actually believe what you’re writing —
that “Iran is not developing nuclear weapons”?
That’s not even the real question, because it’s clear to everyone that they are
More than that — they haven’t even tried to hide the fact that they’ve enriched enough for 10 bombs, and now the clock has started ticking in Israel.
Just a week ago, they still refused to meet with Trump.
But now the tables have turned, and they’re begging for negotiations.
An unhinged, sick 86-year-old leader, whose close advisors and inner circle have all died in the past five days, is now desperate to talk.
Only this time, it’s under a different set of rules — thanks to something that’s worked in the past week
(yes, we’re absorbing ballistic missile fire on civilians every few hours).
This insane regime is nearing its end, and the Iranian people are hoping for an American victory.
Are you really not up to date?
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Right. So, the American DNI, picked by Donny Two Dolls, a profoundly ignorant man, was simply lying, or speaking with a reckless disregard for the truth, or is 100% ignorant of the facts. No one, not a soul, in the huge, global, sprawling American intelligence apparatus said one word. If she is simply wrong, then U.S. intel is not fit for purpose. If she lied about what the intel shows we have a disaster on our hands. Trump claims she is wrong - what is the source for Trump's intel that his DNI is in error? Israel? Laura Loomer?

Given the options - do I believe two of the world's most infamous liars - Trump and Netanyahoo - or Tulsi Gabbard?
 
Pelegrinni said:
It's incredible how people are quick to believe such stories even when there's little to no evidence.
I guess it helps to reinforce their entrenched position of Jew hatred.

Meanwhile, a careful consideration of the facts on ground will raise doubts about such incidents.

1) The IDF is actively working to bypass Hamas and deliver aids directly to the suffering people of Gaza. This action is in response to the accusation of famine and starvation despite the fact that loads of aid trucks are allowed into Gaza which are hijacked by Hamas.
2) The IDF is not directly involved but is overseeing the process while providing security cover to the American contractors who are doing the distribution.
3) The IDF do not have any incentive to shoot a 7 year old boy who is coming to collect food. None whatsoever.
4) Hamas, on the other hand, have every incentive to shoot at their people going to the distribution centres. The American/Israeli food distribution would undermine their authority in Gaza. In addition, every civilian deaths is valuable to them because it can be used to put more pressure on Israel as done by this op.
5) There was a drone footage released a week or two ago which showed Hamas fighters actively shooting at their own people who were going to collect food.
6) There were incidents where some Gazans were deviating from the approved routes and approaching the IDF. In such cases, warning shots were fired. If the people refuse to heed the warning shots, then they have themselves to blame.
7) For some people, it seems like no matter what Hamas does, it is anathema to criticise them. Hence, every of their inhuman acts are blamed on Israel.
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Firstly, it's being reported by Reuters. Which is probably the most robust, reliable news agency on the planet. Secondly, I'm inclined to believe they killed yet more innocent women and children as asserted in this article, because there have been hundreds more such cases in the last year alone; and that's before we look at the pictorial evidence of Gaza.

And as for Jew hatred comment. Fucking hell, give your head a wobble. I hate Hamas and Hezbollah, and everything they represent, does that make me an islamophobe? What I am, unreservedly, is an avowed hater of a country that is committing genocide. And a hater of it's shameless sympathisers.
 
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