PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[chesterbells]

The money being spent by the PL to fight this is reducing amounts going to its stakeholders in the Premier League. So I imagine this will be reducing the trickle down effect to The Football League. Didn’t Masters and Parry get their collars felt by a commons select committee quizzing them why money wasn’t going down the football pyramid from the PL?

Tbh, when they raised it, I just assumed those payments were fixed amounts, ring-fenced etc, and that it would only be monies with the PL that might be affected.

If so, it’s a reason why half the EPL supporters probably are unhappy with us, whilst the other half are (and should be) furious with the PL for bringing forth this whole charade in the first place. Needless to say, this was what I pointed out to these PNE lads.

 

[cheekybids]

No member of the UAE royalty, government, or any UAE-owned company has ever filed a libel case against a British newspaper — and our case is far from the worst.

Have they ever smashed the windows of reporters houses?

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

tbf i recogn a pigeon could take him

Don't tell him that, he'll want to fight it!

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

In the Special Theory of Relativity, Einstein determined that time is relative—in other words, the rate at which time passes depends on your frame of reference

He famously came up with that theory when he was sat in his office in the Zurich Patent Office on a miserable, wet Tuesday afternoon wondering why the weekend had gone so quickly while Monday and Tuesday morning seemed to last forever.

 

[Micky Blue]

So according to Stefan's substack we are not getting even the initial liability decision until 2026 and possibly until the end of the season? I was led to believe this was an imminent, few weeks left type deal

Ahh for fuck sake.
It never ends. I thought it might be before the start of the season.

The bastards PL must love this, Masters gets to stay in his job a little longer and the cloud over us is still there, with nobs like piss head and Ian Rush tribute act John Aldridge taking pot shots at us.

On the bright side least we get to see the new signings tomorrow.

 

[Father Paul]

Is it correct that payments received by EFL clubs from the PL in recent years are of diminished amounts because of the costs the PL have had to incur bringing this case?

If so, it wasn’t something of which I was aware, but talking to a couple of Preston supporters recently they seemed convinced it was.

That is a narrative worth developing. To me the football authorities have spent six years now searching for a smoking gun and found nothing. Clearly this is no longer, if it ever was, an issue of justice and fair play, but is now a fully fledged political witch-hunt. The phrase justice delayed is justice denied springs to mind.

 

[Blueboy73]

tbf, I’m not sure it was all of those 18 titles as they won a few before the Littlewood’s money landed in the ‘60s, but I completely take your point.

Their first few titles were bankrolled by their founder John Houlding who also gave them a free stadium.
The original sugar daddy club.

 

[TinFoilHat]

I remember, in the past when we were seeing records broken and amazing title runs, we had just won something major.... Out of the blue one of the main reporters suddenly asking about potential PL charges (this was maybe a year and a half before they dropped).

There wasn't a general feeling that charges would be brought, in fact we thought it was ridiculous that they would try the same thing as UEFA.. it wasn't at all in the horizon but there was this ONE reporter highlighting it.

It convinced me there was a media campaign bubbling and chipping away in the background. Some reporters had seemingly made this their campaign.

Someone somewhere is tapping up reporters against City.

It wasn't difficult to work out.

Allegations were made in the New York Times who at the time were part owned by FSG.

 

[foggy1974]

.............115
E=MC

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[chesterbells]

That is a narrative worth developing. To me the football authorities have spent six years now searching for a smoking gun and found nothing. Clearly this is no longer, if it ever was, an issue of justice and fair play, but is now a fully fledged political witch-hunt. The phrase justice delayed is justice denied springs to mind.

Shouldn’t the whole of the EFL be furious with the PL (and a few clubs within the PL let’s be honest)?
Anything to say Rick Parry?

 

[TinFoilHat]

Shouldn’t the whole of the EFL be furious with the PL (and a few clubs within the PL let’s be honest)?
Anything to say Rick Parry?

He's still a fully paid up Dipper, as well as their number one fan which trumps everything else.

 

[SilverFox2]

He's still a fully paid up Dipper as well as their number one fans which trumps everything else.

They've all been paid off in various ways to vote illegal stuff through at rule change meetings.

City don't give them anything.

I suppose as long as their share of legal costs is less than the PL donation they are happy.

 

[Uwe Already]

I think what old Albert was trying to say is this...If you are out and about, getting on with things, enjoying yourself then time passes more quickly than if you're just sat in front of a screen with your thumb up your arse.

you been looking through my windows again?

 

[Resurrection Joe...]

you been looking through my windows again?

not for a while, you need to wash those net curtains

 

[Bluebeemer]

If the charges had been proven, surely the PL wouldn't have waited more than a few minutes to issue City's guilt and points deduction. We are now months on and, seemingly, the decision has been gathering dust somewhere.
Perhaps the PL hope is that the dust will gather ever deeper; the fiasco gets forgotten as the months and years pass.
Governments use reviews lasting years to hide awkward 'stuff' behind.
Maybe the PL hope that the media will eventually get bored with it and move on to other stuff.
The ayatollahs fleeing Iran and buying out the Glazers would keep the media busy.

 

[Mid Wales blue]

I think what old Albert was trying to say is this...If you are out and about, getting on with things, enjoying yourself then time passes more quickly than if you're just sat in front of a screen with your thumb up your arse.

What if you’re sat in front of a screen showing porn, with a thumb up your arse and enjoying it, would time seem to move faster?

 

[JASR]

Yet another 'soft sign' to add to the pile, courtesy of the Caf

 

[JASR]

He doesn't say that. He said it's quite possible that the whole process of liability and any subsequent sanction hearing won't be completed until 2026. But if there's no liability, there's no sanction.

+ the process includes appeals at each stage (either by City, if charges proved, or PL, if charges unsubstantiated - though that's doubtful, the PL appealing).

As you and Stefan say, the only thing that will occur in the possibly near future, but might still be in 2026+, is whether the charges have been proved, or thrown out. Any sanction deciding and appeals are an entirely new timescale after that.

It's these distinctions and knowledge of the process, that highlight what utter crap 99% of the media/social media commentators covering this know. And is about the same amount for nonCity fans.

 

[hallsteve62]

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[KS55]

+ the process includes appeals at each stage (either by City, if charges proved, or PL, if charges unsubstantiated - though that's doubtful, the PL appealing).

As you and Stefan say, the only thing that will occur in the possibly near future, but might still be in 2026+, is whether the charges have been proved, or thrown out. Any sanction deciding and appeals are an entirely new timescale after that.

It's these distinctions and knowledge of the process, that highlight what utter crap 99% of the media/social media commentators covering this know. And is about the same amount for nonCity fans.

If the charges are unproven, the other clubs should urge the PL not to appeal, throwing good money after bad. Just take it on the chin, sack Masters and move on.