Season ticket holders non attenders numbers

Centurions said:
But you have to actually have something to protest about otherwise it'll just look like a Python sketch.

Since these regulations are new, nobody knows yet if the club will live up to their promises or not, call me a happy clapper if you wish, but I'll wait and see and trust the club for now.
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There’s something very concrete to protest about, a new unnecessary policy that stipulates you cannot renew your season ticket if you don’t personally attend ten games.
 
From the BBC.

Fans have been warned by the Premier League that fixtures could be moved at "relatively short notice" next season because of the number of teams playing in Europe.

A record nine top-flight clubs have qualified for Uefa competitions in the 2025-26 campaign.

The Premier League said there is an "increased likelihood" that games will be rescheduled if English teams reach the latter stages, and it suggested fans take this into consideration when planning their attendance at games.
 
Is there any details on which games City guarantee refunds if you list your seat on the ticket exchange? I can only find details on the 2024-2025 Season.
 
This is all so unnecessary. There is a perfectly good product - the flexi season ticket - that would be perfect for all those people who, for whatever reason, cannot attend a fair number of our matches. All it needed was the club to have marketed this properly without the £150 fine. By doing so, they've wrecked the reputation of their offerings to regular fans. Theyve started to make inroads into making it more attractive but have to regain the trust of the fans to do so and the fans need to let go some of the "all out to get us every time" approach to the club.

The club will swat away any legal challenge from the Tradeunion blues - they would easily persuade any court that it's part of their terms and conditions that the people they sell tickets at a block discounted rate do not then sell them on to other people and this is their way of protecting themselves. Its a bit embarrassing to be honest. We've all made the club realise that they need to be sensible with regards to stupid pricing of tickets and the lack of STs. There's now a pathway for new ST holders, there's a method where those that only can attend 10 matches can only pay for 10 matches and not 19 (a bit higher per match than full STs but less than single match tickets) and there's a sensible dialogue ongoing as to how the new North stand will work.

However, the club created this mistrust that the lady in the news article, some people on here, some of the 1894 and some of the Trade Union Blues seem to want to build on.

Its all so unnecessary...
 
Norbiton said:
There’s something very concrete to protest about, a new unnecessary policy that stipulates you cannot renew your season ticket if you don’t personally attend ten games.
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Then either attend 10+ games or ask for an exemption if you have a fair reason. City themselves say they'll see how things are panning out over the season and it seems to be a fluid system at the moment. Given the fact that fans are already

It just feels like a knee jerk reaction from some fans who don't like change.
 
stonerblue said:
The whole thing pisses me right off.
For most of my time supporting City i have, for one reason or another, not had a season ticket. I've lived abroad, worked Saturdays or couldn't afford it. These days i'm a fulltime carer so most night games are a no-no.
Never once have i thought it was Citys 'fault' i couldn't go.
The excuses that woman comes out with are just bollocks and TUblues, whoever the fuck they are, stirring up anger in the national press for all to see certainly don't speak for me.
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They might not speak for you, but they speak for a lot of people, including those less fortunate than some
 
Centurions said:
Then either attend 10+ games or ask for an exemption if you have a fair reason. City themselves say they'll see how things are panning out over the season and it seems to be a fluid system at the moment. Given the fact that fans are already

It just feels like a knee jerk reaction from some fans who don't like change.
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There’s nothing to like about this change from a supporter’s point of view. It contributes nothing to filling empty seats, won’t make season tickets available to those who haven’t got one but want one, unless there’s a further change in policy, distances long- standing supporters from the club at a time when they’re about to have several thousand further seats to fill, and if it’s intended to crack down on touting it’s a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
 
Norbiton said:
There’s nothing to like about this change from a supporter’s point of view. It contributes nothing to filling empty seats, won’t make season tickets available to those who haven’t got one but want one, unless there’s a further change in policy, distances long- standing supporters from the club at a time when they’re about to have several thousand further seats to fill, and if it’s intended to crack down on touting it’s a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
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The club are the biggest touts going
But bootlickers are gonna lick boots
 
Saddleworth2 said:
From the BBC.

Fans have been warned by the Premier League that fixtures could be moved at "relatively short notice" next season because of the number of teams playing in Europe.

A record nine top-flight clubs have qualified for Uefa competitions in the 2025-26 campaign.

The Premier League said there is an "increased likelihood" that games will be rescheduled if English teams reach the latter stages, and it suggested fans take this into consideration when planning their attendance at games.
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Eh? So taking into consideration the known knowns and the unknown knows then who the f*ck knows?
 
jockblue said:
This is all so unnecessary. There is a perfectly good product - the flexi season ticket - that would be perfect for all those people who, for whatever reason, cannot attend a fair number of our matches. All it needed was the club to have marketed this properly without the £150 fine. By doing so, they've wrecked the reputation of their offerings to regular fans. Theyve started to make inroads into making it more attractive but have to regain the trust of the fans to do so and the fans need to let go some of the "all out to get us every time" approach to the club.

The club will swat away any legal challenge from the Tradeunion blues - they would easily persuade any court that it's part of their terms and conditions that the people they sell tickets at a block discounted rate do not then sell them on to other people and this is their way of protecting themselves. Its a bit embarrassing to be honest. We've all made the club realise that they need to be sensible with regards to stupid pricing of tickets and the lack of STs. There's now a pathway for new ST holders, there's a method where those that only can attend 10 matches can only pay for 10 matches and not 19 (a bit higher per match than full STs but less than single match tickets) and there's a sensible dialogue ongoing as to how the new North stand will work.

However, the club created this mistrust that the lady in the news article, some people on here, some of the 1894 and some of the Trade Union Blues seem to want to build on.

Its all so unnecessary...
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It’s all been so last minute. When my son contacted them to explain his shift working and ask for some leniency, they considered his case, rang him and told him to swap to a flexible gold. And gave him 24 hours to reach a decision and find £150. To say he felt bamboozled is an understatement. He contact Alex at City Matters to update him, and was advised to refuse. They should give everyone a season to see whether flexi works better for them without some threat of taking their season ticket away.
 
mandubs said:
How the fuck do 1200 people not use their ST even once.
Seems very odd/unlikely
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So we have any ageing fanbase, ever heard of cancer, heart attack, strokes etc?

Plenty of reasons why some people may have missed a whole season, doesn't make them less of a fan.
 
mandubs said:
What to make of these numbers from City today.....reported by Simon Bajkowski of the M.E.N

- Over 5000 attended fewer than 10/19 games
- 3000 of those attended fewer than four
- 1200 of those attended NONE

How the fuck do 1200 people not use their ST even once.
Seems very odd/unlikely
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If that is true then City should contact those people.
 
Northerndave said:
So we have any ageing fanbase, ever heard of cancer, heart attack, strokes etc?

Plenty of reasons why some people may have missed a whole season, doesn't make them less of a fan.
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I'd be surprised if we have an ageing fanbase.

If the data is correct, what should the Ticket Office do?
 
Marvin. said:
I'd be surprised if we have an ageing fanbase.

If the data is correct, what should the Ticket Office do?
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I agree. Football is expensive at most PL teams and society has caused life to be really challenging for young adults who are trying to balance building a career, buying/renting a house and starting a family. Only older people mainly have the free funds these days so I’d be surprised if our age demographic is radically different to most other PL teams tbh unless we just have a more loyal, patient cohort of fans (which might actually be true but Newcastle and some others would probably be similar).

My opinion is clubs have let the season ticket situation get worse over time and they need to be addressing the various issues. I don’t subscribe to the idea they want season tickets gone completely, they surely must realise that customer loyalty is paramount to business success, but also need to balance that with attracting new supporters. I still hope our club will get it right. In the case of STs not being used I think a phone call to enquire the reason is entirely appropriate and any supporter with a difficult illness or similar situation should be offered the chance to auto-exchange their ticket for the rest of the season. It’s likely that they have taken ill and nobody else in their family or friends knows about informing the club so a phone call would help arrange that. Then again that relies on supporters keeping their details up to date too.
 
Marvin. said:
If that is true then City should contact those people.
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I think they sort of do. There was a guy on here who’s phone was playing up on a couple of occasions and the stewards gave up trying to scan his season card and waved him through . And on both occasions he got an email the following week warning him that his seat was empty and he risked losing his season card. In his case he went into the ticket office and sorted it out. But maybe they need to do more than send an automatic email if someone is missing for numerous games.
 
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