31 | Ederson - 2025/26

I’m not sure he could have done much with any of the goals, unless he comes for Khoulibaly’s header…but he has to get there!

For a keeper, he’s not a tall fella, but he has other attributes we value. I’d be very surprised to see any changes in GK order, let alone personnel!
 
ninjamonkey said:
A bunch of ricochets that provided them with a tap in, a 1v1, a strong header from 6 yards out and a shot he made a very good save thats unfortunately been bundled in. What were you expecting to be different there?
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Have you watched Al Hilal goalkeeper? Or WC GK like Donnarumma, Courtois, Oblak? Those are keepers who actually win you points. Ederson doesn’t. It’s always been a matter of weighing the value of his footwork against what he offers in goal and at this point, I just don’t think it’s worth it anymore.
 
MCFC ISRAEL said:
Have you watched Al Hilal goalkeeper? Or WC GK like Donnarumma, Courtois, Oblak? Those are keepers who actually win you points. Ederson doesn’t. It’s always been a matter of weighing the value of his footwork against what he offers in goal and at this point, I just don’t think it’s worth it anymore.
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I'd suggest you haven't watched us too often if you think ederson hasn't won us anything.
 
What qualities do we want in a keeper to match the way we play?

Do we make most of a keeper’s ability to play accurate 60 yd passes to a forward who will normally have between 5 and 10 defenders between him and the goal - probably not. For a team that tends to pack back in defence and score on the counter attack he’d be a central asset, but that’s not our normal way of operating.

So do we need a keeper who can rescue us from our defensive frailalties? Probably more important from the above, given our defenders.

Would it be nice to have a goal keeper who sometimes saves penalties? Would be handy in penalty shoot outs.

So to make the best of Ederson’s attributes we need to change our whole approach to the game - a team built around a totally solid defence that relies on fast breaks for goals.

At the moment we seem to me to have a mismatch between the skills of our keeper and the way we play the game, one or other needs changing.
 
MCFC ISRAEL said:
Have you watched Al Hilal goalkeeper? Or WC GK like Donnarumma, Courtois, Oblak? Those are keepers who actually win you points. Ederson doesn’t. It’s always been a matter of weighing the value of his footwork against what he offers in goal and at this point, I just don’t think it’s worth it anymore.
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We’ve never relied on him to be an insane shot stopper though. Our pressure from the front, stability in midfield and recovery in transitions at the back alleviated the pressure that made Ederson a luxury we could afford. Now we give possession away that starts counters like a slingshot and our defenders are too slow to recover for those counters. We would give up chances before but they were low quality chances from narrow angles. Now it’s just point blank when our defenders are running at their own goal.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
I’m not sure he could have done much with any of the goals, unless he comes for Khoulibaly’s header…but he has to get there!

For a keeper, he’s not a tall fella, but he has other attributes we value. I’d be very surprised to see any changes in GK order, let alone personnel!
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He's getting nowhere near that header if he comes for it. Ball in was too good, he made the correct decision to stay. I'm reluctant to blame anybody for that goal, it was just a good corner and a great header, Dias is the one in danger of being culpable though if anybody.

Edersons commanding of his box is exceptional by any standards. It will be interesting to see what the new set piece coach does as last season Ederson was boxed in regularly to stop him coming for corners because other teams know that's a strength of his and our decision was to not offer him any shielding to allow him to come for corners.

I commented on it multiple times throughout last season, saying it was odd that we've got a keeper who is good at coming and claiming or clearing crosses and yet we allow for him to be blocked in by 2 players every corner and trust the defenders to deal with it instead. I know it's the popular move now to use the smaller players you'd usually use to shield a keeper to block the biggest aerial threats instead but I wouldn't be surprised to see us go against that and start feeing Ederson up again.
 
ninjamonkey said:
He's getting nowhere near that header if he comes for it. Ball in was too good, he made the correct decision to stay.
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I was actually agreeing with you on that point!
;-)
ninjamonkey said:
I'm reluctant to blame anybody for that goal, it was just a good corner and a great header, Dias is the one in danger of being culpable though if anybody.
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Not a fan of a complete zone. Need a runner or two for the leap. In short, you’ve got to beat your man on a dead ball. The end.
 
6 goals conceded in 2 games. Get him gone. He’s head wasn’t in the game last seaosn look where that got us. Does he looks like he’s locked in rn ? No.

4 ShoT 4 goals. Against AL HILAL ?

Sign. A. New. GK. Now !
 
BluestBlue said:
6 goals conceded in 2 games. Get him gone. He’s head wasn’t in the game last seaosn look where that got us. Does he looks like he’s locked in rn ? No.

4 ShoT 4 goals. Against AL HILAL ?

Sign. A. New. GK. Now !
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The hard part is “Which one should he have saved?”

Even if you shop 4 goals, if you can’t be blamed for any of them, then…

Their keeper shipped 3, but was their MOTM!!
 
@SWP's back

Argument last season he was the top performing GK in his PL season. But, as I say in this post, also the Raheem Sterling of goalkeepers

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31 | Ederson - 2024/25

If his actual goalkeeping performances were regularly that good, we'd be desperate to keep him. On his day, the absolute perfect keeper. On his day.
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The PSxG stat for 24/25 PL season isn't bull shit. Ederson's was the best but this hasn't been the norm :)

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come-on-barney said:
112th minute before his first save :)
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Of the goals though which one could he have saved? Ok, there was the parry from the cross but nearly every modern keeper would do the same. Not saying he’s a great actual keeper by the way but he never has been.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
The hard part is “Which one should he have saved?”

Even if you shop 4 goals, if you can’t be blamed for any of them, then…

Their keeper shipped 3, but was their MOTM!!
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Defence is horrid. He’s part of it.

Nothing changes if nothing changes. Either make the tough calls, cut the sentiments and ship players out or forget winning the PL or CL with a team that simply can’t defend and a keeper that you can’t rely on to save you.
 
BluestBlue said:
Defence is horrid. He’s part of it.

Nothing changes if nothing changes. Either make the tough calls, cut the sentiments and ship players out or forget winning the PL or CL with a team that simply can’t defend and a keeper that you can’t rely on to save you.
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Since he arrived for the 2017-2018 Premier League season, Ederson has won the most Golden Glove awards, securing it 3 times (2019-20, 2020-21, and 2021-22 seasons).

Other multiple winners in this period include:
• David Raya with 2 consecutive wins (2023-24, 2024-25) for Arsenal.
• Alisson with 2 wins (2018-19, 2021-22) for Liverpool.
• David de Gea with 2 wins (2017-18, 2022-23) for Manchester United.

Ederson leads all current Premier League goalkeepers with the highest number of Golden Gloves since his arrival in the League.

So, while I’ll agree he is the last line of defence, and in some years they may have helped him win those awards, I would politely suggest he’s not the liability you paint him as.

Our defensive frailties are well known, and I’m sure they piss him off more than they do you!
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Since he arrived for the 2017-2018 Premier League season, Ederson has won the most Golden Glove awards, securing it 3 times (2019-20, 2020-21, and 2021-22 seasons).

Other multiple winners in this period include:
• David Raya with 2 consecutive wins (2023-24, 2024-25) for Arsenal.
• Alisson with 2 wins (2018-19, 2021-22) for Liverpool.
• David de Gea with 2 wins (2017-18, 2022-23) for Manchester United.

Ederson leads all current Premier League goalkeepers with the highest number of Golden Gloves since his arrival in the League.

So, while I’ll agree he is the last line of defence, and in some years they may have helped him win those awards, I would politely suggest he’s not the liability you paint him as.

Our defensive frailties are well known, and I’m sure they piss him off more than they do you!
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Golden glove awards ? Mate, I’m not trying to be rude but I can’t be arsed about team awards. That award depends heavily on how stable your backline is.

I have watched every minute he’s ever played for us. I know what he is. He’s not a shot stopper like Donnarumma or Courtois.

Pep has never needed him to be that so we could win.


He wanted to leave. He should leave. Last season was his worst ever season.


I’m not saying anything controversial. I don’t hate the guy. To me he locked in when it mattered the most - MOTM against Inter in CL final.


We’re never gonna find a GK who’s comfortable with his feet like Ederson. So there’s no point in trying to find a like for like replacement. Just like how there’s no KDB replacement.

Therfore the only option is to get a GK who will give you a lifeline in some games, save you in shootouts. It would be incredibly refreshing. We could benefit greatly from that in cup competitions.

Onto the defence. Yes I agree it’s awful. He must hate how transparent they are.

Completely mind boggling imo to play defenders who can’t sprint or jump when we have Khusonov and Reis who are elite at each respectively.

Dias looks like he’s got ankle weights. Ake and Akanji are past it. Nunes has concentration lapses. The defence is shielded by the old guard with a million kms in their legs between them

It’s no surprise we concede for fun. But it can be fixed. Everything can be fixed
 
Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
@SWP's back

Argument last season he was the top performing GK in his PL season. But, as I say in this post, also the Raheem Sterling of goalkeepers

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31 | Ederson - 2024/25

If his actual goalkeeping performances were regularly that good, we'd be desperate to keep him. On his day, the absolute perfect keeper. On his day.
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The PSxG stat for 24/25 PL season isn't bull shit. Ederson's was the best but this hasn't been the norm :)

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he maybe be top performer, but the his biggest flaw is that he often switches off
 
He's a mystery player Ederson. Very hard to judge him because especially in his early years at City he had very little to do as our defence was pretty rock solid. These last couple of seasons though has been a very mixed bag, and what he's had to do he's not done particularly well. No real competition for his place though so he's safe
 
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