FromPollockToSilva
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Who is this mythical bunch of over-30s? Gündo is the only outfield player over 30 who played any part yesterday
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Pep Guardiola - 2025/26
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I'm With Stupid
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Is this a pedantic "30 year-olds don't count as over-30" point?Who is this mythical bunch of over-30s? Gündo is the only outfield player over 30 who played any part yesterday
I thought he got everything spot on in the CWC up until last night.
He took liberties last night with the team selection, tactics and subs thinking that game would be a walk over.
Maybe we all got lulled in a little too much from that Juventus game, but last night was a shocker from Pep.
We were getting drilled on the counter left right and centre yet at one point we had Bernardo as the pivot.
Cherki and Marmoush came on way to late and Savio should have been off at half time.
Baffling.
He took liberties last night with the team selection, tactics and subs thinking that game would be a walk over.
Maybe we all got lulled in a little too much from that Juventus game, but last night was a shocker from Pep.
We were getting drilled on the counter left right and centre yet at one point we had Bernardo as the pivot.
Cherki and Marmoush came on way to late and Savio should have been off at half time.
Baffling.
FromPollockToSilva
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Even if they did, that only adds Bernardo to the list. We're hardly Ancelotti's Milan side, are we? Half the XI yesterday were under 25Is this a pedantic "30 year-olds don't count as over-30" point?
A Mahrez? You make no sense unc
It’s over above 25 now.you can thank Chelsea for thatWho is this mythical bunch of over-30s? Gündo is the only outfield player over 30 who played any part yesterday
Fanks, but what da fuk is dat about?Old guy. In this case it’s for the old guard like Gundo, Bernardo, Kovacic, Stones and formerly de Bruyne
GaudinoMotors
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A reasoned response - thank you.The hysterical reaction is wild from some quarters. We're forming hot takes based on a competition that a) means fuck all to most of us b) is either bolted on to a crammed 24/25 season or an EXTREMELY early 25/26 prr season but either way is fucking terribly timed and c) played in horrible conditions.
The prism we SHOULD be looking through is its given a chance for us to get business done early and for us to settle new squad members. Now our players can go and have a well needed break before the real work starts.
They've been playing none stop for 11 months near enough (longer for guys that went deep in the Euros).
Let's give everyone a chance to recover and more than two weeks to learn new relationships, allow the new coaching staff ideas to take seed eh?
We were winning the league at a cantor at the weekend and now half the thread are Pep out. The joys of this place at times.
And whilst you mention it, Pep does absofuckinglutely have plenty of credit in the bank based on his past record. Short memories and all that.
But your observation that we were winning the league at a cantor and now we have the criticisms of Pep - aren't so much about posters kneeherk hypocrisy, but more the inconsistency of our performances, from peak to trough, mainly through poor selections and changes. Unnecessary peaks and troughs and mind-boggling team sheets.
Has been the case on and off with Pep, but over the last two seasons it's become his m.o.
This has been one of the weakest Juve sides in recent histortyYes if that happens, and if it does Pep will know himself, only a couple of days ago most were saying how against Juventus we were staring to look like our old selves, and Pep had his mojo back,as we did for 45 minutes this morning, yet because we lost we get the usual posts from the usual suspects.
Exactly. Top of Serie A is midtable in the PL.This has been one of the weakest Juve sides in recent historty
But they would probably do a number on us by parking bus not giving us space and do 1 shot 1 goal (something what bottom half does against us all the time )Exactly. Top of Serie A is midtable in the PL.
I'm criticizing what I've been seeing for the past year, I have never asked for the manager to get sacked, and plenty of managers were winning stuff for years until they didn't.Winning stuff for years on end then the one year we don't throw it all away. Yes bollocks to that as I say the club aren't idiots so they won't, so no worries.
FromPollockToSilva
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Ultimately, I'm pleased with the club's response to the club's calamitous form last season. Bringing Viana's appointment forward, refreshing the playing squad, hiring new staff to work with Pep, beginning the process of phasing out some older players (TBD on how far we go with that this year)
We have done everything possible to set Pep up for success. He either turns things around or he doesn't. Come the end of next season, when we will have turned over a ton of senior players, we'll either have Pep's new side or someone else's new side. I'm optimistic he'll embrace the challenge, but if it doesn't work out, we're putting the squad in the right place for whatever comes next
We have done everything possible to set Pep up for success. He either turns things around or he doesn't. Come the end of next season, when we will have turned over a ton of senior players, we'll either have Pep's new side or someone else's new side. I'm optimistic he'll embrace the challenge, but if it doesn't work out, we're putting the squad in the right place for whatever comes next
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Good start would be ditching having both slow CBs playing 30 yards from oppo goal.
Kept 2 clean sheets vs good teams last year and one was at start of season(Chelsea). The other was freak result vs Newcastle as we lost every other game we played vs a good teams before and after that result.
It's looking like we'll be carrying these same issues into next season. Starting to lose confidence in Peps ability and/or willingness to adapt to how teams approach us simply because it'd mean giving up some control
Kept 2 clean sheets vs good teams last year and one was at start of season(Chelsea). The other was freak result vs Newcastle as we lost every other game we played vs a good teams before and after that result.
It's looking like we'll be carrying these same issues into next season. Starting to lose confidence in Peps ability and/or willingness to adapt to how teams approach us simply because it'd mean giving up some control
For the last 7-8 months we haven’t fixed anything. We’ve had problems and quite a few disappointments. Now we’ve started this new season with this tournament, but we’re still playing the same way.
After every press conference, especially after games we lose or when we’re completely outplayed, he keeps explaining things tactically in a very casual way. It’s always about how amazing the opponent is, how great their players are, how we tried our best, and that we’ll fix it next time, and so on. But I don’t see any real changes happening. It’s as if our system isn’t developing at all, and the new players seem unable to adapt or fit into our style and contribute the way they should.
I’m starting to question his motivation and his goals for our team. It feels like he’s just living off past successes instead of working to improve things.
After every press conference, especially after games we lose or when we’re completely outplayed, he keeps explaining things tactically in a very casual way. It’s always about how amazing the opponent is, how great their players are, how we tried our best, and that we’ll fix it next time, and so on. But I don’t see any real changes happening. It’s as if our system isn’t developing at all, and the new players seem unable to adapt or fit into our style and contribute the way they should.
I’m starting to question his motivation and his goals for our team. It feels like he’s just living off past successes instead of working to improve things.
For the last 7-8 months we haven’t fixed anything. We’ve had problems and quite a few disappointments. Now we’ve started this new season with this tournament, but we’re still playing the same way.
After every press conference, especially after games we lose or when we’re completely outplayed, he keeps explaining things tactically in a very casual way. It’s always about how amazing the opponent is, how great their players are, how we tried our best, and that we’ll fix it next time, and so on. But I don’t see any real changes happening. It’s as if our system isn’t developing at all, and the new players seem unable to adapt or fit into our style and contribute the way they should.
I’m starting to question his motivation and his goals for our team. It feels like he’s just living off past successes instead of working to improve things.
Why was we the best team in the premier past January? Come back after the season coming up with information you can back up with a full season under this rebuild
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Why do people think new coaches and backroom staff were gonna influence our style of play or change things up. They work for pep so they drill his tactics and ideas.
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The point isn't really that they're over 30, the point is that they're over-30, have already played more minutes than any other player in that position this season, and are starting in a setup where they're arguably having to do far more running than they would with a more solid base behind them. He might have only started those two, but he also then chose to bring on Akanji (30 in a couple of weeks, admittedly) and Ake when we had Khusanov and Reis on the bench.Even if they did, that only adds Bernardo to the list. We're hardly Ancelotti's Milan side, are we? Half the XI yesterday were under 25
Bernardo has played the 3rd highest number of minutes in our squad after Gvardiol and Haaland, despite a noticeable drop off in intensity. Gundo has played the 6th after Eddie and Dias. And the next on the list is Kovacic. So all of our most-used midfielders this season are over 30. And there's nothing automatically wrong with players over 30, but in a situation where there's been a noticeable lack of intensity, and we're complaining about a gruelling schedule, surely limiting the minutes that the likes of Gundogan and Bernardo have to play allows us to get the best out of them when we do use them. Reijnders too apparently played an insane number of minutes last year. If there was ever an excuse to blood a few new players, you'd think an insanely scheduled end of season tournament in a sweat box would be it.
The job of the manager is to make sure his team creates more chances than the opposition. The job of the manager isn't to score or save goals.
Luis Enrique made sure PSG created more chances than Botafogo yet PSG lost. That's normal, happens all the time in football.
We created twice the chances Al Hilal had, but failed to convert most of them. Football is a great game partly because the better team loses sometimes.
Pep or the club won't sell Haaland because he missed chances. It happens. The really important thing was that the chances were created, and that the created chances were way more than the conceded chances. In 75% of such games, we win them.
Basically, most of the criticisms are directed to us conceding chances. It would be a valid criticism if we didn't create many more chances than we conceded. We could have been 3 up after the first half in which Al Hilal didn't have a shot on target.
Also, when we try to control the game and avoid conceding chances, then the same people complain we are passing the ball sideways and are boring.
In a nutshell, those people haven't understood why we won 4 in a row, the Treble, and broke all-time records. It's because we create more chances than the opposition in virtually every single game. As long as we continue to do it, we are likely to compete and win. Sometimes we lose and have a bad season. That's perfectly normal. We sign new players and go again. Or let the available players regain form.
The complaints that we are slow, pass the ball sideways and are vulnerable to counters have accompanied the team since Pep has been our manager. And they resurface every time we have problems. They lead to scapegoating of future legends like Gundo and Rodri, and so on. Some people never learn.
Luis Enrique made sure PSG created more chances than Botafogo yet PSG lost. That's normal, happens all the time in football.
We created twice the chances Al Hilal had, but failed to convert most of them. Football is a great game partly because the better team loses sometimes.
Pep or the club won't sell Haaland because he missed chances. It happens. The really important thing was that the chances were created, and that the created chances were way more than the conceded chances. In 75% of such games, we win them.
Basically, most of the criticisms are directed to us conceding chances. It would be a valid criticism if we didn't create many more chances than we conceded. We could have been 3 up after the first half in which Al Hilal didn't have a shot on target.
Also, when we try to control the game and avoid conceding chances, then the same people complain we are passing the ball sideways and are boring.
In a nutshell, those people haven't understood why we won 4 in a row, the Treble, and broke all-time records. It's because we create more chances than the opposition in virtually every single game. As long as we continue to do it, we are likely to compete and win. Sometimes we lose and have a bad season. That's perfectly normal. We sign new players and go again. Or let the available players regain form.
The complaints that we are slow, pass the ball sideways and are vulnerable to counters have accompanied the team since Pep has been our manager. And they resurface every time we have problems. They lead to scapegoating of future legends like Gundo and Rodri, and so on. Some people never learn.
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If you look at the goal where ederson palms it out and they knock it in look at that play defensively! We have none and it goes back to pep saying he does not coach defending! So who does? Surely you have the basics as in get tight don’t let opponents cross the ball into the box then where the defenders should be aware there surroundings where to be!