Football Governance Bill (Independent Regulator)

I doubt Sky/TNT will allow any of the big boys to be on free to air TV.

So it'll be 10 rag games.

All this regulator really is is someone else who has access to the trough, imagine some government quango having authority over football?

It's going to be an abomination. Lots and lots of Monkey Dust content :)
 
Whilst we hope for a level playing field, my skeptical inner child worries that we'll be seen as the problem still. I hope not, and hope that an independent body will not stand for loyalties and personal gain to cloud judgement.

Something interesting in the article that I hadn't picked up on from elsewhere

"Premier League television viewing figures on main live rights-holder Sky Sports were down 10% last season, while TNT Sports had a 17% reduction in its year-on-year figures."

Aside from the fact that an underperforming City isn't good for the premier league or champions league, it would seem (calling Dick Scudamore?), and alongside tongue in cheek proof that Liverpool won a one horse race where everyone switched off after Christmas rather than hear there self gratification , this could be the start of a very worrying trend for English football.

Why are figures down? Are subscribers down? Is interest in top level football waning? Was last year just a less attractive year of football, less competitive? Is the product spoiling? Is the presentation of the product past it's sell by date? Did city literally ruin football, or did making every other discussion about toes being offside and oil money mean we forgot the action on the pitch?

Let's see what happens. Football will never die, especially in its heartland, but this could be a sign that the all you can eat US buffet is closing its doors through necessity as well as just cause.
I'll answer this, NO. I own a Firestick, so interest in Footy isn't waning, I alongside thousands of other fans just refuse to pay our hard earned money to the likes of sky and tnt and another bonus is I can watch a game without the likes of spitty, camel gob and the rest of the cunts commentating on a game.
 
MPs also voted against a requirement for prospective board chairs of the Regulator to publish their political interests and donations.

That amendment was tabled after the government's proposed chair of the new independent regulator, David Kogan, becoming the subject of an inquiry by the Commissioner for Public Appointments.

Kogan had contributed money to the Labour leadership campaigns of Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy and Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, leading to claims of "cronyism" from Conservative MPs.


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Move on, nothing to see here.
 
All this regulator really is is someone else who has access to the trough, imagine some government quango having authority over football?

It's going to be an abomination. Lots and lots of Monkey Dust content :)
What do you think the job of the Regulator is going to be?
 
Fuck only knows, initially I thought it might just be interference but on further inspection my prediction is that it'll be a lot worse than that.


Well my reading of what you linked and from listening to Lisa Nandy, Kieran McGuire -‘d another academic who drafted the White Paper talking about it -

It’s going to be light touch so only really get involved where it feels that the football governing bodies either need a hand or guidance.

1) It’s going to set into law the fit and proper person owners test so that clubs are less likely to go bust like Bury or end up with terrible owners like at Reading, Southend, Sheffield Wednesday, Morecambe etc. The regulator will have the power to step in to deal with clubs in crisis.

2) It’s going to sort the impasse between the PL & EFL over the distribution of TV revenue. They’ve been haggling for years over it and the PL are purposefully dragging their feet so that they don’t have share money down the pyramid.

3) They are going to protect the heritage of clubs so that owners can’t come in and for example - change the name of a club (Hull Tigers) or the colour of the kit (Cardiff) or move the club to a different town or city (Wimbledon) without fans being properly engaged and consulted.

That’s it.

Nothing to do with ticket prices. Beer in stands. Terrestrial TV coverage. Or anything else.

I’m not really sure why fans wouldn’t want any of the above.
 
I'll answer this, NO. I own a Firestick, so interest in Footy isn't waning, I alongside thousands of other fans just refuse to pay our hard earned money to the likes of sky and tnt and another bonus is I can watch a game without the likes of spitty, camel gob and the rest of the cunts commentating on a game.
I think this is very valid and just highlights that the 'product' isn't appealing (not the football itself, but the package you have to buy to engage with it legitimately) when they wrap it up in sky gift paper and charge a fortune for it every month, then you find out some of the pieces are missing so you need a TNT subscription, then Amazon prime.

It's no coincidence that music and video game piracy dropped dramatically when the product themselves were made more accessible, cheaper (but not as cheap as the Russian knock off sites so still profit to be made) and equally through different platforms.

The issue we have in England is, this profitability drives the clubs to invest, buy better players, the best players in fact, which makes the league more attractive/profitable, which attracts more investment and do on and so on.

The problem comes when the product becomes too unattractive for too many punters. Less subscribers means less audience means less value generated through sponsorship and ads. How does it become less attractive? Well either the football becomes boring, or you have a financial downturn and people look elsewhere for value.




The short version is, I don't think the premier League, rather ironically, have a very sustainable financial model. They protect clubs taking money out of the game, yet punish those wanting to bring it in . The greed of the few is driving them, and it could end up risking the league's reputation as the best in the world. Whether this new independent regulator changes that, or speeds it up, is going to be interesting.
 
Well my reading of what you linked and from listening to Lisa Nandy, Kieran McGuire -‘d another academic who drafted the White Paper talking about it -

It’s going to be light touch so only really get involved where it feels that the football governing bodies either need a hand or guidance.

1) It’s going to set into law the fit and proper person owners test so that clubs are less likely to go bust like Bury or end up with terrible owners like at Reading, Southend, Sheffield Wednesday, Morecambe etc. The regulator will have the power to step in to deal with clubs in crisis.

2) It’s going to sort the impasse between the PL & EFL over the distribution of TV revenue. They’ve been haggling for years over it and the PL are purposefully dragging their feet so that they don’t have share money down the pyramid.

3) They are going to protect the heritage of clubs so that owners can’t come in and for example - change the name of a club (Hull Tigers) or the colour of the kit (Cardiff) or move the club to a different town or city (Wimbledon) without fans being properly engaged and consulted.

That’s it.

Nothing to do with ticket prices. Beer in stands. Terrestrial TV coverage. Or anything else.

I’m not really sure why fans wouldn’t want any of the above.

I would prefer if the government weren't involved it any of it other than football clubs breaking the law because no good will come of it.

The fit and proper test for example will still allow owners like the Glazers to do business, and if anyone believes that this new regulator will help "smaller" clubs they live in dreamland.

Divvying out more money to those clubs will eventually lead to players being even more expensive because clubs will have more money, or even attract more unscrupulous owners who may eye more profit in a lower league set up.

If the regulator can't do much what was the point in setting it up? The first red flag is their appointee IMO, shows where they are possibly going with this.
 
I would prefer if the government weren't involved it any of it other than football clubs breaking the law because no good will come of it.

The fit and proper test for example will still allow owners like the Glazers to do business, and if anyone believes that this new regulator will help "smaller" clubs they live in dreamland.

Divvying out more money to those clubs will eventually lead to players being even more expensive because clubs will have more money, or even attract more unscrupulous owners who may eye more profit in a lower league set up.

If the regulator can't do much what was the point in setting it up? The first red flag is their appointee IMO, shows where they are possibly going with this.

You must think the football governing bodies are doing a great job then. I would say they need to be forced to do a better job.
 
You must think the football governing bodies are doing a great job then. I would say they need to be forced to do a better job.

I think it's all just about money, however I am a pragmatist and think the government will just fuck it all up and interfere without changing anything/

It's fans that change things not more people slurping from the same trough.
 
Kogan had contributed money to the Labour leadership campaigns of Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy and Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, leading to claims of "cronyism" from Conservative MPs.
I mean the fucking irony, but yeah. Isn't it funny how these important positions just happen to go to someone who donated a large amount of money to the people who happen to be in charge at the time?
 

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