What has the UK become under the far right influence?

Onholiday(somemightsay) said:
His name rings a bell - is he a comedian by chance?

Sure I've heard him on a podcast or similar
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Not for the first time Bluethrunthru makes shit up to suit his agenda. Kisin did not state that Sunak was not British and speaking about himself and Sunak he said and I quote....

"We're both British"

He questioned whether Sunak was English.

Sunak has described himself as British Asian.
 
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Men in court after women die following Sunderland care home crash

Two care home residents, a woman in her 80s and another in her 90s, died a day after the crash.
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Last year he was rioting to demonstrate his anger at the Southport murders. And that he loves his country, and that.

This year he steals a BMW, kidnapping the owner before ejecting her from the car. And then drives the stolen car into a care home, killing two elderly residents.

Several of his "supporters" turn up at court in a show of solidarity with this scrote.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Konstantin Kisin ... is telling us Sunak - a man Born in Southampton - cannot be British because of his skin colour.
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Has Kisin actually said that, or have you just made it up. Tbh I find it very hard to believe and strongly suspect you're twisting his words to suit your own political views.

I'm fully prepared to apologise if you have indeed got a relevant quote.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Has Kisin actually said that, or have you just made it up. Tbh I find it very hard to believe and strongly suspect you're twisting his words to suit your own political views.

I'm fully prepared to apologise if you have indeed got a relevant quote.
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Honestly - research - 2 clicks to this - I probably got this up more quickly than it took you to type what you hoped was a Gotcha

 
bluethrunthru said:
Honestly - research - 2 clicks to this - I probably got this up more quickly than it took you to type what you hoped was a Gotcha

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I can see where he's perhaps coming from if I was able to see the whole interview.

English is not a nationality, it's an ethnicity. Sunak's nationality is obviously British. But his ethnicity is not English, it's Indian. He cannot change his ethnicity just by being born in England, just like I would not be an Arab if I had been born in Saudi Arabia.

So Sunak is not English. He's British.
 
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Chippy_boy said:
Thanks. I apologise.

But I can see where he's perhaps coming from if I was able to see the whole interview.

English is not only a nationality, it's an ethnicity. Sunak's nationality is obviously English (more correctly British). But that's a simplification. His ethnicity is not English, it's Indian. He cannot change his ethnicity just by being born in England, any more than I am an Arab if has been born in Saudi Arabia.
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which is why I said I don't agree with Sunaks politics ( events of the last couple of days have cemented that further ) but I will defend his nationality against twats like Kiskin ( who is an immigrant from Moscow ) who base his views on skin colour. That is what is being used to fuck up this country - idiots listing to people like him and going "yeah - I agree with that " - in that case I am fully behind Sunak
 
We have a family living round the corner from us. The couple both have brand new Range Rovers with private number plates, matching quad bikes. The pair are covered in expensive tats. Always wearing designer gear, get takeaways almost every night. None of them have ever worked a day since they moved in and are only to proud to tell you that they are on benefits.
There are those that cannot work and those who won't. Before we consider stopping the boats how about dealing with what's happening on our own doorsteps
 
bluethrunthru said:
which is why I said I don't agree with Sunaks politics ( events of the last couple of days have cemented that further ) but I will defend his nationality against twats like Kiskin ( who is an immigrant from Moscow ) who base his views on skin colour. That is what is being used to fuck up this country - idiots listing to people like him and going "yeah - I agree with that " - in that case I am fully behind Sunak
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I edited my post. And I withdraw my apology. You twisted it, as I suspected you would have done.

You are in fact wrong. Sunak is NOT English. He's British. English is an ethnicity not a nationality.

I am not an Arab and were I born in Saudi Arabia, I would still not be an Arab. Sunak similarly is NOT English.

His religion is Hindu, his family ancestry is from India, his biological features are consistent with other Indians. He is Indian.
 
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richardtheref said:
We have a family living round the corner from us. The couple both have brand new Range Rovers with private number plates, matching quad bikes. The pair are covered in expensive tats. Always wearing designer gear, get takeaways almost every night. None of them have ever worked a day since they moved in and are only to proud to tell you that they are on benefits.
There are those that cannot work and those who won't. Before we consider stopping the boats how about dealing with what's happening on our own doorsteps
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I've been on benefits since my wife needed a wheelchair, and we just about survive. Could you please ask them what their secret is?
 
Chippy_boy said:
I edited my post. And I withdraw my apology. You twisted it, as I suspected you would have done.

You are in fact wrong. Sunak is NOT English. He's British. English is an ethnicity not a nationality.

I am not an Arab and were I born in Saudi Arabia, I would still not be an Arab. Sunak similarly is NOT English.

His religion is Hindu, his family ancestry is from India, his biological features are consistent with other Indians. He is Indian.
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don't fall off that pinhead you are dancing on will you? Ethnicity or Nationality? So what - are you happy to see it decided on skin colour then?
 
bluethrunthru said:
don't fall off that pinhead you are dancing on will you? Ethnicity or Nationality? So what - are you happy to see it decided on skin colour then?
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I'm not happy or sad about anything. Just explaining to you the difference between nationality and ethnicity.

It can be confusing and I used to get confused myself. There's nothing racist about it. People have an ethnicity that's based on their ancestry, history, culture, traditions and yes, biology. An Aboriginal Australian does not look like a Norwegian. An no Norwegian born in central Australia could ever be called an Aboriginal Australian. (I gather the term "Aborigine" is now considered offensive and Aboriginal Australian, or Indigenous Australian is prefered.)
 
bluethrunthru said:
don't fall off that pinhead you are dancing on will you? Ethnicity or Nationality? So what - are you happy to see it decided on skin colour then?
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You've completely lost the plot.

Black Lives Matter is meaningless without reference to ethnicity. Abbott's suspension from the Labour Party is meaningless without reference to ethnicity. Antisemitism is anti nothing without reference to ethnicity, the Race Relations Act 1965, the Equality Act 2010 all meaningless without reference to ethnicity.

Ethnic minorities don't exist without reference to ethnic majorities!

Nationality is not the same as ethnicity, this is Newtonian apples falling from trees! It's mind-boggling how confused you are.

Get real for fuck sake.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
You've completely lost the plot.

Black Lives Matter is meaningless without reference to ethnicity. Abbott's suspension from the Labour Party is meaningless without reference to ethnicity. Antisemitism is anti nothing without reference to ethnicity, the Race Relations Act 1965, the Equality Act 2010 all meaningless without reference to ethnicity.

Ethnic minorities don't exist without reference to ethnic majorities!

Get real for fuck sake.
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It's a bizarre world when you and I find ourselves agreeing more often than disagreeing! Well, I do anyway. Maybe I'm putting words in your mouth ;-)

Seems a long time since we just hurled insults at each other, and all the better for us now not. Have a good evening, Fumble!
 
richardtheref said:
The couple both have brand new Range Rovers with private number plates, matching quad bikes.
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And how do they get them? And before you answer PiP or Motability Range Rovers are not on the Motability list because they would be above the maximum PiP allowance for the scheme. As for the idea that people on benefits get quad bikes - I'll file this under things that never happened.

Before you makes such claims you can do some research you know.
 
bluethrunthru said:
And how do they get them? And before you answer PiP or Motability Range Rovers are not on the Motability list because they would be above the maximum PiP allowance for the scheme. As for the idea that people on benefits get quad bikes - I'll file this under things that never happened.

Before you makes such claims you can do some research you know.
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They probably got some money from inheritance or something.
 
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