Media discussion - 2025/26

letter sent as below - not much chance, he's probably a dipper or a rag. (EDIT probably not)

Hi Tim,

Probably a tricky subject but an old chestnut for football fans like me who don't happen to support those two huge northern redshirt clubs who get such overwhelming coverage on the BBC website and via its contributions shown in the wider network. This includes the overwhelmingly negative coverage of their PL rivals - which also generate lots of clicks from the same target audience. Nothing new really, the US-owned client media of the US-owned clubs controlling the PL (now an increased majority) have been doing the same for over a decade. Ever since the nouveau rich started to challenge for the established top 4's revenue streams - which is of course the whole point of the exercise.

The surprise is that our public broadcaster has joined in over that period with increasing enthusiasm and some suggest the long-term banning by Man City of its Sports Editor Dan Roan back in 2018 could be a major factor!

Anyway, my request is that your programme could look at their article yesterday which seeks to justify Liverpool's current splurge in the transfer market. It's exactly the opposite of their standard reaction to any lavish spending by the likes of Chelsea, Man City or Newcastle. The authors switch between timeframes and net/gross spending stats to produce a wholly misleading picture and this is reflected in many of the critical comments at the end of the piece. I believe an accurate table showing the true position they're trying to explain away is given here but there are many other independent sources too.

If you calculate the % of articles written over recent years about Liverpool & Manchester United (Simon Stone is both their United correspondent & also their Chief Football Writer btw) I'm pretty sure it would also demonstrate the blatantly unbalanced coverage these two teams get.

Best Wishes,
Good effort but dont hold your breath
 
Just watched BBC local news ....they've even spun the lass leaving Liverpool for 1mill yes 1 mill as a good story for the dippers .......Mmm
 
These are some direct quotes from the article, which the Fail tried to hide behind a paywall, as if anyone would pay to read the bile this **** comes out with. It's not journalism, just pure hate!

their success has been built on systematic financial deceit – cheating, to you or me

their success has been built on Abu Dhabi pumping in vast wads of petrol dollars disguised as sponsorship cash.

115 charges against them.

Puma... despite its largesse, the German sportswear company certainly needs all the help it can get, four months after a 23 per cent drop in its share price

hit with a punishment on those charges of financial chicanery.

(Puma) have been rewarded very handsomely by the Abu Dhabi state.

if City were found guilty of what would be one of the most significant episodes of financial deceit in football history

the spending goes merrily on and the printable version of the message from the club and their sponsors is: ‘Sod you.
Perhaps I need to read it again but all you've done is take out part sentences without the context of his point. I can't say (on first reading) what the problem is with what he's written and why so many are crying. City definitely won't be "going after him" based on that article.
 
Perhaps I need to read it again but all you've done is take out part sentences without the context of his point. I can't say (on first reading) what the problem is with what he's written and why so many are crying. City definitely won't be "going after him" based on that article.
Let me try and help you understand how it works if you're a professional journalist (which I was for a while way back).
You want folk to read your work so you identify a target audience & along with the sub-editor (or whatever they call them now) ensure that the key 'siren' message is transmitted in the strapline, then you follow it up in spades in the piece.

Obviously if it's heavy duty stuff you don't want legal trouble for your employer - just lots of sales/clicks - so you wrap it up carefully in bland caveats, usually at the end of a sentence or a strapline. @homerdog has helpfully unwrapped them for you to help you see the problem but seems you just want to wrap them up again. Here's another example from Banned Roan with my complaint to the CMS SoS about it underneath - all the same points really.


BBC Complaints - Case number CAS-7928353-B5P0L0
"Prejudicial Reporting

"Man City case 'moral reward' for Football Leaks hacker, lawyer claims ".


The above headline echoes the purpose of this article, which is clearly intended to defend a convicted extortionist whose corrupted evidence was comprehensively exposed by CAS two years ago after it was misused by UEFA to charge Manchester City with sponsorship wrongdoing under pressure from its elite rivals . Those same teams now control the Premier League, forcing it to repeat their earlier failed attempt to damage City using the identical doctored emails and once again relying on the full-throated support of your Sports Editor Dan Roan to endorse their blatantly racist, anti-arab media narratives . This outrageous piece is just the latest example of Roan's many attempts to smear the club following his permanent banning by them in 2018 for lying about Patrick Vieira. Over the years he has abused his position by enthusiastically promoting every element of the redshirt cartel's relentless anti-City propaganda campaign as it moved from 'state ownership' to 'financial doping' to 'sportswashing' and now the 'dirty cheating oil club ' slur. When these current confected charges are again dismissed as baseless the BBC will surely have to answer for his conduct (and that of subordinates under his direction) in nearly a decade of disgracefully biased reporting about Man City by our national broadcaster and the reputational damage it has unfairly inflicted as a result. "
 
That's exactly what these so-called journalists do, so not sure why I shouldn't do the same.

If you don't get it, then I guess he's succeeded in his attempts to denigrate us.
So you think he's written what seems to be a perfectly reasonable piece in order to fool us? Have you asked the doctor to up your dose at all? Try starting with double and see if you can spot reality at all.
 
Not read it yet myself but the archived version is here:-

Finally read the article, thanks for link. It really warms the cockles of my heart that 6 years or more since the investigation started, a year or so since the IC were appointed, 221 days, + 2 now, since the IC wound up the hearing. These writers still decide to throw negative light on the progress, football and financial, of City. Whilst another writer hails livarpool womens team selling their best player for a profit while this writer is bitter that City's record breaking sponsorship with Puma deserves such a negative spin with the added old City bingo clichés. I don't know about others but articles like this one will give me a warm glow during the dark winter. A bit like the old ad jingo for Ready Brek which was, 'central heating for kids' well these articles are my equivalent for a FOC to keep warm this winter. In their heads 24/7, lovely isn't it;-)
 
Daily Fail, yet again.
Former Man Utd star labelled ‘the footballer who could fly’ dies aged 83.

Wyn Davis played 611 games in his career, SIXTEEN of which were for them.
181 for Newcastle
155 for Bolton
55 for Wrexham
55 for Crewe
45 for City
36 for Blackpool
30 for Stockport
16 for the Rags

Anyone in football who doubts how the media in general and journalists in particular work just need to read that headline…
 
Daily Fail, yet again.
Former Man Utd star labelled ‘the footballer who could fly’ dies aged 83.

Wyn Davis played 611 games in his career, SIXTEEN of which were for them.
181 for Newcastle
155 for Bolton
55 for Wrexham
55 for Crewe
45 for City
36 for Blackpool
30 for Stockport
16 for the Rags

Anyone in football who doubts how the media in general and journalists in particular work just need to read that headline…
City usually get top billing... when a former player has been a Naughty Boy.... even if we are fifth on his list of most appearances
 
Daily Fail, yet again.
Former Man Utd star labelled ‘the footballer who could fly’ dies aged 83.

Wyn Davis played 611 games in his career, SIXTEEN of which were for them.
181 for Newcastle
155 for Bolton
55 for Wrexham
55 for Crewe
45 for City
36 for Blackpool
30 for Stockport
16 for the Rags

Anyone in football who doubts how the media in general and journalists in particular work just need to read that headline…
Exactly Blue, I admit to checking how many games he had actually played for the clowns this morning. The media are so fucking thick nowadays, they don't realise.
 
Just the 5 Mansheshurr Uniyyyded articles from Slimey Stone in the last 24 hours.
What a tit. He will of course be really hurting inside on their current league title drought. In the last 58 odd years, they went 26 years last time and 13 and counting this time. In fact the cunts have only really won anything in two different 20-odd year spells, with two different Scottish managers in their history. The Bay City Roller fan boys are hurting alright.
 
Finally read the article, thanks for link. It really warms the cockles of my heart that 6 years or more since the investigation started, a year or so since the IC were appointed, 221 days, + 2 now, since the IC wound up the hearing. These writers still decide to throw negative light on the progress, football and financial, of City. Whilst another writer hails livarpool womens team selling their best player for a profit while this writer is bitter that City's record breaking sponsorship with Puma deserves such a negative spin with the added old City bingo clichés. I don't know about others but articles like this one will give me a warm glow during the dark winter. A bit like the old ad jingo for Ready Brek which was, 'central heating for kids' well these articles are my equivalent for a FOC to keep warm this winter. In their heads 24/7, lovely isn't it;-)
First time I have seen the article which has a huge mistake in it. Herbert claims the PL allegation is that “Abu Dhabi” has pumped in millions of petrol dollars to cover City’s sponsorships. The allegation is that Sheikh Mansour himself funded shortfalls in our sponsor income from the state companies Etihad and Etislat. It is the complete opposite. He doesn’t even know what the case is about.
 
Daily Fail, yet again.
Former Man Utd star labelled ‘the footballer who could fly’ dies aged 83.

Wyn Davis played 611 games in his career, SIXTEEN of which were for them.
181 for Newcastle
155 for Bolton
55 for Wrexham
55 for Crewe
45 for City
36 for Blackpool
30 for Stockport
16 for the Rags

Anyone in football who doubts how the media in general and journalists in particular work just need to read that headline…
You mean because he didn’t call them ‘the Rags’?
 

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