Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

The Future’s Blue! said:
Can we confirm that the UK military are conducting sorties for what you say?

Why are the UK military conducting these missions, are you saying that the UK military are complicit in what Israel are doing in Palestine?
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Oh, sorry. They're still looking for the hostages, right? Our Governments, past and present, are active participants in the Genocide.

Not just us, but that doesn't excuse what they have done.
 
Don Karleone said:
Oh, sorry. They're still looking for the hostages, right? Our Governments, past and present, are active participants in the Genocide.

Not just us, but that doesn't excuse what they have done.
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Right. So the UK military are complicit.

Can you confirm why they are doing the sorties as it seems to be getting the opposite reaction, winding Starmer and Macron up, seeing those poor people in Gaza.

If, what you say is true, surely the governement criticising this wouldn’t be, errrr, criticising this?

RAF flight goes over Gaza, shows scenes of devastation, UK government nails into Israel, but said government continues to pass intel on to Israel to target said devastated areas?

Complete nonsense I’m afraid, and just another conspiracy theory drawn up by those that want to take aim.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Right. So the UK military are complicit.

Can you confirm why they are doing the sorties as it seems to be getting the opposite reaction, winding Starmer and Macron up, seeing those poor people in Gaza.

If, what you say is true, surely the governement criticising this wouldn’t be, errrr, criticising this?

RAF flight goes over Gaza, shows scenes of devastation, UK government nails into Israel, but said government continues to pass intel on to Israel to target said devastated areas?

Complete nonsense I’m afraid, and just another conspiracy theory drawn up by those that want to take aim.
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What are the flights for then, pretty pictures of the rubble?

If Starmer and Macron actually cared, this would have been stopped a long time ago.
 
OnlyOneUweRosler said:
Bigger question is what does Iran do from here? Its Axis of Resistance has been decapitated over the last year or so. Without Hezbollah/Hamas/Houthis, Iran loses its ability to hit Israel itself. Missile exchanges proved that Israel can hit Iran more or less at will, while Iranian missiles are much less effective. However, as long as Iran remains a theocracy, its rulers will always want the bomb and/or a mean to harm Israel.
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errr no its not - the biggest question is the starvation genocide of women and kids in Gaza - look at your tv the first ting is to NOT starve kids - or are you happy to park that and drone on about Iran?
 
Blue Maverick said:
Israel has turned into what they despised the most, I make no apologies for calling them the new Nazis, they are literally doing what was done to the Jews in WW2. It’s about time every fucker called them out, yes October 7th was horrific but this is an extermination pure and simple, shame on anyone who supports this.
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Zionists have backed Israel into a corner. Over the weekend we will see hundred + deaths from starvation - hundreds lead to thousands leading to tens of thousands but they cannot allow aid agencies in or foreign press because that will expose their lies but when the last Gazan starves to death the will have run out of road.

There are people - some even on here - who argue more over semantics and the G word whilst overlooking the facts.


 
Gorton_Tubster said:
@Mods Can we rename this thread. The "Middle East Massacre" please. Or just Gazan Genocide maybe more apt.

It isnt a conflict anymore.
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Wouldn't cover it when israel bombs Iran or occupies Syria or Lebanon.

Wouldnt even cover the Israeli atrocities in the West bank, which they voted to annex yesterday by the way, not that western media deemed that worthy enough to report on:

"“Annexation of Judea and Samaria is a clear danger to the future of the state of Israel and the Zionist enterprise,” Democrats MK Gilad Kariv posted on X, calling the motion “a smokescreen for abandoning the hostages [held by Hamas in Gaza] and advancing an evasion law.”

 
Gorton_Tubster said:
@Mods Can we rename this thread. The "Middle East Massacre" please. Or just Gazan Genocide maybe more apt.

It isnt a conflict anymore.
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How about the famine in Gaza
The Future’s Blue! said:
Right. So the UK military are complicit.

Can you confirm why they are doing the sorties as it seems to be getting the opposite reaction, winding Starmer and Macron up, seeing those poor people in Gaza.

If, what you say is true, surely the governement criticising this wouldn’t be, errrr, criticising this?

RAF flight goes over Gaza, shows scenes of devastation, UK government nails into Israel, but said government continues to pass intel on to Israel to target said devastated areas?

Complete nonsense I’m afraid, and just another conspiracy theory drawn up by those that want to take aim.
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Rory Stewart states RAF planes still fly over Gaza and worst of all we continue to train the IDF soldiers :(
How can Lammy accurately describe “86% of Gaza” has been bulldozed, he couldn’t know that unless we were keeping an eye on the invasion.?
Every day we send a spy plane round Ukraine observing the carnage Russia has wrought on them.
Making the assumption that we pass intelligence to Israel or Russia is a step too far but observation of a conflict would be in our own best interest.


France tonight has said it will recognise the state of Palestine in September thank you France and the French people. :):)
The photos tonight on Sky of starvation in the hospital are horrendous it has to stop, Hamas have to give the hostages back
 
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Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer is to hold an emergency phone call with French and German leaders today on the situation in Gaza.

French President Emmanuel Macron yesterday laid out his intention to recognise a Palestinian state within months.
 
M18CTID said:
I find it baffling why they haven’t done it, despite now being in office for 12 months.
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Obviously didn’t want to go it alone. Suspect we will now do it now Macron and France have shown some balls.

My post wasn’t a dig at Starmer BTW, fair play to having it in the manifesto, as @inchy14 said above should have been done long ago. Let’s see how they (France etc) change policy once it becomes official.
 
inbetween said:
The government has said exactly what they're used for, they're used to assist in locating hostages. They're likely gathering signals data from Hamas operatives who may for example be talking on radios and giving away the location of the hostages. This will be passed onto the Israeli's who will I guess action it as they see fit.

Hamas are a proscribed terrorist organisation in the UK, Hamas leaders are wanted for war crimes and arrest warrants were issued by the ICC because taking hostages is itself a war crime. Hamas operatives are therefore arguably legitimate military targets just as much as ISIS operatives were.

Obviously Israel are doing terrible things aside from this but the fact is we're not helping them to do those things. It's hard to see why they would need our help because it isn't hard to locate Gaza on a map.
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