Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

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Yeah but show me the genocidal intent
 
.... There's also a case for saying it's Hamas who aren't allowing aid in, in order to put pressure on Israel....
No there isn't. There's no evidence of that. Only Israeli officials spouting their usual propaganda trying to deflect the blame. As the occupying force, its up to Israel to ensure aid is provided to the civilian population in the territory it controls.

 
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The government has said exactly what they're used for, they're used to assist in locating hostages. They're likely gathering signals data from Hamas operatives who may for example be talking on radios and giving away the location of the hostages. This will be passed onto the Israeli's who will I guess action it as they see fit.

Hamas are a proscribed terrorist organisation in the UK, Hamas leaders are wanted for war crimes and arrest warrants were issued by the ICC because taking hostages is itself a war crime. Hamas operatives are therefore arguably legitimate military targets just as much as ISIS operatives were.

Obviously Israel are doing terrible things aside from this but the fact is we're not helping them to do those things. It's hard to see why they would need our help because it isn't hard to locate Gaza on a map.
Nicely pointed out. I think most understand that but there are some who are inferring that we are basically finding out where the civilians are located and telling the Israelis where to target.

Not sure if they are conspiracy theorists or just those who want to attack the government.
 
bbc news item today about those ghoulish viewing platforms where Israelis can watch real-time genocide have now installed vending machines so they don’t get thirsty or hungry while enjoying the view at the far end of the lens. This is just not normal human behaviour.
 
bbc news item today about those ghoulish viewing platforms where Israelis can watch real-time genocide have now installed vending machines so they don’t get thirsty or hungry while enjoying the view at the far end of the lens. This is just not normal human behaviour.

it is if you are not a normal human
 
What does the rest of the world do if there's no help to stop this from the USA? If they support annexation of the West Bank? Steal all the Palestinians' land there?
 
What does the rest of the world do if there's no help to stop this from the USA? If they support annexation of the West Bank? Steal all the Palestinians' land there?
There is absolutely nothing anyone can do while the yanks are assisting the Genocide. The poll numbers are through the roof over the pond to stop all this from the American people. It's the cunts who are paid millions from the Israeli Lobbyist who are to blame. That's both sides of the house too. Republicans & Democrats.
 
There is absolutely nothing anyone can do while the yanks are assisting the Genocide. The poll numbers are through the roof over the pond to stop all this from the American people. It's the cunts who are paid millions from the Israeli Lobbyist who are to blame. That's both sides of the house too. Republicans & Democrats.
You are completely right that nobody other than the US can stop this while all the others are pissing I the wind. We, as others, have been strong in the condemnation of what Israel have done, but do they listen?

Says to me that a small country like Israel has so much clout that nobody else in the world can compete when it comes to influence.
 
What does the rest of the world do if there's no help to stop this from the USA? If they support annexation of the West Bank? Steal all the Palestinians' land there?
What could we do ? It’s bothered me from the evil grin on Netanyahu face when Trump gave him the green light.
Trump has been backing Israel and Russia from the start he is as evil as Netanyahu if not more so because the USA are responsible for arming Israel.
 
“The UK set to air drop food aid according to sky news, I think it’s to little too late the damage has been done. We can never bring back the people who died or the suffering the people have endured. For weeks the hospitals have been overrun with people shot trying to retrieve food and we ignored Gaza
 
From the Trump thread.

I'm still trying to get my head round what he's saying here.

What is it he thinks will happen if Hamas release the remaining hostages (to explain why Hamas are not releasing them)? That the IDF will go home, or "finish the job". What's the job, eliminating Hamas or eliminating all Gazans? (Then Palestinians in the West Bank.)

says the quiet bit loud

 
From the beginning I thought Hamas' attack would sow the seeds of Israel's destruction

Apparently, hatred of Palestinians is at an all time high and this despite what their own army is doing to unarmed civilians. They've completely lost any sort of ethical compass. The country has been overtaken by it's very own version of MAGA so while it may continue in form it will be a very different sort of Israel to that envisioned by the progressives of the 70s and 80s.
 
Are they? Including Republicans?
This is from a few weeks ago when CNN did a big segment on the figures. Starts about 50 seconds in. Theve gone up even more to as the starvation of Palestinians gets worse. The Democrat shift is unbelievable. Even Republicans are opening their eyes.

 
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