President Trump

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I would posit there are two reasons

1 - He's implicated
2 - Powerful allies or friends of him are implicated

There are no other reasonable explanations are there

It’s perfectly conceivable that’s it both.

 

[Truesilverblue]

Implicated in what ?

 

[flook]

See, even Pudge has made the same mistake. Interchanging file with list. There is an Epstein file. The claim is that there is no list of powerful people that Epstein kept as a 'get out of jail' blackmail card.
But Pudge isn't a lawyer ( i presume) and certainly not an AG who should be far more careful and specific.

On the other hand, that Clinton went 28 times is neither here nor there by the way. It may be suggestive, but it isn't proof of actual foul play.

Aren't the terms "list" and "file" somewhat interchangeable here? I mean that if there is an Epstein file, surely it contains names which would in itself constitute a "list", albeit one which is spread throughout numerous documents. Making a distinction between the two as a form of defence as you are doing is somewhat disingenuous.

Tell you what, let's call them the Epstein documents.

So Dax, why hasn't shitgibbon released the Epstein documents?

 

[flook]

It’s perfectly conceivable that’s it both.

TBH I think it's pretty much nailed on it's both

 

[Vic]

I read that and immediately thought he was talking about the Israelis. No hostages reduces the justification for what they are doing. Genocide or ethnic cleansing or whatever you want to call it.

At the very least it's projection onto Hamas, imho.

Wrong thread, though.

What? Isn't he talking about Israel finishing the job?

 

[Brewster's millions]

I read that and immediately thought he was talking about the Israelis. No hostages reduces the justification for what they are doing. Genocide or ethnic cleansing or whatever you want to call it.

At the very least it's projection onto Hamas, imho.

Wrong thread, though.

I’m sure Hamas would be gutted if they though someone was projecting on to them, implying that they’d do bad things if given the chance.

I expect they’d be outraged by the very thought of it.

 

[Blue Maverick]

It should amaze me but doesn’t, Trump was spouting on about releasing the files he surely must have known he was in them, he’s either stupid as fuck or naive to think he wasn’t or did he just simply think once in power he could forget it all, he’s not read the room with MAGA though, I think they will come for him now.

 

[noseve]

Honestly though - considering the apparent lack of integrity of this administration - does anybody seriously believe that whatever documentation there is has been just sitting there, unedited?

Inconceivable, surely?

And @Dax777 - if Clinton's there, he's a filthy nonce as well and should be prosecuted along with everybody else. Not one person on here would want anything else. You're not on Truth Social now.

 

[lloydie]

See, even Pudge has made the same mistake. Interchanging file with list. There is an Epstein file. The claim is that there is no list of powerful people that Epstein kept as a 'get out of jail' blackmail card.
But Pudge isn't a lawyer ( i presume) and certainly not an AG who should be far more careful and specific.

On the other hand, that Clinton went 28 times is neither here nor there by the way. It may be suggestive, but it isn't proof of actual foul play.

If there’s a file someone will have made a list and it will be on the file.
I know you’re a bit dense but fucking hell.

 

[Dax777]

Aren't the terms "list" and "file" somewhat interchangeable here? I mean that if there is an Epstein file, surely it contains names which would in itself constitute a "list", albeit one which is spread throughout numerous documents. Making a distinction between the two as a form of defence as you are doing is somewhat disingenuous.

Yikes! Someone earlier said Bondi claimed she jad the list but later backtracked and claimed she meant the file.

The person asked whether anyone ever refers to the 'list' as 'file'. His argument being that its not possible to conflate the two

I pointed out that she was asked about the 'Epstein list' but her answer in totality could fairly suggest she was talking about the Epstein file when she answered.

Of course the Epstein files will contain names. But by 'Epstein list' is what we want. And by list we mean "the guilty people" Epstein secured underage girls for. That's who we want

Tell you what, let's call them the Epstein documents.

So Dax, why hasn't shitgibbon released the Epstein documents?

I think if you go back the last few pages. Youd find multiple suggestions as to what might be the reason.

That said, they've now interviewed Epstein's accomplise and she'll potentially testify to Congress and name names.

Funny enough, I've seen s few 'blue-anon" theorists already making excuses. They are claiming she'll finger a bunch of Democrats sprinkled with a few high and powerful but probably absolve Trump. In hopes of securing a lesser sentence and thus we can't trust her testimony because she has alterior motives..

In other words, the 'brace for impact' has been engaged.

 

[Dax777]

Honestly though - considering the apparent lack of integrity of this administration - does anybody seriously believe that whatever documentation there is has been just sitting there, unedited?

Inconceivable, surely?

And @Dax777 - if Clinton's there, he's a filthy nonce as well and should be prosecuted along with everybody else. Not one person on here would want anything else. You're not on Truth Social now.

Evidence. That's what matters
Not insinuations. I dont care there's direct evidence of Clinton, Trump or the Pope. The point is evidence.


But o see you ate already hedging :) You are not going to trust the evidence. Shocking!

 

[noseve]

Evidence. That's what matters
Not insinuations. I dont care there's direct evidence of Clinton, Trump or the Pope. The point is evidence.


But o see you ate already hedging :) You are not going to trust the evidence. Shocking!

You do make the most ridiculous leaps/assumptions.

This is not about whether there is evidence or not, not yet at least.

It's about this administration pulling a 180⁰. That's the entire conversation at this stage.

 

[moomba]

he’s either stupid as fuck

I think you might have cracked the case.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

It’s perfectly conceivable that’s it both.

Here's another slightly different take on it.

Both points @flook made are 99.9% likely true.

However, here's the difference - Trump knows who else is in the files and to what level they are involved. This gives him a huge amount of leverage to extort the rich and powerful, and believe me, this **** will use it to his advantage.

You're now wondering if he'll approach the subject with Charlie when he meets him at Windsor Castle? You fucking bet he will. And not only royalty, but the likes of Gates, Clinton and a host of other rich, famous and influential people are in those files, including US politicians on both sides of the aisle. He's practically bullet proof unless someone has the balls to do the right thing.

 

[SWP's back]

In fairness, the claim about resorting to insult wasn't about your post. It was about the prior post. I just responded to you since you asked a question and the other guy simply wanted to insult.

You’re only worthy of insult at this stage.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

If there’s a file someone will have made a list and it will be on the file.
I know you’re a bit dense but fucking hell.

When you can't legitimately defend something, try semantics and wordplay. Most idiots will fall for it.

 

[halfcenturyup]

What? Isn't he talking about Israel finishing the job?

Yes, but I thought initially he was talking about the Israelis not wanting to have the hostages returned because they would then know what happens: loss of support for their action.

Anyway, as I say, wrong thread.

 

[BlueHammer85]

It should amaze me but doesn’t, Trump was spouting on about releasing the files he surely must have known he was in them, he’s either stupid as fuck or naive to think he wasn’t or did he just simply think once in power he could forget it all, he’s not read the room with MAGA though, I think they will come for him now.

Which shows how pathetic the MAGA crowd are, they don’t give a sh*t about the situation in Gaza, Russia/Ukraine, Climate Change etc and all the awful hate and division that Trump comes out with - it’s whether his on the Epstein list or not. That’s all that matters. Morons.

 

[west didsblue]

It should amaze me but doesn’t, Trump was spouting on about releasing the files he surely must have known he was in them, he’s either stupid as fuck or naive to think he wasn’t or did he just simply think once in power he could forget it all, he’s not read the room with MAGA though, I think they will come for him now.

Probably thought he could scribble out his own name with a sharpie and no one would ever know.

 

[pudge]

Evidence. That's what matters

And the price of eggs, surely?