Tino Livramento

Coatigan said:
Signing Trafford makes no difference, as he takes up one of the Club Trained spots, rather than either HG or NHG.

One of Ortega or Ederson leaving does free up a NGH surplus place though.

As a reminder.

The limits are 17+4+4 NHG HG CT.

We are currently 21+4+2. Means we can add Trafford, but are still at limit for HG and 4 over on NHG. For another HG player to come, one needs to leave. Or 5 NHG need to leave, because once you have 4, the 5th counts as NHG and takes up one of the 17 spaces limit.

For the CL, which is what the club builds to. In the PL the limit is 17+8, with no distinction between CT and HG, but the club have never previously set up that way with a surplus of senior players omitted from the CL.
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Ta mate :)
 
Coatigan said:
Another worthwhile distinction between the two competitions to bear in mind.

In both, U21 players don't count towards the 25 man squad. In the PL an u21 player is simply a player who is U21 in the relevant season. In the CL, an U21 player has to have been with the club at least two years, to count as U21/ B-list.

So the likes of Reis and Echeverri are fine in the PL, but in the CL take up a NHG squad space.

But this is nothing new, we had that with Zinchenko, Jesus, Balotelli, etc. None were left out of the CL squad, we just went with fewer players in the NHG category to include them.

Most often when we had 5 or more HG players, we then had 16 or less NHG players. So eventhough we were under the 17 limit, we were at limit overall. If that makes sense.

One thing is certain, as long as the club have neen in the CL, our squads have always been built to meet that criteria. Don't see that changing this year, myself.
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cheers so if we comply with uefa we also comply with the premier league
 
colesy said:
Yes I don’t think we are miles behind either, I believe last season would have been totally different if we didn’t lose our Ballon D’Or winning midfielder almost immediately, add to that the minutes lost by a massive percentage of our squad, with KDB, Diaz, Eddie, Ake, Stones, Foden, Grealish, Bobb and Haaland all being out for extended periods. Liverpool had very few injuries, when they did suffer with a few injuries on 22/23, they came 5th.
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It’s about time 33 year old Salah and van Dijk picked up a few knocks that keeps them out of big games isn’t it.
 
colesy said:
Yes I don’t think we are miles behind either, I believe last season would have been totally different if we didn’t lose our Ballon D’Or winning midfielder almost immediately, add to that the minutes lost by a massive percentage of our squad, with KDB, Diaz, Eddie, Ake, Stones, Foden, Grealish, Bobb and Haaland all being out for extended periods. Liverpool had very few injuries, when they did suffer with a few injuries on 22/23, they came 5th.
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This obvious & burning issue was that a team like City shouldn't be so dependent on one player. Rodri...

As fans & pundits marvelled at KDB, Haaland & Foden, warnings were sounded by many City fans that it was in fact Rodri who was the glue that gelled everything together. Lose Rodri & City lost the metronome & protector who made us tick.

It still baffles me why the Professionals who run our club didn't have adequate competition, back up & quality rotation for our most important player. We paid the cost for that neglect...
 
jrb said:
Newcastle have PSR issues.

Isak can force a move all he wants.

He is tide to a 3 year contract at Newcastle.

Do you think the Saudis and PIF are worried about not holding him to his 3 year contract?

I don't think they are.

If they say he stays, he stays and gets on playing for Newcastle.

That has happened on numerous occasions with players at other clubs.
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Or they say a Saudi club can have him for £150m
Then anyone else can match it or fuck off
If dippers pay that then let him go
He is decent but fuck me there’s a lack of top class strikers out there
 
Within the 100+ pages, has there ever actually been any concrete link? This seems like there's fuck all to it
 
Coatigan said:
We have no lack of homegrown players.

In fact, one needs to leave for one to arrive, in the homegrown category. And 4 need to leave from the non homegrown category regardless.
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100% fale. A club can have a team made up completely of players trained at English clubs, aka home grown. There is no maximum limit to what you may have.
 
Xhavenjoe said:
They bought Livramento for the best part of £40m not so long ago.
He's a young talent they want to keep.
Same with Isak.
A good run in this years CL is what they need.
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I highly doubt they would get a good run tbh even if they kept all their players. Their squad already lacks quality in numbers, the burn out would be terrible
 
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