Liverpool Thread | 2025/26

[Vienna_70]

I exhibit plenty.
I'm 56.

A mere child, by FOC standards.

 

[Tracking back]

In what way was it far weaker?
Why are the so called top clubs buying players from clubs that played, in your view, in a far weaker league, going to make them stronger this season?
So it didn't surprise you, city's form? you foresaw all the injuries?
You have no idea what Arne Slot thinks. So what you believe is only what you are telling yourself. I don't claim to know what he thinks either. I am not clairvoyant or telepathic.
Your post comes across as rather emotional rather than filled with reasoning.
From my perspective.

I don't need to know what Arne Slot thinks.

He said it himself "this is a very competitive league"

He doesn't know the meaning of competitive if he thinks last season was tough. If he was competing against Pep over the past five season do you honestly think Slot could have accumulated 98 - 100 points under the kind of pressure Klopp had to face?

And if you knew me, you would know emotions don't come into it as far as I'm concerned.

I leave that quality to those fine folks on Merseyside.

 

[bridgeno1]

I think gameweek 3 is Arsenal vs Liverpool at Anfield. Will be an interesting game as both sides will still be integrating players (new signings) into their starting XI.

From what I've heard from Arsenal sources on social media the signing of Gyokeres is causing a rethink in tactics. He has struggled in training with playing between the lines (like how Havertz plays) but apparently has been absolutely lethal when Arsenal have been getting the ball wide and then into the box rapidly.

Obviously all hearsay as it's social media sources but it seems we will be forced to play a bit more directly than last season.

 

[Tracking back]

The problem managers like Klopp and Slot have is that once the pressure builds (which it inevitability does with the British media) they tend to fold under it.

Take last season for example: the media were pissing their pants in the hope of Liverpool completing the quadruple. We've heard this for a few seasons now, phrases like; the "Quad Squad" and "Mentality Monsters"

The reality is Slot won the premier league in what has been the least competitive campaign in over six years.

Pellegrini won the double in his first season at City and it was reported by the media as though it was an everyday occurrence.

 

[slotter]

I don't need to know what Arne Slot thinks.

He said it himself "this is a very competitive league"

He doesn't know the meaning of competitive if he thinks last season was tough. If he was competing against Pep over the past five season do you honestly think Slot could have accumulated 98 - 100 points under the kind of pressure Klopp had to face?

And if you knew me, you would know emotions don't come into it as far as I'm concerned.

I leave that quality to those fine folks on Merseyside.

Competitive is subjective.

Last season on the whole the league was very competitive. Hence there was no dominant force collecting 90+ points.
Arne Slot was talking about the fact that teams play from start to finish and that a lot of games the scores are fine margins. W don't win by 3,4 or 5 goals. I remember him talking about that. It was also something about us not making games more comfortable - taking out chances. (iirc) The quality of player in the lower table sides is still high quality.
To take just a quote, is very much, what the clickbait media / gutter press, that the city fanbase in general despise, do.

it is quite revisionist that you mention Pep and Klopp as if pressure never affects them. They have lost their shit on many occasions and not just when managing in England.

I saw many on here and other places stating the if slot wins the league it shows what a shite manager klopp was! that we'd have won more without him.
Now slot is shite?

 

[mexico1970]

Klopp commenting on the CAS verdict as "Bad for football" shown me what an absolute **** he was, no amount of dumbing what he is down will ever change that.

He can genuinely, really fuck off and I can't wait for Pep to break Slot in the same way.

 

[its grim up north]

In what way was it far weaker?
Why are the so called top clubs buying players from clubs that played, in your view, in a far weaker league, going to make them stronger this season?
So it didn't surprise you, city's form? you foresaw all the injuries?
You have no idea what Arne Slot thinks. So what you believe is only what you are telling yourself. I don't claim to know what he thinks either. I am not clairvoyant or telepathic.
Your post comes across as rather emotional rather than filled with reasoning.
From my perspective.

Basically your two main rivals us and Arse were 20 and 15 points down on the 23/24 season, and 18 and 10 down on the 22/23 season. Maybe not weaker ,but a darn sight more comfortable for you. Slot, had a very comfortable time of it and still served 2 touchline bans for inappropriate behaviour. Pep destroyed Klipperty, I can see Slot getting more and more agitated. Not retaining the title after spending 300 million would have to go down as the worst title defence in the history of football.

 

[alexmcity]

Competitive is subjective.

Last season on the whole the league was very competitive. Hence there was no dominant force collecting 90+ points.
Arne Slot was talking about the fact that teams play from start to finish and that a lot of games the scores are fine margins. W don't win by 3,4 or 5 goals. I remember him talking about that. It was also something about us not making games more comfortable - taking out chances. (iirc) The quality of player in the lower table sides is still high quality.
To take just a quote, is very much, what the clickbait media / gutter press, that the city fanbase in general despise, do.

it is quite revisionist that you mention Pep and Klopp as if pressure never affects them. They have lost their shit on many occasions and not just when managing in England.

I saw many on here and other places stating the if slot wins the league it shows what a shite manager klopp was! that we'd have won more without him.
Now slot is shite?

The league wasn't very competitive in terms of title chasing: City had many injuries, including a very bad to Rodri, City's equivalent of VVD or Salah in terms of importance. Arsenal had more injuries than usual: Saka, Gabriel, Havertz...

Many think that if Rodri comes back and plays regularly, City are good enough to reach 88+ pts again.

 

[waspish]

Competitive is subjective.

Last season on the whole the league was very competitive. Hence there was no dominant force collecting 90+ points.
Arne Slot was talking about the fact that teams play from start to finish and that a lot of games the scores are fine margins. W don't win by 3,4 or 5 goals. I remember him talking about that. It was also something about us not making games more comfortable - taking out chances. (iirc) The quality of player in the lower table sides is still high quality.
To take just a quote, is very much, what the clickbait media / gutter press, that the city fanbase in general despise, do.

it is quite revisionist that you mention Pep and Klopp as if pressure never affects them. They have lost their shit on many occasions and not just when managing in England.

I saw many on here and other places stating the if slot wins the league it shows what a shite manager klopp was! that we'd have won more without him.
Now slot is shite?

Was competitive but you had no one up your arse in the money time! Arsenal dropped of and if anyone expect us to not have down season they are deluded coming of the back of what we have done under pep last 8 years! Salah was your joker as always his stats and consistency are unbelievable! Think Wirts will get the numbers salah will or will it be a season that it doesn’t!? Your in a transitional season as well as is us..

 

[Manc in London]

I think gameweek 3 is Arsenal vs Liverpool at Anfield. Will be an interesting game as both sides will still be integrating players (new signings) into their starting XI.

From what I've heard from Arsenal sources on social media the signing of Gyokeres is causing a rethink in tactics. He has struggled in training with playing between the lines (like how Havertz plays) but apparently has been absolutely lethal when Arsenal have been getting the ball wide and then into the box rapidly.

Obviously all hearsay as it's social media sources but it seems we will be forced to play a bit more directly than last season.

Sounds like some of the issues we sometimes had with Dzeko.

 

[Tracking back]

Competitive is subjective.

Last season on the whole the league was very competitive. Hence there was no dominant force collecting 90+ points.
Arne Slot was talking about the fact that teams play from start to finish and that a lot of games the scores are fine margins. W don't win by 3,4 or 5 goals. I remember him talking about that. It was also something about us not making games more comfortable - taking out chances. (iirc) The quality of player in the lower table sides is still high quality.
To take just a quote, is very much, what the clickbait media / gutter press, that the city fanbase in general despise, do.

it is quite revisionist that you mention Pep and Klopp as if pressure never affects them. They have lost their shit on many occasions and not just when managing in England.

I saw many on here and other places stating the if slot wins the league it shows what a shite manager klopp was! that we'd have won more without him.
Now slot is shite?

We are never going to agree on this point.

I just don't see slot winning the league with Pep up his arse or being a few points ahead of Liverpool.

On of the reasons it was a low points title win for Slot last season is more to do with MCFC being off the pace, than the competitive nature of other teams.

When we were picking up 98, 99 and 100 points to compete for the title with Klopp the other eighteen teams no doubt believed the league to be competitive.

The point I'm making is that if Slot thought last season was competitive it's going to be fascinating to see what he makes of this season.

 

[slotter]

The league wasn't very competitive in terms of title chasing: City had many injuries, including a very bad to Rodri, City's equivalent of VVD or Salah in terms of importance. Arsenal had more injuries than usual: Saka, Gabriel, Havertz...

Many think that if Rodri comes back and plays regularly, City are good enough to reach 88+ pts again.

Was competitive but you had no one up your arse in the money time! Arsenal dropped of and if anyone expect us to not have down season they are deluded coming of the back of what we have done under pep last 8 years! Salah was your joker as always his stats and consistency are unbelievable! Think Wirts will get the numbers salah will or will it be a season that it doesn’t!? Your in a transitional season as well as is us..

I fully recognize the injury situation with city. I've posted previously that you could do with a top quality CD who is ready to play in the first team. Ease the others back in gently.
Will Rodri reach the same level as before? I think so.
Some say you had a season off. like it was voluntary and planned. City were going well until November. Injuries, Age and Fatigue all came together. Some of the signings didn't work out in recent years, if they had, you'd have coped better. I think Nunes is a fabulous player and Kalvin Phillips looked like a no brainer. The former will be much better in a more settled side and not playing at full back!

Arsenal refused to sign anyone in the winter window as a striker but still reached the semis of the champions league. What are Arsenal though? they spent 105m on Declan Rice and it looked like they meant business but then they have quickly become a club that appears to think , not losing, is winning.

I agree there wasn't a sustained challenge. A team still needs to have a good focus to go an win the league because one can become complacent and get dragged back into the melee.

I am not delusional. On the whole the title 'race' wasn't exciting for the neutral. When city won it with 100 points was there a race? did you care? i bet not one iota!

Last season is done. It is over. No one knows what will happen this season. We could all be left pissing into the wind and Chelsea run away with it!

Wish you both the best of fortune.

 

[KentBlue]

Last season on the whole the league was very competitive.

No. No it wasn't. We were exhausted and without Rodders for most of it, and a lot of players were nearing the end of their time here. Arse and a few others fucked up so you basically had no competition. You had the new manager bounce, and thanks to David Coote you had the protection of the officials. Slot had Bingo's squad and Salad was having another extraordinary season in front of goal. All the cards fell for the dippers last season, let's not kid ourselves otherwise.
And now a new season is about to kick off and things are going to be very very different for Slot. Bedding in new players doesn't happen in a few days, that is common knowledge, but with the amount of money you have splashed out you'd better hope their settling in period is a lot quicker than usual, because the press will start on Slot, of that you can be sure. And what will happen if you fail to make much progress in the cups? Or what if by New Year you're not 20-odd points ahead of the pack?

We know what pressure is, we know how to stay alert and fight every second the ball is in play, you lot don't. The same as Arteta. If you're 0-2 down in the 89th minute Salad will throw a wobbler: a few others will down tools and and the lack of discipline takes over resulting in some cards being shown.
Face it, Slot's honeymoon period is over. With the money you've spent you'd better be chasing every single point and every single cup game that you can - or it will get a bit uncomfortable for Slot.

 

[alexmcity]

I fully recognize the injury situation with city. I've posted previously that you could do with a top quality CD who is ready to play in the first team. Ease the others back in gently.
Will Rodri reach the same level as before? I think so.
Some say you had a season off. like it was voluntary and planned. City were going well until November. Injuries, Age and Fatigue all came together. Some of the signings didn't work out in recent years, if they had, you'd have coped better. I think Nunes is a fabulous player and Kalvin Phillips looked like a no brainer. The former will be much better in a more settled side and not playing at full back!

Arsenal refused to sign anyone in the winter window as a striker but still reached the semis of the champions league. What are Arsenal though? they spent 105m on Declan Rice and it looked like they meant business but then they have quickly become a club that appears to think , not losing, is winning.

I agree there wasn't a sustained challenge. A team still needs to have a good focus to go an win the league because one can become complacent and get dragged back into the melee.

I am not delusional. On the whole the title 'race' wasn't exciting for the neutral. When city won it with 100 points was there a race? did you care? i bet not one iota!

Last season is done. It is over. No one knows what will happen this season. We could all be left pissing into the wind and Chelsea run away with it!

Wish you both the best of fortune.

That's very reasonable. Nunes isn't a fabulous player, but he isn't bad either. Nobody knows about Rodri. But I think City will be better than expected.

 

[Tracking back]

I am not delusional. On the whole the title 'race' wasn't exciting for the neutral. When city won it with 100 points was there a race? did you care? i bet not one iota!

Last season is done. It is over. No one knows what will happen this season. We could all be left pissing into the wind and Chelsea run away with it!

Wish you both the best of fortune.

To be fair.

Im sure we (MCFC fans) can be forgiven for not caring one iota that season.

Let's face it, most of us have had to endure the torture of watching the title race going down to literally the last kick of the season.

As good a spectacle that might be for the "Brand" I for one haven't got the blood pressure for it.

 

[waspish]

History shows Liverpool only 2 premier league wins is when there was no one putting the pressure on up there arse and until they win a tight Challenge and win by 1 or 2 points or on goal difference they’ll be a question mark under it for me..

 

[its grim up north]

I fully recognize the injury situation with city. I've posted previously that you could do with a top quality CD who is ready to play in the first team. Ease the others back in gently.
Will Rodri reach the same level as before? I think so.
Some say you had a season off. like it was voluntary and planned. City were going well until November. Injuries, Age and Fatigue all came together. Some of the signings didn't work out in recent years, if they had, you'd have coped better. I think Nunes is a fabulous player and Kalvin Phillips looked like a no brainer. The former will be much better in a more settled side and not playing at full back!

Arsenal refused to sign anyone in the winter window as a striker but still reached the semis of the champions league. What are Arsenal though? they spent 105m on Declan Rice and it looked like they meant business but then they have quickly become a club that appears to think , not losing, is winning.

I agree there wasn't a sustained challenge. A team still needs to have a good focus to go an win the league because one can become complacent and get dragged back into the melee.

I am not delusional. On the whole the title 'race' wasn't exciting for the neutral. When city won it with 100 points was there a race? did you care? i bet not one iota!

Last season is done. It is over. No one knows what will happen this season. We could all be left pissing into the wind and Chelsea run away with it!

Wish you both the best of fortune.

No, it wasn't a race that year. Yes we didn't care winning it with 4 or 5 games to play. And do you know why? Because we stayed focused and achieved. We achieved something that no other team in the history of the 20 team competition had. We scored 100points. Lost only 14 points all season. You focused on losing 14 points over your last 4 or 5 matches. Spot the difference.

 

[Tracking back]

Klopp commenting on the CAS verdict as "Bad for football" shown me what an absolute **** he was, no amount of dumbing what he is down will ever change that.

He can genuinely, really fuck off and I can't wait for Pep to break Slot in the same way.

This cannot be expressed strongly enough just how wrong he was to say that.

You keep that shit to yourself.

I've no doubt he went down considerably in some people's opinion of him.

I understand why he said it: because he was a media whore who had an ego the size of the river Mersey and he craved the adoration of the Liverpool fans.

The reality is that it was a crass statement, a cheap shot at his rivals and down right unprofessional.

The correct response should have been "It's not my place to discuss or make comments on other clubs"

 

[slotter]

That's very reasonable. Nunes isn't a fabulous player, but he isn't bad either. Nobody knows about Rodri. But I think City will be better than expected.

What i saw of Nunes at wolves. I was a huge admirer. He would just bully opposition off the ball and turn defence into attack. I did hope that we would sign him.

My thoughts on Rodri are based on VVD, Danny Ings x2 and Joe Gomez possibly x2. I feel like i am missing someone! In the 90s an ACL was a career ender (don't think ronaldo was ACL - could be wrong) and my first recollection of someone recovering from it was van horseface 2002 ish and since him the recovery rate has got quicker and more reliable. It is the mental side which would be an issue with the average joe.

 

[slotter]

No, it wasn't a race that year. Yes we didn't care winning it with 4 or 5 games to play. And do you know why? Because we stayed focused and achieved. We achieved something that no other team in the history of the 20 team competition had. We scored 100points. Lost only 14 points all season. You focused on losing 14 points over your last 4 or 5 matches. Spot the difference.

I personally don't care about the number of points we collect during a title winning season. Winning the league is all that matters.
IF we got to 21 league titles by getting to 74 points or less in a season before the scum win another title - I will be ecstatic!