PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[bobbyowenquiff]

In any other industry, this delay would be unacceptable and unheard of.

It is routine for the legal profession in all aspects both civil and criminal. The system is a shambles. To be fair the City case is more complex than many other legal battles.

 

[deano ou812]

Even Daniel Levy seems weary of it all now, and he was probably one of the ones pushing for us to be charged.

Of course needs to be brought to a conclusion for the good of the game,was he thinking like this when they ganged up and pushed the whole 115 in the first place fuck off you snide cnut,I hope we get these fuckers in the long run ..

 

[dadnlad]

Yeah see that? but why didnt Neville bring up cas that cleared us? Why certain clubs went after Man City with these charges only on a hunch or hacked emails to one of there members!? It’s always one sided for me! No one defending us or putting any of our points forward in a interviews to one, for me instigator's for these charges to be brought against us!

just maybe he also believes ( hopes ) were guilty

 

[waspish]

just maybe he also believes ( hopes ) were guilty

On what evidence? His subliminal hatred of Man City or Arabs? The mind set seems different for American owners who are fine to have a member flaunting a shirt sponsor that by fact are a laundering sponsor! Where’s the outrage where is the media outrage? Not a word!? Wonder why?

 

[nmc]

Yeah see that? but why didnt Neville bring up cas that cleared us? Why certain clubs went after Man City with these charges only on a hunch or hacked emails to one of there members!? It’s always one sided for me! No one defending us or putting any of our points forward in a interviews to one, for me instigator's for these charges to be brought against us!

It would be a worrying development if the PL moved their whole process to an internal one? The independence and general professionalism of the wider legal profession are the only things that give us hope in this present process. Imagine a disciplinary panel of Gill, Levy and Henry sitting in judgement? Or perhaps they could employ a dodgy former Belgian PM to oversee things. People like Levy are the enemy and they’ll NEVER be anything else.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I think the fact the PL just brought in new rules where the panel members have to sign a contract declaring they have sufficient time to bring these cases to a quick resolution suggests the hold up is no longer about the seriousness of the charges and more about the KC's involved being too busy to do the job.

I suspect that's also why someone like Levy is appearing less aggressively anti-City - he knows we're waiting around like everyone else, and goes to his line about sorting it out internally not relying on lawyers.

The new rules for availability and independence were for Section X arbitrations, not Section W disciplinary issues, so that doesn't work.

So, how about this? There is some connection between the APT case and the 115 case that we don't know about and the APT case has been held up by the arbitrators' availability. Hence the new rules and the recent talk of the 115 not being settled until after October, which is coincidentally when the APT arbitration is heard.

I know it's unlikely, but I can't help getting the idea that the 115 is taking too long now, and there may be something going on that we don't know about.

And I know everyone will say it's not possible, but the view on APT was that it would be difficult to "win" the case and, in the end, it was easy if people only connected the shareholder loan dots.

Just a thought. I am prepared to be roundly condemned :)

 

[cheekybids]

Even Daniel Levy seems weary of it all now, and he was probably one of the ones pushing for us to be charged.

Cheeky **** seems to realise it’s going to cost him a wedge because City have had the audacity to defend themselves with Lawyers.

 

[mancboy]

It would be a worrying development if the PL moved their whole process to an internal one? The independence and general professionalism of the wider legal profession are the only things that give us hope in this present process. Imagine a disciplinary panel of Gill, Levy and Henry sitting in judgement? Or perhaps they could employ a dodgy former Belgian PM to oversee things. People like Levy are the enemy and they’ll NEVER be anything else.

Couldnt be done, as much as they think they are the PL arent absolved from following the laws of the land.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Even Daniel Levy seems weary of it all now, and he was probably one of the ones pushing for us to be charged.

“it’s unfortunate we haven’t been able to resolve things internally”

We?

Internally?

 

[waspish]

“it’s unfortunate we haven’t been able to resolve things internally”

We?

Him and his American mates

 

[dadnlad]

Couldnt be done, as much as they think they are the PL arent absolved from following the laws of the land.

they have so far so why change habbits

 

[Stoned Rose]

Him and his American mates

Little cunts.

 

[mancboy]

they have so far so why change habbits

Thats why APT bit em on the arse and why they will fail with 115, what they think they are and what they are 2 different animals

 

[johnnytapia]

I think a one man tribunal chaired by me would definitely be beyond reproach.

Reminds me, slightly tangentially, of the wise words of Fiat President Gianni Agnelli when he was asked how he and the board came to a majority agreement on the biggest decisions:
“I Always ensure there are an odd number of people making the decision. And I always ensure that number is less than two.”

 

[Craggers]

“it’s unfortunate we haven’t been able to resolve things internally”

We?

Internally?

I picked up on that too. Strange choice of words

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

Levy not as confident now we’ve stood up to them and thinking of his pockets now.

 

[johnnytapia]

I went on the coach from Chadderton Tavern, they put us in the side paddock.

I was on coach from the Parkside, one of best matches / nights - drew 1-1 at MR nobody gave us a prayer in the replay.
Matched by the despair of getting hammered 4-0 in the QF at Selhurst- longest trip home ever.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

So, how about this? There is some connection between the APT case and the 115 case that we don't know about and the APT case has been held up by the arbitrators' availability. Hence the new rules and the recent talk of the 115 not being settled until after October, which is coincidentally when the APT arbitration is heard.

I know it's unlikely, but I can't help getting the idea that the 115 is taking too long now, and there may be something going on that we don't know about.

And I know everyone will say it's not possible, but the view on APT was that it would be difficult to "win" the case and, in the end, it was easy if people only connected the shareholder loan dots.

Just a thought. I am prepared to be roundly condemned :)

Although a certain poster was dismissive of this, I've said before that there is a clear theme linking the 2014 UEFA FFP settlement, the subsequent UEFA charges and CAS hearing, the PL charges and the APT rules, which is related parties.

One of the main disagreements in 2014 was around whether Etihad and other Abu Dhabi companies were related parties. UEFA's advisers said they were and we disagreed. It came up again in 2018 and was specifically referred to in the CAS verdict.

The APT rules were clearly designed to catch these sponsors in their net, while conveniently and knowingly ignoring shareholder loans. My suspicion is that this line of attack was designed to force us to reveal details of these contracts at the least, or even kibosh them completely at worst. We know the amounts have been restricted.

Whether there's a direct linkage between the relevant 115 charges and the APT case I wouldn't like to say, but I think we'll see once the PL charges are resolved.

 

[Cobwebcat]

It’s taking a long time for us but, if I understand correctly, it’s fairly normal in the greater scheme of similar cases?

 

[Cobwebcat]

I take it there is nothing the PL can do about the PUMA deal since it is in no way related or associated?