Liverpool Thread | 2025/26

[Milesvk]

I am patriotic also.

He has been a liability for years. He has this strange way of defending when players run at him, he stands to one side and runs alongside with them and let's them shoot. He rarely gets involved in actual defending, he leaves that to others. He can ping a ball over to salah and that gets the media creaming in their pants. He will disposes players but just like other big defenders do with there bodies.
He ain't shit but he isn't this God like figure the scousers and media put him on.
Remember watching a game of theirs and a ball went over the top, VVD had a 10 yard start, the ball was travelling at pace towards the keeper so the forward give up the chase. This prompted the commentary to state the forward knew he was up against VVD in a battle he wouldn't win so give up and then spent the next 5 mins that he has that mental effect on strikers to give up!.
The forward was never getting the ball even if there was no defender there.

 

[TinFoilHat]

PiGMOL must have a blind rule the amount of times VVD wasn't red carded last season for opposition players faces contacting his elbows.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

He has been a liability for years. He has this strange way of defending when players run at him, he stands to one side and runs alongside with them and let's them shoot. He rarely gets involved in actual defending, he leaves that to others. He can ping a ball over to salah and that gets the media creaming in their pants. He will disposes players but just like other big defenders do with there bodies.
He ain't shit but he isn't this God like figure the scousers and media put him on.
Remember watching a game of theirs and a ball went over the top, VVD had a 10 yard start, the ball was travelling at pace towards the keeper so the forward give up the chase. This prompted the commentary to state the forward knew he was up against VVD in a battle he wouldn't win so give up and then spent the next 5 mins that he has that mental effect on strikers to give up!.
The forward was never getting the ball even if there was no defender there.

Cheers.

WIth respect though I 100% disagree. VVD is the best CB in world football today. Sure he makes mistakes at times... but a "liability for years..." that's way over the top.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Surely fans booing the national anthem would be the bigger headline than fans booing about Jota?

It is another example of the British media not wanting to upset Liverpool in any way, shape or form.

Don't get it.

As far as I can see the Palace fans didn’t boo during the minute’s silence for Jota, they were singing ‘Eagles’. There is a distinct difference, as we should know.

I remember the FA Cup Semi in 2022 well, and remember hearing a group of City fans singing ‘the best team in the land and all the world’ about ten seconds into the Hillsborough minute’s silence, which we have always respectfully observed, most notably at the 25 year anniversary at Anfield in 2014.

It was obvious to me, given where I was sat, and the way this noise was developing that it was an isolated group of fans who were moving forwards. It’s perfectly reasonable to conclude therefore, that it was a set of fans (I would guess about a dozen, possibly slightly more) who had been drinking up/arrived relatively late, moving from the concourse to their seats, who were unlikely to be aware of the minute’s silence, or that it was being observed at that particular time. I’m almost certain that’s what happened, and in those circumstances, any group of fans deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Booing is entirely different because it is intended to convey disapproval (or worse) at what is taking place. It is by its nature a response to something that has/is happening. Singing can, and frequently does occur unilaterally

With tedious predictability the narrative in the press following that Semi was City fans showing egregious disrespect to Hillsborough, when it was no such thing. With equally tedious predictability Liverpool as a club and supporters expressed their shock and disappointment (and inevitably, offence) at what had occurred. I’m pretty sure some local (to Liverpool) politicians went public pontificating about ‘educating’ City fans. And with further equally tedious predictability the club (City) did nothing to explain and mitigate what had gone on, despite it being pretty clear, and certainly in this instance the fans deserved the benefit of the doubt from its own fucking club. The club has serious form of spinelessness when it comes to dealing with Liverpool and the behaviour of its supporters.

I reckon what happened yesterday is likely to be from the same tedious fucking playbook.

 

[fulabeer]

As far as I can see the Palace fans didn’t boo during the minute’s silence for Jota, they were singing ‘Eagles’. There is a distinct difference, as we should know.

I remember the FA Cup Semi in 2022 well, and remember hearing a group of City fans singing ‘the best team in the land and all the world’ about ten seconds into the Hillsborough minute’s silence, which we have always respectfully observed, most notably at the 25 year anniversary at Anfield in 2014.

It was obvious to me, given where I was sat, and the way this noise was developing that it was an isolated group of fans who were moving forwards. It’s perfectly reasonable to conclude therefore, that it was a set of fans (I would guess about a dozen, possibly slightly more) who had been drinking up/arrived relatively late, moving from the concourse to their seats, who were unlikely to be aware of the minute’s silence, or that it was being observed at that particular time. I’m almost certain that’s what happened, and in those circumstances, any group of fans deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Booing is entirely different because it is intended to convey disapproval (or worse) at what is taking place. It is by its nature a response to something that has/is happening. Singing can, and frequently does occur unilaterally

With tedious predictability the narrative in the press following that Semi was City fans showing egregious disrespect to Hillsborough, when it was no such thing. With equally tedious predictability Liverpool as a club and supporters expressed their shock and disappointment (and inevitably, offence) at what had occurred. I’m pretty sure some local (to Liverpool) politicians went public pontificating about ‘educating’ City fans. And with further equally tedious predictability the club (City) did nothing to explain and mitigate what had gone on, despite it being pretty clear, and certainly in this instance the fans deserved the benefit of the doubt from its own fucking club. The club has serious form of spinelessness when it comes to dealing with Liverpool and the behaviour of its supporters.

I reckon what happened yesterday is likely to be from the same tedious fucking playbook.

I may be wrong, but i read this morning that there was two separate things done for Jota.
A pre-match tribute, and then the minutes silence.
So it could be entirely possible that some fans thought it was all done and dusted (so were free to sing) or were as you say just taking their seats.

If not, they are a bunch of despicable cunts...

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I may be wrong, but i read this morning that there was two separate things done for Jota.
A pre-match tribute, and then the minutes silence.
So it could be entirely possible that some fans thought it was all done and dusted (so were free to sing) or were as you say just taking their seats.

If not, they are a bunch of despicable cunts...

I agree, if done intentionally it’s horrible. I may have missed something but I haven’t read anywhere about them booing, which leaves much less room for doubt about the motives.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I think it depends.

Some sides treat the Community Shield as a training match - other sides want to win the trophy.

For me, Liverpool and Palace both wanted the trophy. Fielding their best sides.

The atmosphere in the Palace end was fantastic. It was a great match to watch and very competitive. Palace have now beaten City and Liverpool at Wembley. That’s great for them.

 

[Wanderingwolf]

I may be wrong, but i read this morning that there was two separate things done for Jota.
A pre-match tribute, and then the minutes silence.
So it could be entirely possible that some fans thought it was all done and dusted (so were free to sing) or were as you say just taking their seats.

If not, they are a bunch of despicable cunts...

apparently some palace fans were late getting into to the ground and weren't aware of what was going on, the ref wasn't very clear about the start of the minutes silence, which didn't help matters. so no booing.
A minutes applause is far better.

 

[ancoats]

What?

Handball clear as day, but no pen If it was City it would have been given

 

[slotter]

I’m not, I won’t sing the national anthem, but I won’t boo it.

I don't boo it either. Many seem to think that I do. I choose not to sing it.

 

[mexico1970]

I am patriotic also.

Yup we can be patriotic without singing a song, scousers seem to want to boo it which I find weird and out of place,

It's not even the odd one there are a large majority who do, no wonder nobody likes the grief stricken bastards.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I may be wrong, but i read this morning that there was two separate things done for Jota.
A pre-match tribute, and then the minutes silence.
So it could be entirely possible that some fans thought it was all done and dusted (so were free to sing) or were as you say just taking their seats.

If not, they are a bunch of despicable cunts...

How many tributes / silences should there be?
Ultimately, although very sad this young man killed himself, his brother and devastated the lives of their family with what seems to have been an entirely preventable act of dangerous driving. To be blunt, victims of the stupidity most of us exhibit as young men but are lucky enough to get away with - probably because we can't afford to do it in anything more racy than a 1300cc banger at that age. I don't think it's ok to disrespect the tributes etc, I'm just not sure they should be happening.
About 5 people a day are killed in road accidents in the UK every day and road traffic collisions are the biggest killer of young people aged 15 to 29 worldwide. In 2023, as a result of a road collision 290 young people were killed in the uk and nearly one quarter of all road collisions involved young people.

Being really talented, rich, playing for Liverpool, and the accident happening in another country does not make this sad event any more notable than any other. Imho.

 

[Gray]

How many tributes / silences should there be?
Ultimately, although very sad this young man killed himself, his brother and devastated the lives of their family with what seems to have been an entirely preventable act of dangerous driving. To be blunt, victims of the stupidity most of us exhibit as young men but are lucky enough to get away with - probably because we can't afford to do it in anything more racy than a 1300cc banger at that age. I don't think it's ok to disrespect the tributes etc, I'm just not sure they should be happening.
About 5 people a day are killed in road accidents in the UK every day and road traffic collisions are the biggest killer of young people aged 15 to 29 worldwide. In 2023, as a result of a road collision 290 young people were killed in the uk and nearly one quarter of all road collisions involved young people.

Being really talented, rich, playing for Liverpool, and the accident happening in another country does not make this sad event any more notable than any other. Imho.

All these minutes silences/applauses before and during games really do my head in.

The one we do at the end of every year is the only one I feel is really appropriate.

 

[Tracking back]

I may be wrong, but i read this morning that there was two separate things done for Jota.
A pre-match tribute, and then the minutes silence.
So it could be entirely possible that some fans thought it was all done and dusted (so were free to sing) or were as you say just taking their seats.

If not, they are a bunch of despicable cunts...

The issue I've got with the dippers is that they're so fucking precious they probably have one ear cocked listening out in anticipation of any noise.

I would imagine there is a large section of their fanbase that would be offended if everyone from the opposition side were to impeccably observe the tribute.

One of the side effects of being a victim is an over developed sense of self-importance and an underdeveloped sense of responsibility.

 

[Col12]

How many tributes / silences should there be?
Ultimately, although very sad this young man killed himself, his brother and devastated the lives of their family with what seems to have been an entirely preventable act of dangerous driving. To be blunt, victims of the stupidity most of us exhibit as young men but are lucky enough to get away with - probably because we can't afford to do it in anything more racy than a 1300cc banger at that age. I don't think it's ok to disrespect the tributes etc, I'm just not sure they should be happening.
About 5 people a day are killed in road accidents in the UK every day and road traffic collisions are the biggest killer of young people aged 15 to 29 worldwide. In 2023, as a result of a road collision 290 young people were killed in the uk and nearly one quarter of all road collisions involved young people.

Being really talented, rich, playing for Liverpool, and the accident happening in another country does not make this sad event any more notable than any other. Imho.

I would hope that this will be the end of the tributes, Excessive speed likely to be a significant contributing factor in these 2 deaths. This may have been preventable and 2 families now missing husbands and fathers, it doesn'tget much worse. The fact his brother was also killed will make it even tougher for both familes going forward.
This is an ideal opportunity to reinforce the impact excessive speed can have in a collision and the consequences for families and friends.
But I have heard nothing calling this out and think it is a wasted opportunity.

 

[Tracking back]

How many tributes / silences should there be?
Ultimately, although very sad this young man killed himself, his brother and devastated the lives of their family with what seems to have been an entirely preventable act of dangerous driving. To be blunt, victims of the stupidity most of us exhibit as young men but are lucky enough to get away with - probably because we can't afford to do it in anything more racy than a 1300cc banger at that age. I don't think it's ok to disrespect the tributes etc, I'm just not sure they should be happening.
About 5 people a day are killed in road accidents in the UK every day and road traffic collisions are the biggest killer of young people aged 15 to 29 worldwide. In 2023, as a result of a road collision 290 young people were killed in the uk and nearly one quarter of all road collisions involved young people.

Being really talented, rich, playing for Liverpool, and the accident happening in another country does not make this sad event any more notable than any other. Imho.

I applaud your courage to post that.

Of course it's a tragedy that two young men lost their lives and I'm sure we all wish their family well and offer our condolences.

If it was one of our players that this tragedy happened to, I'm curious whether we would expect the rest of the footballing fraternity to be as effected by it as much as we might?

It's a hypothetical question, so of course impossible to answer but I feel that I wouldn't take it personally or as an affront to my club if other fans were not as invested in my grief.

No I'm not condoning disrespectful behavior and I appreciate that we live in a free society but I draw the line when one fanbase profess to be more special than another.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

The issue I've got with the dippers is that they're so fucking precious they probably have one ear cocked listening out in anticipation of any noise.

I would imagine there is a large section of their fanbase that would be offended if everyone from the opposition side were to impeccably observe the tribute.

On of the side effects of being a victim is an over developed sense of self-importance and an underdeveloped sense of responsibility.

Been looking for a word that seemed to describe the " thought process dipper supporters adopt towards anything remotely " connected " to themselves or the club, and came across
" mawkish " which would appear to be appropriate for so many of the dipper fans who like to make everything relevant to themselves.

Pathetic imo and just like rags fans, symptomatic of their desperate need to be accepted

 

[Tracking back]

Been looking for a word that seemed to describe the " thought process dipper supporters adopt towards anything remotely " connected " to themselves or the club, and came across
" mawkish " which would appear to be appropriate for so many of the dipper fans who like to make everything relevant to themselves.

Pathetic imo and just like rags fans, symptomatic of their desperate need to be accepted

Yes,

Another good descriptive word for them is 'contrived'.

 

[slotter]

Been looking for a word that seemed to describe the " thought process dipper supporters adopt towards anything remotely " connected " to themselves or the club, and came across
" mawkish " which would appear to be appropriate for so many of the dipper fans who like to make everything relevant to themselves.

Pathetic imo and just like rags fans, symptomatic of their desperate need to be accepted

I reckon that if one were to put every fanbases forum/social media posts, side by side, one would see a lot of recurring themes.

Bent officiating
Rule changes are to stop us competing/winning
Every club spends money but us! where is our money going? Why don't we spend it?
They only won by cheating
Media hate us
Commentators hate when we score
They only won because we were shit
We hate united.
Player X should play instead of player Y
A lot of blind hope about other clubs decisions being detrimental to their prospects.
Unnecessary vile hatred

No fanbase displays any self awareness. One will see a minority section, in each, that do. They will be quickly pounced upon if they post anything that goes against the narrative.

That is every fanbase across the football world.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I applaud your courage to post that.

Of course it's a tragedy that two young men lost their lives and I'm sure we all wish their family well and offer our condolences.

If it was one of our players that this tragedy happened to, I'm curious whether we would expect the rest of the footballing fraternity to be as effected by it as much as we might?

It's a hypothetical question, so of course impossible to answer but I feel that I wouldn't take it personally or as an affront to my club if other fans were not as invested in my grief.

No I'm not condoning disrespectful behavior and I appreciate that we live in a free society but I draw the line when one fanbase profess to be more special than another.

I was reflecting on that myself, and the nearest example we have is MVF. Without wishing to get into some grief pissing contest I don't see the circumstances around the deaths (MVF/Jota) as comparable although grief and loss are of course universal.