But within the financial constraints given by the club/Soriano.
I don't believe Soriano is blocking anything, but he is not irrelevant for our transfer decisions.
Savinho | City reject Spurs approach
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But within the financial constraints given by the club/Soriano.
I don't believe Soriano is blocking anything, but he is not irrelevant for our transfer decisions.
Can’t see it being Pep.
If it was Pep that didn’t want him to go you’d say it out loud, it’s a huge sign of support if the great manager ever wants you to stay. You market it as that.
Savio clearly wants the move which is why the clubs have been speaking, his agent is over and he’s been excluded from the squad to train alone.
Why? Well it’s not England if he wants to move to spurs. Probably because he’s been told Pep can’t guarantee his minutes.
That doesn’t mean he wants him to go, probably doesn’t guarantee anyone’s minutes. But if it’s come from Pep that he doesn’t want him to leave I feel like Savio’s reaction would be different. Pep is like if you want to go you’d go if the conditions are met.
This is either because it’s a CFG signing and they want success with that, because they aren’t paying enough or possibly because someone thinks he’s going to be a great player.
If it was Pep that didn’t want him to go you’d say it out loud, it’s a huge sign of support if the great manager ever wants you to stay. You market it as that.
Savio clearly wants the move which is why the clubs have been speaking, his agent is over and he’s been excluded from the squad to train alone.
Why? Well it’s not England if he wants to move to spurs. Probably because he’s been told Pep can’t guarantee his minutes.
That doesn’t mean he wants him to go, probably doesn’t guarantee anyone’s minutes. But if it’s come from Pep that he doesn’t want him to leave I feel like Savio’s reaction would be different. Pep is like if you want to go you’d go if the conditions are met.
This is either because it’s a CFG signing and they want success with that, because they aren’t paying enough or possibly because someone thinks he’s going to be a great player.
Tugay One Cup
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Again, I'm pretty sure this is just us using the press to play hardball with Spurs and letting him know there's no chance of the price coming down if they think they can drag this out.
As much as I rate the kid, I find it hard to believe anyone at the club would be unwilling to sell for around £65m. Especially when he's open to it.
As much as I rate the kid, I find it hard to believe anyone at the club would be unwilling to sell for around £65m. Especially when he's open to it.
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I’d guess the reason they’re against actioning this sale so much is because of who it is to.
We are clearly still stinging over actioning the Palmer sale to a domestic rival in Chelsea.
If we’d have received a £60mil bid from a team in Europe for Savinho, then it’d probably have been accepted.
Much easier to accept seeing someone do well abroad (Alvarez) than it is to see someone do well domestically (Palmer).
We are clearly still stinging over actioning the Palmer sale to a domestic rival in Chelsea.
If we’d have received a £60mil bid from a team in Europe for Savinho, then it’d probably have been accepted.
Much easier to accept seeing someone do well abroad (Alvarez) than it is to see someone do well domestically (Palmer).
I think there’s every chance this is the case.
Palmer was sensational 18 months or so, but this calendar year he has been underwhelming: 4 goal involvements in 18 league games is close to what Savinho has offered (whose finishing has been mostly very poor).
Let's see whether Palmer will return to the previous heights, because 4 goals/assists (1 pen) in the last 18 PL games is very unimpressive.
Overall, Palmer has contributed 12 goals/assists in 32 games in all compets since January. That's worse than Doku per played minutes.
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I reckon its Soriano.
He's the 'money-man' ranging from ticket prices to transfer sign-offs from a financial POV.
I'm sure a while back it was him that wanted to cash in on Palmer whilst Pep wanted him to keep him.
The block probably has something to do with the bigger picture from a wage bill perspective. Yes, we sell Savinho but then Pep will want a replacement which comes with a bigger transfer fee & wage bill.
On Palmer's account, Pep told him to either stay or leave permanently, Pep was against a loan. Haven't seen any info suggesting it was Soriano who wanted him gone.
Gordyola
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Bad blood between City and Levy who they believe is a big driver behind the 115 charges Pep even named checked him in a press conference and he was an arse in the Harry Kane saga
www.manchestercity.news
'Ask them': Guardiola calls out Tottenham figure in explosive press conference
Man City boss Pep Guardiola called out Tottenham Hotspur chairman, Daniel Levy, whilst defending his club in a fiery press conference.
Yup from a football perspective but he is the CEO so basically in charge of anything
He had a brief return to form against PSG, unless my memory fails me :-)
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Only reason I can think Soriano would personally veto this particular transfer is he doesn't want any dealings with Levy.
He had, in one game out of 30 or so.
Again, 4 goals/assists in 18 league games, one from a pen, is poor. That's Savinho's current level, or actually worse, if we count goal involvements per 90.
NQCitizen
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Soriano has a responsibility to protect our assets long term and potentially avoid Pep making short-term decisions. Don't want to get too "get van persie in and we're guaranteed to win it this year!", as a historical precedent.
Be funny if after all the "we don't need project players" in this thread our actual CEO thinks we do.
I mean the reasoning is already clear. It’s because he thinks savinho might turn into another Palmer and going for a replacement named Rodrigo who would want like 8x the salary of savinho while paying 90M is quite nonsense if you want to drop the average wage bracket in the squad.
NQCitizen
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Doue has scored or assisted 1 in his last 10.
Palmer hasn't scored in open play since January.
That's young players for you, inconsistent.
Kinda supports the argument that Savinho is still one of the world's best young wingers.
I think Savinho was a backup to Eze for Spurs but we have set a value for Savinho which is close enough to Eze so they seem to have locked on that path. I suspect we are "blocking' only in the sense that if we had been willing to let him leave for significantly less than Eze Spurs would have pulled the trigger and left Eze.