I don’t know what your criteria is for legend but in terms of what he has won with us and in Germany + his goals and his assists for us + his very own Aguero moment he certainly meets mine.
Don't think Gundogan had much to do with Echeverri,think there was always a choice between Bobb or Echeverri on loan, Echeverri was probably chosen because of squad places but even if that wasn't an issue and Gundogan and Kovacic went game time with so many attacking players would still be.I know mate, but lost moaned about not giving Kev a new deal, yet currently we still have all 3 of the other older kids around in Bernie, Gundo and Kova. In an ideal world we’d have moved on 2 of the remaining 3, and might well still do, but personally I’d have much preferred Echeverri getting a squad place than it being taken up by say Gundo.
There’s no way the club will want all 3 to be here by end of window, obviously Bernie going nowhere, so therefore one of the two needs to go. If Gundo chooses not to then I suppose a late move for Kova is more likely. Personally I think Kova offers us much more than Gundo.
Mike Summerbee is a legend, I still don’t want him starting against Spurs mind.Not to single you out, but the way our fanbase has turned on Gundo is quite shameful.
Literally a pointless reply.One of our greatest players ever.
Well that’s my week ruined.You’ll be in trouble from @BringBackSwales shortly…
Yeah, I was only really using Echeverri as an example of how many dissenting voices have been moaning about us shipping out the new younger signings on loan whilst then calling out anyone saying get rid of Gundo as being someone showing no respect to the old guard.Don't think Gundogan had much to do with Echeverri,think there was always a choice between Bobb or Echeverri on loan, Echeverri was probably chosen because of squad places but even if that wasn't an issue and Gundogan and Kovacic went game time with so many attacking players would still be.
Don’t know if you saw last night, all the posts got removed by the thread cleaning fairies, but there were people laughing about getting pm threats, lol.Well that’s my week ruined.
Oh do fuck off you cunting snowflake. It’s objectivity.The message I quoted, and others on this thread, are hate.
I hadn’t seen that, was too busy hating stuff.Don’t know if you saw last night, all the posts got removed by the thread cleaning fairies, but there were people laughing about getting pm threats, lol.
I don't think anybody in this thread wants Gundo starting against Spurs mate. Just as I didn't want Scott Carson starting the champions league final. Missing the point. There's a role for Gundo on our squad.Mike Summerbee is a legend, I still don’t want him starting against Spurs mind.
Some of our fans have absolutely zero objectivity though as they view everything through sky blue tinted glasses. Gundogan want wank last season, his legs had gone. I’ll be very happy when he returns as a coach but he shouldn’t be wearing the shirt this season.
Ps, single me out all you want, I will defend my position to anyone and literally don’t give a fuck if you disagree.
I'm the cunting snowflake but you're on your knees praying to god that Gundogan leaves our club... keep crying mate.Oh do fuck off you cunting snowflake. It’s objectivity.
Oh do fuck off you cunting snowflake. It’s objectivity.
I’m not remotely on my knees but if Gala want to take him off our hands I’ll be thankful for sure. Quite the imagination you have, how often do you picture other posters on their knees?I'm the cunting snowflake but you're on your knees praying to god that Gundogan leaves our club... keep crying mate.
lol can't make this stuff up.
It is my objectivity yes! That’s exactly how we all have opinions. I have no subjective dislike of Gundogan. He seems a great bloke, he did great things for us in the past, he WAS wank for us last season. By any OBJECTIVE metric he was terrible.It's your objectivity, though.
If you are arrogant/silly enough to think your thoughts are objective truths, you are a deluded bellend.
It is my objectivity yes! That’s exactly how we all have opinions. I have no subjective dislike of Gundogan. He seems a great bloke, he did great things for us in the past, he WAS wank for us last season. By any OBJECTIVE metric he was terrible.
If you want to get personal because someone else doesn’t rate the professional multi-multi-millionaire player as much as you do then you can ride my dick from here to Skegness kid. You really don’t get that I do not care what you think about me as a person. You don’t exist in my sphere, after this post, I’ll never think about you again, you prissy little slag.
It is my objectivity yes! That’s exactly how we all have opinions. I have no subjective dislike of Gundogan. He seems a great bloke, he did great things for us in the past, he WAS wank for us last season. By any OBJECTIVE metric he was terrible.
If you want to get personal because someone else doesn’t rate the professional multi-multi-millionaire player as much as you do then you can ride my dick from here to Skegness kid. You really don’t get that I do not care what you think about me as a person. You don’t exist in my sphere, after this post, I’ll never think about you again, you prissy little slag.
He'd have got a game last seasonMike Summerbee is a legend, I still don’t want him starting against Spurs mind.
Gundo is as deserving of a statue as anyone. Right up there alongside the very best who have ever put on a blue shirt.Not to single you out, but the way our fanbase has turned on Gundo is quite shameful. You all had your trousers down in excitement only a year ago for his return. He started slow but eventually found his groove. He's still a good player, and he's still a good man.
This is a club legend we're talking about. Likely a future City coach. Sure he's not in his prime, but if he plays 30 mins here or there and helps develop Tijani, Nico G, Nico OR, Cherki, etc., is that not worth one of the last squad spots?
Why all the hatred?
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FaIr point on fickle fans turning against him... Sadly, doesn't apply here. I predicted this last summer. Said he shouldn't come back.Not to single you out, but the way our fanbase has turned on Gundo is quite shameful. You all had your trousers down in excitement only a year ago for his return. He started slow but eventually found his groove. He's still a good player, and he's still a good man.
This is a club legend we're talking about. Likely a future City coach. Sure he's not in his prime, but if he plays 30 mins here or there and helps develop Tijani, Nico G, Nico OR, Cherki, etc., is that not worth one of the last squad spots?
Why all the hatred?
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That’s your subjective opinion of course. Just so long as we are aware of this and also aware that just because you need an XL bucket of fanny wipes, it doesn’t make you the moral arbiter of who deserves to watch what.Fuckwits slagging him off don't deserve to watch this team.
You’re usually one of the better posters on here so let’s not fall out - but I’m not having anyone dig out one of the best players in the history of our club and our treble winning captain just because we had a shite season and for some bizarre reason he was made the fall guy by some fans.That’s your subjective opinion of course. Just so long as we are aware of this and also aware that just because you need an XL bucket of fanny wipes, it doesn’t make you the moral arbiter of who deserves to watch what.