I don't think we need him. I don't think we need Savinho or Rodrygo either. I just prefer Semenyo to either. I definitely prefer 70 million pound over keeping Savinho...Also, your point about style and options is also very valid...
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Savinho | City reject Spurs approach
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Stoned Rose
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Think you need a VPN for that nowadays mate.Make the tight bald c*nt sweat!
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Selling Savinho is a risk either way.
If his goalscoring at Girona was an anomaly, £67m is a decent fee, and Rodrygo is probably a considerable upgrade
If his goalscoring at City was an anomaly, we would be making a mistake selling him, even/especially at £67m
Some stats/maths to back this up:
At Girona, he outperformed his xG, scoring 0.27 from 0.18 (150% of what he 'should' have got)
At City, he underperformed his xG, scoring 0.05 from 0.25 (20% of what he 'should' have got)
His performance in terms of expected assists is good and improving (0.24 xA and 0.35xA) I prefer to use xA rather than assists because it removes the quality of ST but his Assists per 90 were 0.30 & 0.41 respectively.
If you combine his Expected Assists per 90 from City and his Goal overperformance from Girona and calculate that over an entire PL season of 3420 minutes you are looking at a wide player who finishes the season on 14 goals and 13 assists. In all likelihood he would finish on more assists (16 based on actual assists) £67m is a bargain for such a player, nvm someone 21 years old.
If you just take his xG for City last season and have him meet it, you're talking 10 goals.
I'd be much more comfortable selling him a year from now when we get a better idea of his goalscoring ability. I personally find it difficult to believe that 0.05 from 0.25 is not an outlier, it's a crazy stat.
Obviously the coaches, analysis teams etc. see him in training every day, so will have a better idea than any of us. This is the kind of thing they're paid to get right.
If his goalscoring at Girona was an anomaly, £67m is a decent fee, and Rodrygo is probably a considerable upgrade
If his goalscoring at City was an anomaly, we would be making a mistake selling him, even/especially at £67m
Some stats/maths to back this up:
At Girona, he outperformed his xG, scoring 0.27 from 0.18 (150% of what he 'should' have got)
At City, he underperformed his xG, scoring 0.05 from 0.25 (20% of what he 'should' have got)
His performance in terms of expected assists is good and improving (0.24 xA and 0.35xA) I prefer to use xA rather than assists because it removes the quality of ST but his Assists per 90 were 0.30 & 0.41 respectively.
If you combine his Expected Assists per 90 from City and his Goal overperformance from Girona and calculate that over an entire PL season of 3420 minutes you are looking at a wide player who finishes the season on 14 goals and 13 assists. In all likelihood he would finish on more assists (16 based on actual assists) £67m is a bargain for such a player, nvm someone 21 years old.
If you just take his xG for City last season and have him meet it, you're talking 10 goals.
I'd be much more comfortable selling him a year from now when we get a better idea of his goalscoring ability. I personally find it difficult to believe that 0.05 from 0.25 is not an outlier, it's a crazy stat.
Obviously the coaches, analysis teams etc. see him in training every day, so will have a better idea than any of us. This is the kind of thing they're paid to get right.
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Dont' forget we also have owners who can hold a chip on their shoulder.
How many remember when they were mistreated by a night club in Vegas due to their skin color and they bought a place next door, made it a much better night club and put the original fuckers out of business?
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Time to cash in before we see how spursey he is.
Yah pretty much. For me Bobb has replaced Savio and Rodrygo would replace Grealish. Obviously Sav could stay and play on both sides but feel like we are pushing Bobb, and rightly so.Have we not replaced him with Bobb who is like a new signing
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Is this actually true? Absolutely brilliant if so.Dont' forget we also have owners who can hold a chip on their shoulder.
How many remember when they were mistreated by a night club in Vegas due to their skin color and they bought a place next door, made it a much better night club and put the original fuckers out of business?
Yep that's Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon too.. and don't you fucking forget it!
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Anyone expecting a replacement will likely be sad at the result. Pep said he wants a smaller squad, and the only way that happens is if we sell and don't replace. So unless it's a fire sale for Rodrygo I would be floored if we sign someone.
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Can you now? I'd put myself up against you in player evaluation any time you'd like. What an arrogant lump...
I just meant because it's largely based on goal output rather than tactical role or fit.
I don't think it's controversial to suggest most of the clubs in Europe would appear to value Rodrygo and Savinho higher than Semenyo.
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He’ll end up a good player, no doubt, but having the worst shot conversion rate in the top 5 leagues, and only having 1 season he scored more than 2 goals in, I’d take the £70mil and run. If Pep wants Rodrygo and he’s gettable for a similar price, go for it.
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Eighty million notes?
Bite their hand off and give him a single ticket on National Express to the Smoke.
I’ll have a look cheersYou could get that per minute on Onlyfans if you appeal to a niche audience mate?
Yes. Hakkasan (Group). Sold it now i believeIs this actually true? Absolutely brilliant if so.
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Dont' forget we also have owners who can hold a chip on their shoulder.
How many remember when they were mistreated by a night club in Vegas due to their skin color and they bought a place next door, made it a much better night club and put the original fuckers out of business?
Yep that's Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon too.. and don't you fucking forget it!
never heard this story before
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How many times did Evanilson face a back 10 ?Savinho
Breakdown of his 2024/2025 Season Stats:
Goals: 1
Shots on Goal: 41
Shots on Goal/Goal Ratio: 1.54
Evanilson
Here's a breakdown of his stats:
Total Shots on Goal: 46
Total Goals: 10
Shot-to-Goal Ratio: 11.11% (10 goals / 46 shots on goal)
Savinho isn't even close in the scoring stakes, and he is way off on the shots to goal ratio.
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How many times did Evanilson face a back 10 ?
This is another reason why stats don't tell a true story. Although the shots per goal ratio is valid.
Anyway we should stop talking about a spuds player ;-)
Anyone expecting a replacement will likely be sad at the result. Pep said he wants a smaller squad, and the only way that happens is if we sell and don't replace. So unless it's a fire sale for Rodrygo I would be floored if we sign someone.
Depends on who the replacement is. We could for example replace him with a hg player, and that would be fine.
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What we need from wingers is intricate well timed passing like Bobb showed at the weekend and Phil could do before the dip. The chances of dribbling through a low block from a standing start require Messi like skills. I have not seen this from Sav but Rodri was not that impressive at first. I think he will do well at Spurs cos even my Sunday team would not be worried enough by them to low block.
Thats what really stood out to me on saturday, how many times bobb made the right choice when passing the ball.What we need from wingers is intricate well timed passing like Bobb showed at the weekend and Phil could do before the dip. The chances of dribbling through a low block from a standing start require Messi like skills. I have not seen this from Sav but Rodri was not that impressive at first. I think he will do well at Spurs cos even my Sunday team would not be worried enough by them to low block.