Gianluigi Donnarumma | Done deal according to Romano

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I don’t understand this transfer at all. Peps keepers have to be able to play with the ball at their feet. The foundations of the City sides over the years has started with Ederson being able to ping the ball where ever he likes. Peps not going to go against his philosophy he’s believed in for 20 years and all of a sudden go long.
 
I don’t understand this transfer at all. Peps keepers have to be able to play with the ball at their feet. The foundations of the City sides over the years has started with Ederson being able to ping the ball where ever he likes. Peps not going to go against his philosophy he’s believed in for 20 years and all of a sudden go long.
Well he should stop signing keepers not capable of doing it then.
 
Im hoping this deal doesnt go through

He is the best shot stopper in the world but yesterday confirmed to me that if we bring him in, teams will just press higher and higher and we will leak goals and high oportunity chances for the opposition. Some of our back 4 are NOT good enough on the ball with a keeper who gives dodgy passes (Rico Dias Ake all certainly not good enough in high pressure situations with the ball at their feet facing their own goal). The issue is that when we then kick long the ball comes right back onto our back 4 - our wingers are too wide and cant hold it up and Haaland will be outnumbered (as he was yesterday) - Pep will therefore have to completely change what he has been doing for nearly 10 years and Im not sure he will do that or has the players who physically can not do it (out wide or in central midfield...playing like that you need athletes and we dont have those in abundance (Rodri and maybe Reijnders aside)

Yes the very pass was poor from Trafford but it wasnt the only problem with playing out from the back yesterday. Some of our defenders made very poor choice of movement and even when they got the ball the passing out was poor as well from them

Best thing we can do is shelve plans for Donaruma and Rodrygo and buy a right back ot 2 and a central midfielder - work with Trafford on his distribution and tell Ederson that he stays until his contract runs out and he can leave on a free with everyones blessing - this helps the transition between goalkeepers and potential style of play as well
 
I don’t understand this transfer at all. Peps keepers have to be able to play with the ball at their feet. The foundations of the City sides over the years has started with Ederson being able to ping the ball where ever he likes. Peps not going to go against his philosophy he’s believed in for 20 years and all of a sudden go long.
Where are we going to find this keeper that can play with his feet though ? We need an established keeper with a proven record, the only keeper we can get easily is Donna . Where we have gone wrong is not developing a young keeper who could have been with Eddie for the majority of Eddie's time here, and learnt from the master. Eddie was always going to be very hard to replace because of his unique style of goalkeeping, and now we are seeing how hard it really is.
 
I don’t understand this transfer at all. Peps keepers have to be able to play with the ball at their feet. The foundations of the City sides over the years has started with Ederson being able to ping the ball where ever he likes. Peps not going to go against his philosophy he’s believed in for 20 years and all of a sudden go long.

You literally cannot replace Edersons passing in goal.

I dont know of any other player with the vision and passing ability, and even if there is, there's nobody that composed under a press.

You don't need a goalkeeper that is as good as Ederson with ball at feet. It's been the foundation of our game because we've had it as an option. If you don't have that option anymore, you tweak things.
 
Im hoping this deal doesnt go through

He is the best shot stopper in the world but yesterday confirmed to me that if we bring him in, teams will just press higher and higher and we will leak goals and high oportunity chances for the opposition. Some of our back 4 are NOT good enough on the ball with a keeper who gives dodgy passes (Rico Dias Ake all certainly not good enough in high pressure situations with the ball at their feet facing their own goal). The issue is that when we then kick long the ball comes right back onto our back 4 - our wingers are too wide and cant hold it up and Haaland will be outnumbered (as he was yesterday) - Pep will therefore have to completely change what he has been doing for nearly 10 years and Im not sure he will do that or has the players who physically can not do it (out wide or in central midfield...playing like that you need athletes and we dont have those in abundance (Rodri and maybe Reijnders aside)

Yes the very pass was poor from Trafford but it wasnt the only problem with playing out from the back yesterday. Some of our defenders made very poor choice of movement and even when they got the ball the passing out was poor as well from them

Best thing we can do is shelve plans for Donaruma and Rodrygo and buy a right back ot 2 and a central midfielder - work with Trafford on his distribution and tell Ederson that he stays until his contract runs out and he can leave on a free with everyones blessing - this helps the transition between goalkeepers and potential style of play as well
Ain’t happening mate . For some stupid fucking Reason we feel we have enough to cover right back even though it’s clear as day we don’t . As for donnaruma I want him as he will make us stronger at the back and yes he’s app not great with his feet but fit the past year neither is ederson .
 
You literally cannot replace Edersons passing in goal.

I dont know of any other player with the vision and passing ability, and even if there is, there's nobody that composed under a press.

You don't need a goalkeeper that is as good as Ederson with ball at feet. It's been the foundation of our game because we've had it as an option. If you don't have that option anymore, you tweak things.
It will be a acomplete change in how we play...not a tweak - does anyone think Pep will do this?

And if he does do we have the players to fit a new system?? I dont think we do
 
Im hoping this deal doesnt go through

He is the best shot stopper in the world but yesterday confirmed to me that if we bring him in, teams will just press higher and higher and we will leak goals and high oportunity chances for the opposition. Some of our back 4 are NOT good enough on the ball with a keeper who gives dodgy passes (Rico Dias Ake all certainly not good enough in high pressure situations with the ball at their feet facing their own goal). The issue is that when we then kick long the ball comes right back onto our back 4 - our wingers are too wide and cant hold it up and Haaland will be outnumbered (as he was yesterday) - Pep will therefore have to completely change what he has been doing for nearly 10 years and Im not sure he will do that or has the players who physically can not do it (out wide or in central midfield...playing like that you need athletes and we dont have those in abundance (Rodri and maybe Reijnders aside)

Yes the very pass was poor from Trafford but it wasnt the only problem with playing out from the back yesterday. Some of our defenders made very poor choice of movement and even when they got the ball the passing out was poor as well from them

Best thing we can do is shelve plans for Donaruma and Rodrygo and buy a right back ot 2 and a central midfielder - work with Trafford on his distribution and tell Ederson that he stays until his contract runs out and he can leave on a free with everyones blessing - this helps the transition between goalkeepers and potential style of play as well
With Trafford perhaps he thought he can do it, with Donnarumma we know for a fact he can't so if he continues then it's just insanity.

Pep has officially lost the plot and should be binned before we end up in Europa League next season.

Ain’t happening mate . For some stupid fucking Reason we feel we have enough to cover right back even though it’s clear as day we don’t . As for donnaruma I want him as he will make us stronger at the back and yes he’s app not great with his feet but fit the past year neither is ederson .

To be fair, unless we can shift Nunes and Akanji, there is no place for a RB. That is just the reality of the situation.
 
Ain’t happening mate . For some stupid fucking Reason we feel we have enough to cover right back even though it’s clear as day we don’t . As for donnaruma I want him as he will make us stronger at the back and yes he’s app not great with his feet but fit the past year neither is ederson .
You saw what happened yesterday yes?

Not just the goal but the multiple other times the defence and keeper were not making great decision that put us in trouble? This will occur hugely more with Donarumma in goal - we will give away more goals and more high value chances with him in goals - it doesnt make sense
 
It will be a acomplete change in how we play...not a tweak - does anyone think Pep will do this?

And if he does do we have the players to fit a new system?? I dont think we do
It's not some incredible change to the system that people make it out to be. At worst you're dropping an extra defender or midfielder down to mitigate the press.

If Peps a fan of the guy, then he knows what his strengths and weaknesses are. They likely have a scouting report on him. I'll attach something I said yesterday in relation to this whole "playing from the back" debate as I feel like I'm just repeating myself.

Where did we get this idea that the GK just absolutely has to play to the defender on the first ball under Pep and he'll lose his shit if we don't?

The whole idea was just to retain possession. If we're doing that by playing it to the wingers, there's no issue.

Ederson has multiple assists going straight to the attacker. According to some people, that should be driving Pep insane.

The whole idea was making smart decisions with the ball and playing possession in favour of territory.

It's naive to assume that Donnarumma will be expected by management to be capable of what Ederson is. It's naive to think that they think Trafford has that capability. Ederson is an absolute unicorn in that respect. Donnarumma is perfectly capable of not teeing up a Spurs player from the penalty spot. Which for me is an acceptable trade off for not being able to assist Haaland.

The team has never just been about "playing from the back". It's just been about retaining the ball to dictate tempo. What Trafford did today for the 2nd was just a poor decision and a poor read of the game.

You play out through the back when it's safe to do so, not just because you feel you have to. Just like Ederson played the long ball because an attacker was capable of receiving the pass with minimal work, not because he just wanted to go route one.
 
Im hoping this deal doesnt go through

He is the best shot stopper in the world but yesterday confirmed to me that if we bring him in, teams will just press higher and higher and we will leak goals and high oportunity chances for the opposition. Some of our back 4 are NOT good enough on the ball with a keeper who gives dodgy passes (Rico Dias Ake all certainly not good enough in high pressure situations with the ball at their feet facing their own goal). The issue is that when we then kick long the ball comes right back onto our back 4 - our wingers are too wide and cant hold it up and Haaland will be outnumbered (as he was yesterday) - Pep will therefore have to completely change what he has been doing for nearly 10 years and Im not sure he will do that or has the players who physically can not do it (out wide or in central midfield...playing like that you need athletes and we dont have those in abundance (Rodri and maybe Reijnders aside)

Yes the very pass was poor from Trafford but it wasnt the only problem with playing out from the back yesterday. Some of our defenders made very poor choice of movement and even when they got the ball the passing out was poor as well from them

Best thing we can do is shelve plans for Donaruma and Rodrygo and buy a right back ot 2 and a central midfielder - work with Trafford on his distribution and tell Ederson that he stays until his contract runs out and he can leave on a free with everyones blessing - this helps the transition between goalkeepers and potential style of play as well

Trafford's problem yesterday wasn't 'shot stopping'. I would be happy if we went into the season with him as our no.1. Even more so after yeaterday. Like Ederson, Ortega, or even Donnarumma don't make howlers!
 
You saw what happened yesterday yes?

Not just the goal but the multiple other times the defence and keeper were not making great decision that put us in trouble? This will occur hugely more with Donarumma in goal - we will give away more goals and more high value chances with him in goals - it doesnt make sense
We need to change from playing out of the back mate . Fed up with this every player needs to be great with his feet bollox . Get back to basics and start from their keeper whi can save defenders who defenders
 
Deluded - hoof did you see Halland throwing his arms yo because his hoof was nowhere near him
Future keeper no where newer good enough now
I bet Ortega is shaking his head wondering how it went wrong for him

Ortega did nothing wrong at all, but I think we all knew deep down he just wasn’t quite there to be the regular number one, and it seems Trafford has a bit to do as we all knew as well, proper catch 22 unless Ederson does go this week then it’s Donarumma all day long
 
We need to change from playing out of the back mate . Fed up with this every player needs to be great with his feet bollox . Get back to basics and start from their keeper whi can save defenders who defenders
Pep wont play like that though. we dont have the type of players to go back to basics whether you want to or not....our midfield, fullbacks annd wide players cant go back to basics. They are a team that needs to move up and down the pitch in units not stretch the play even more...they dont have the athleticism to do so
 
James Trafford's mistake yesterday can be sign to the loosing his head, trying too hard to be Eddy then panicking He had other options other than to pass to Nico the easiest to pass right but, if in doubt boot it and regroup. Spurs were targeting the high press if Eddy had been in goal they wouldn't have pressed so high as he would have resorted to long accurate kicks, Spurs knew that JT isn't capable of this My biggest fear was that JT would make a mistake early in the season like he did yesterday this will put teams on alert.
 
Trafford's problem yesterday wasn't 'shot stopping'. I would be happy if we went into the season with him as our no.1. Even more so after yeaterday. Like Ederson, Ortega, or even Donnarumma don't make howlers!
I have no problem with Trafford as he is a better shot stopper than Ederson. He is better with his feet than Donarumma as well

Noting to do witht he obvious howler,,,more abuot how he works in tandem with our piss weak back 4

Some of his and their decision making yesterday was horrific.

Im saying Donarumma makes those situations worse even if he is a better shot stopper
 
James Trafford's mistake yesterday can be sign to the loosing his head, trying too hard to be Eddy then panicking He had other options other than to pass to Nico the easiest to pass right but, if in doubt boot it and regroup. Spurs were targeting the high press if Eddy had been in goal they wouldn't have pressed so high as he would have resorted to long accurate kicks, Spurs knew that JT isn't capable of this My biggest fear was that JT would make a mistake early in the season like he did yesterday this will put teams on alert.
Was vey predictable to be fair....mentioned it weeks ago that this would happen
 
Pep wont play like that though. we dont have the type of players to go back to basics whether you want to or not....our midfield, fullbacks annd wide players cant go back to basics. They are a team that needs to move up and down the pitch in units not stretch the play even more...they dont have the athleticism to do so
You've hit the nail on the head, They are a group of players that need to attack in units and defend in units and also in small spaces, Gaps and large spaces that start to appear is dangerous for them as they don't have the legs to cove the ground.

Feels like every other team is moving on with football with the athleticism part of the game apart from Pep. I was hoping with Leijnders coming in would change the philosophy somewhat but it doesn't look like that's the plan even though its early days.
 
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