Savinho | City reject Spurs approach

Any player doing the hybrid role will leave us more exposed defensively, that's why I seriously wish Pep would ditch this tactic.

Those blaming Rico for the failings of the inverted FB system are yet to offer up another player who could play that system any better.

It's not Rico at fault, it's Pep's inverted FB obsession. It's done, it's over, it's been sussed, but Guardiola seems intent on persisting with it regardless of the damage it's causing City.

Have you tested your tactical knowledge in real life? Have you managed anything?

It's great to have ideas and think crititically, but it's silly to pretend that you fully understand Pep's tactical intentions and why they fail to materialise.

We won 40 pts from the last 19 games with midfielders at FB, due to multiple injuries at the back, and the likes of Haaland missing 5-6 weeks. 40 pts from the last 19 games was the best any team won in that period. Even if we accept that Liverpool won the title early and Arsenal focused on the CL, we did very well having so many injury problems and aging players. No signs of Pep's tactical ineptitude you imply.

Again, it's great to have opinions, but one shouldn't forget he has no experience in football management and no deep knowledge of the game. You seem to struggle to differentiate reality from your wonderfully imaginative thoughts. Come back to reality mate.
 
It was so disterous that in 15 (league) games since we lost to liverpool in Feb we'd won 12 and drawn 3 until Saturday.

Pep OUT.

If this is so (I think you are right), then in the last 15 games before Spurs our form was that of champions: 2,6 ppg, which over 38 games is 98 pts... Incredible.

And that without Stones, Ake and Akanji out injured for 2-4 months, and Haaland out for 5-6 weeks. The uncs.
 
Have you tested your tactical knowledge in real life? Have you managed anything?

It's great to have ideas and think crititically, but it's silly to pretend that you fully understand Pep's tactical intentions and why they fail to materialise.

We won 40 pts from the last 19 games with midfielders at FB, due to multiple injuries at the back, and the likes of Haaland missing 5-6 weeks. 40 pts from the last 19 games was the best any team won in that period. Even if we accept that Liverpool won the title early and Arsenal focused on the CL, we did very well having so many injury problems and aging players. No signs of Pep's tactical ineptitude you imply.

Again, it's great to have opinions, but one shouldn't forget he has no experience in football management and no deep knowledge of the game. You seem to struggle to differentiate reality from your wonderfully imaginative thoughts. Come back to reality mate.
Mate, I've got two eyes in my head & can analyse a game much the same as you can. Fine, you disagree with my personal analysis & opinion, but that's exactly what they are, my personal analysis & opinion.

You've expressed your valued opinions, but what makes yours any more valid than anyone else's?

My opinion isn't a kneejerk reaction. It's based on years of watching City & football in general over several decades & making personal assessments accordingly.

Just because you can't "fully understand Pep's tactical intentions and why they fail to materialise", doesn’t mean others can't.

Example: As soon as I saw the CL final line-up against Chelsea, my heart sank as I knew we'd be beaten. The same applies to the FA Cup final against Palace. It wasn't just me, many City fans felt the exact same.

Do you think football fans don't have the Right to analyse & comment on what they see? Do you think we don't have the right to analyse & comment unless we've managed a team to Champions League victory? It's you whose not being serious.

You've looked at the points won at the end of last season & reasoned all is rosey in our garden. I've focused on our performances across last season & into this.

It's our performances I find concerning since last November, hence why I'm not cherry picking a 6 week period & ignoring everything before & since.

After our January & summer purchases, I largely put my concerns to bed, but after 3 matches of change in the CWC, we reverted to the same tactics as last season & I saw the same problems emerging & they've continued on into this season imo.

If that doesn't concern you then fine, but I'm taking a longer term, considered view, so you're damn right I'm becoming concerned. Not so much with our purchases, but with the way we're being setup to play.

It seems to me that the opposition have sussed a way to counter Pep's inverted FB tactic. We've enough to overcome the lesser teams because of our better individual quality, but since last November, we've seriously struggled against stronger teams. That isn't just an opinion, it's fact.

I may not have managed a football team to CL glory, but I've managed large work teams most of my working life, so can sense when problems are occurring, & if they're being adequately dealt with.

I can see the same issues which affected us last season, & that's where my current concerns lie, as our boss seems intent on sticking with what has, & is currently failing us, & that's our inverted FB tactics.

Thay's where I stand, so perhaps you can give me your expert analysis about last season, how you see this season panning out, & why your analysis is any more valid than anyone else's.

Also, have you "tested your tactical knowledge in real life? Have you managed anything? Please explain when & where...
 
From Feb/March onwards Nunes was very good as a RB and seemed to cut the mistakes out of his game. He was also contributing going forward. I feel he is worth persisting with if, as seems likely, we don't sign a RB. Rico can do the hybrid role but leaves us even more exposed defensively.
I disagree. He wasn't "very good" but he wasn't his usual "absolutely fucking shite".
 
It was so disterous that in 15 (league) games since we lost to liverpool in Feb we'd won 12 and drawn 3 until Saturday.

Pep OUT.
Of the 12 victories, how many top teams did we beat?

Also, are you saying we were at our dominant, swashbuckling best over that period too?

I'm NOT calling for Guardiola's head. I'm merely wondering if Pep can see what I & many fans & pundits see? Our performances have massively deteriorated since last November, & I'm struggling to see signs of improvement.

Our huge recruitment drive & the sacking of our coaching staff suggests it's not just me whose sensed a problem. Our performances & in-game issues still haven't been resolved, & the only thing outside of the manager that we've not changed is Pep's inverted FB tactic.

Logic suggests to me that's where our current issues lie. Blaming Rico, Trafford, Dias, Gonzalez, Doku, Savinho, Bobb, Cherki, Bernardo & Reijnders like many have since the Spuds defeat, won't change the manner of that defeat or our sketchy performance against Wolves.

We had way more than enough to handle Spuds, but we were tactically schooled at home by an far inferior team on paper. This is where my major concern lies, not with our squad.
 
Mate, I've got two eyes in my head & can analyse a game much the same as you can. Fine, you disagree with my personal analysis & opinion, but that's exactly what they are, my personal analysis & opinion.

You've expressed your valued opinions, but what makes yours any more valid than anyone else's?

My opinion isn't a kneejerk reaction. It's based on years of watching City & football in general over several decades & making personal assessments accordingly.

Just because you can't "fully understand Pep's tactical intentions and why they fail to materialise", doesn’t mean others can't.

Example: As soon as I saw the CL final line-up against Chelsea, my heart sank as I knew we'd be beaten. The same applies to the FA Cup final against Palace. It wasn't just me, many City fans felt the exact same.

Do you think football fans don't have the Right to analyse & comment on what they see? Do you think we don't have the right to analyse & comment unless we've managed a team to Champions League victory? It's you whose not being serious.

You've looked at the points won at the end of last season & reasoned all is rosey in our garden. I've focused on our performances across last season & into this.

It's our performances I find concerning since last November, hence why I'm not cherry picking a 6 week period & ignoring everything before & since.

After our January & summer purchases, I largely put my concerns to bed, but after 3 matches of change in the CWC, we reverted to the same tactics as last season & I saw the same problems emerging & they've continued on into this season imo.

If that doesn't concern you then fine, but I'm taking a longer term, considered view, so you're damn right I'm becoming concerned. Not so much with our purchases, but with the way we're being setup to play.

It seems to me that the opposition have sussed a way to counter Pep's inverted FB tactic. We've enough to overcome the lesser teams because of our better individual quality, but since last November, we've seriously struggled against stronger teams. That isn't just an opinion, it's fact.

I may not have managed a football team to CL glory, but I've managed large work teams most of my working life, so can sense when problems are occurring, & if they're being adequately dealt with.

I can see the same issues which affected us last season, & that's where my current concerns lie, as our boss seems intent on sticking with what has, & is currently failing us, & that's our inverted FB tactics.

Thay's where I stand, so perhaps you can give me your expert analysis about last season, how you see this season panning out, & why your analysis is any more valid than anyone else's.

Also, have you "tested your tactical knowledge in real life? Have you managed anything? Please explain when & where...

After the loss vs Liverpool in February, Pep won 36 pts from 14 games: that's 2,57 ppg. Over 38 games that means 98 pts. Without Rodri and multiple other injuries in that period. Analyse that :)

To draw from that fact the conclusion Pep's fnished or tactically inept takes some imagination mate.

Anyway, you are entitled of your opinion. I'm not pretending I'm absolutely right or that Pep will succeed at 100%. Only time can tell.
 
After the loss vs Liverpool in February, Pep won 36 pts from 14 games: that's 2,57 ppg. Over 38 games that means 98 pts. Without Rodri and multiple other injuries in that period. Analyse that :)

To draw from that fact the conclusion Pep's fnished or tactically inept takes some imagination mate.

Anyway, you are entitled of your opinion. I'm not pretending I'm absolutely right or that Pep will succeed at 100%. Only time can tell.
We played virtually none of the top 6 teams, bar Newcastle. We didn't even beat United, ended 0-0... that stat is as useless as a chocolate submarine fella
 
We played virtually none of the top 6 teams, bar Newcastle. We didn't even beat United, ended 0-0... that stat is as useless as a chocolate submarine fella

No, it isn't useless.

Also, it is part of the more general tendency of improvement in the 2nd half of the season: 40 pts from 19 games, including vs all top teams, while being without Rodri and several defensive players for 2-4 months in that period.

40 pts from 19 games in those circumstances is really good. To expect many more is unrealistic.
 
After the loss vs Liverpool in February, Pep won 36 pts from 14 games: that's 2,57 ppg. Over 38 games that means 98 pts. Without Rodri and multiple other injuries in that period. Analyse that :)

To draw from that fact the conclusion Pep's fnished or tactically inept takes some imagination mate.

Anyway, you are entitled of your opinion. I'm not pretending I'm absolutely right or that Pep will succeed at 100%. Only time can tell.
It's who we played over that period, & more importantly our performances & tactics that concern me mate.

At the business end of the season, it's all about winning more than the performance, but that was the first time I couldn't wait for the season to end.

Our performances were way short of what I'd become used to, even though it was the business end of the season.

Last season is gone, & we start afresh, but immediately, the same issues which I saw last season, were evident again in our first two games of this season.

We've changed the squad & we've changed the coaching staff. The only things we're left to look at is our tactics & the person responsible for them.

As things stand, I want us to pay closer attention to our tactics. However, if performances continue as they have, how long will it be before the powers that be begin to focus on the person responsible for our tactics?

This is the doomsday scenario I don't want to see & desperately want to avoid. Unlike the current day rags, we're not too far gone to rectify things. But another season like last will make this season a long & painful one, & I doubt our management & owner will tolerate it.
 
Had enough of these players calling the shots. Stick him in the EDS if he doesn’t want to stay. Clubs need to start taking a stance against these players!!
 
Had enough of these players calling the shots. Stick him in the EDS if he doesn’t want to stay. Clubs need to start taking a stance against these players!!

The stance is "if you can bring us the fee we want you leave" can't see why anyone is finding this so markedly different to Ederson and Bernardo.
 

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