Jesus, how far back do you want to go? Didn’t win any titles up till 2011 either so i guess it’s alright.We have previously gone three years between 2014 and 2018 without a title and yet, here we are today.
No team has a divine right to win the title.
You simply dont know that though, its your opinion. It could just as easily continue to get worse.
There has been absolutely nothing shown on the pitch to suggest that will be the case either. Pep also doesn't have the time for months of transition football (despite us not even being in a transition because he refuses to change) - what was the purpose of him signing an extra two years if his and the clubs aim wasn't to win or challenge?
With regard to 'unrealistic expectations' you mention, the only expectations of many on here is for us to see hunger and a desire from the team to win games and ultimately compete somewhere near the top of the league - that is not at all unrealistic. Seems as though you're trying to say we are exactly where we should be in a roundabout way which is nonsense.
Yeah, that’s what i’m saying. We’re only seeing this change now due to the squad being so poor. He’s not coming on ahead of a say 31 year old Gundo. He’s coming on because we’ve signed another 50m player who Pep clearly doesn’t rate. Rico starts v a physical Spurs side because we’ve signed another don’t have prime Walker. The list goes on. We’re hardly starting potential superstar kids like Arsenal or the scousers are doing. Pep with hindsight clearly had one in Palmer but he couldn’t get regular games due to the likes of Mahrez. The drop off throughout the squad is frighteningPep has decided to give more chances to youngsters and that may be a mistake.
Other managers may do better with younger players, but there's a reason why Pep has relied on expetienced players so far: they are more consistent. We didn't have youngsters in the Treble team, all starters were 26+, except for Haaland.
Based on what exactly? What have you seen to suggest this? It's not backed up by any substance, just an optimistic opinion at best. 2 months ago we were beaten by Al hilal - the only team we've beaten is a rank bad Wolves side who will likely be relegated and you're coming out with lines like that?Back then I was predicting that we were going to win the league. I was right. Now I predict that we'll have the best team in England in the 2nd half of the season. Whether that would be enough to compete for the title depends on how many points we dropped in the 1st half of the season. But before we improve, things are likely to look bad for the next 2 months or so.
No concern for me. Building a new team takes time.
Fans have unrealistic expectations. Replacing legendary players isn't easy. We have many new players and some coming back after bad injuries. It would be a miracle if we were playing much better, given also that we had a short pre-season. We'll improve, but it will take months. When things click, we'll be quite good.
Btw, I think Pep is making a mistake with Rico and O'Reilly. They may become top players but are not ready to play for a team that aims to win the biggest trophies. Gonzalez should be way ahead of O'Reilly as an option from the bench and Gundogan is still the better player.
Pep loves Rico but when things get serious he drops him. It happened in the previous 3 seasons and it is likely to happen again. Can anyone see Rico starting games for Liverpool, Arsenal or Real?
If we want to have more academy players on the pitch, then chances are we don't compete for the title. Pep is more willing to give chances to youngsters this season and that may be a mistake. Play your best available players.
Yeah, that’s what i’m saying. We’re only seeing this change now due to the squad being so poor. He’s not coming on ahead of a say 31 year old Gundo. He’s coming on because we’ve signed another 50m player who Pep clearly doesn’t rate. Rico starts v a physical Spurs side because we’ve signed another don’t have prime Walker. The list goes on. We’re hardly starting potential superstar kids like Arsenal or the scousers are doing. Pep with hindsight clearly had one in Palmer but he couldn’t get regular games due to the likes of Mahrez. The drop off throughout the squad is frightening
All it’s got is potential though. Scousers have gone and signed top players. Look at the players we’ve gone from. Gundo, Bernado, KDB, Mahrez, Walker. To who Gonzalez, Doku, Marmoush, Nunes at right back? There is not one ready made great players we’ve amongst any of these signings. The results speak for themselves and will probably get far worse.No, I disagree. The squad is quite good in terms of potential. But Pep needs time to make the whole greater than the parts.
Pep played Lewis over more experienced players in the last 3 seasons. Then he dropped him. The same is likely to happen this season. Maybe Pep sees in O'Reilly special things in training. But I'd be very surprised if Gonzalez didn't play many more minutes this season.
But it's not based on anything; it's your opinion and nothing else. You can't point to a single thing to back up your argument that it will drastically improve to the ridiculous level youre talking about.I predicted before the season a slow start. I expected it. Also, it's easy to predict that we are going to improve significantly. If people can't see why, it's their problem.
Couldn't give a fuck what that cheating tyrant did or didn't do.Fuck sake. What relevance is that?
League is 100x harder than it ever was in that cunts career.
City go three years without a title and were bang in trouble
Fans don't have unrealistic expectations at all....
But we should be challenging for the title.
But it's not based on anything; it's your opinion and nothing else. You can't point to a single thing to back up your argument that it will drastically improve to the ridiculous level youre talking about.
All you're coming out with is a general sweeping statement that we'll suddenly flick a switch in a few months and it will all be ok again. Utter nonsense.
If you hadn't realised, we are in 2025 and now in the 25/26 premier league season. I'm talking about what we are seeing RIGHT NOW, not what we have seen previously with a different set of players.Pep is the best manager in history, or one of the very bes. He needed just 8 seasons to brake many records in English football: most points, most goals, best GD, domestic quadruple, 4 in a row, and so on. If that is what you call "based on nothing", then you are just another fool. Not going to waste time with you.
That’s all true, but without the right players in his first season he couldn’t do it. So that season was used as a bit of a learning curve as we built, integrated Sane and bought Jesus in the January. By the end of that first season you could see we were going to be some side the next year. We bought the top right back in the country that summer, plus Ederson and Bernado i think and away we went.Pep is the best manager in history, or one of the very best. He needed just 8 seasons to brake many records in English football: most points, most goals, best GD, domestic quadruple, 4 in a row, and so on. If that is what you call "based on nothing", then you are just another fool. Not going to waste time with you.
There's no mad new plan needed, just some commonsense decisions. One is treating every player equally. Players are not stupid. Ya can't have too many players feeling shortchanged while they sit and watch others doing fuck all. It will eventually destroy the team. A perfect example is Bernardo, who is one of my all-time favorites, getting the nod over Nico G. yesterday. Nico comes into the weekend having won the most ground duels in the Prem, something we desperately need, a high pass completion rate and a relatively low turnover rate. Bernardo comes into the weekend off genuinely the worst I've ever seen him play when he came on v. Spurs. Yet Pep goes with Bernardo. I'm not saying Bernardo lost us the game, but we did in fact lose. Then Pep adds insult to injury by bringing on Nico O. who did fuck all the previous week off the bench. Anyone who doesn't think players pay close attention is fooling themselves. There are credibility issues forming. Not because I say so. The players are basically saying so with their performances.We all hoped that last season. It didn't come, we found form through a Haaland injury and then was hit and miss upon his return. Our season is derailed already and that isn't being dramatic. It isn't just 3 games it is what we had to watch most of last season too. We probably have to stick with it and I hope by some miracle you are right with the mad new plan
We were the best team in 2H of last season and beat Chelsea, Villa and Newcastle without which we wouldn't have got CL football. There is a lot of work to do but to say we have made no progress based on 1 game and 30 mins after virtually no pre-season is a wild over reaction.Based on what exactly? What have you seen to suggest this? It's not backed up by any substance, just an optimistic opinion at best. 2 months ago we were beaten by Al hilal - the only team we've beaten is a rank bad Wolves side who will likely be relegated and you're coming out with lines like that?
We were, but for some context, we weren't shambolic...We were mid table around December of the 2021 season. Yet, we went on a run to win that title.
If you hadn't realised, we are in 2025 and now in the 25/26 premier league season. I'm talking about what we are seeing RIGHT NOW, not what we have seen previously with a different set of players.
Despite all he has done for city and all his accolades, Pep has never had to rebuild a side like he does now and on top of that he looks as though hes lost the energy he once had and is seemingly unwilling to change a thing.
If all you can do is keep referring back to what has gone before in a completely different context instead of the reality we are witnessing now its a pretty piss weak argument if you ask me. You just carry on being a happy clapper.