What has the UK become under the far right influence?

Postman Pep said:
Why I left the left chapter whatever verse who really cares any more.

You can bang on about Mr Angry all you like but you are both in denial with your interpretations of "identity politics" .

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Is that so.

You've clearly got your knickers in a twist, give your head a fucking wobble.

I've watched the video, I agree with much of it but I'm not consumed by it, because to be honest I don't care enough about it.
 
Over the last few weeks I think the answer is clear. A nice country with a peppering of absolute fucking cunts and most of them are from my era. I grew up in a council house on Hollin Estate. My Dad did various jobs that can be brought together under the umbrella of labourer. My mum did occasional seasonal jobs to help out with the family budget. They eventually bought their council house. Neither had a discriminatory bone in their bodies ( we didn't watch Love thy Neighbour or Mind your language ) indeed my Dad was once asked to leave the Embassy Club because he was heckling Manning.

We bought from market stalls owned by Indians ate at Pakistani Restaurants we supported City that had a well established West Indian element of their support as the ground was in a mostly West Indian populated area. We knew apartheid was wrong and didn't think it was a big issue when Idi Amin expelled Ugandan Asians because they had passports that entitled them to come here and were not bothered when East Asian boat people were allowed refuge here.

FFWD to now - I have seen people of my age who have enjoyed fully funded local authorities providing leisure centres, swimming baths and parks have bought a house for £30k and because they lived there are now sat on a £500k nest egg, enjoyed DB pensions and milked them for all they could, been given healthcare by people who have come from abroad without a whimper, enjoyed years of cheaper food and FoM and the ability to move/retire to EU countries, clean rivers, clean beaches, food safe to consume and much much more. Sorry but most of my contemporaries are hateful me, me, me people who in their beliefs don't even care what their views mean for their kids and grandkids and I have come to the conclusion that they went through (as did I ) the comprehensive school system that started the chase for results for tables rather than teaching kids the ability to think critically
 
bluethrunthru said:
Over the last few weeks I think the answer is clear. A nice country with a peppering of absolute fucking cunts and most of them are from my era. I grew up in a council house on Hollin Estate. My Dad did various jobs that can be brought together under the umbrella of labourer. My mum did occasional seasonal jobs to help out with the family budget. They eventually bought their council house. Neither had a discriminatory bone in their bodies ( we didn't watch Love thy Neighbour or Mind your language ) indeed my Dad was once asked to leave the Embassy Club because he was heckling Manning.

We bought from market stalls owned by Indians ate at Pakistani Restaurants we supported City that had a well established West Indian element of their support as the ground was in a mostly West Indian populated area. We knew apartheid was wrong and didn't think it was a big issue when Idi Amin expelled Ugandan Asians because they had passports that entitled them to come here and were not bothered when East Asian boat people were allowed refuge here.

FFWD to now - I have seen people of my age who have enjoyed fully funded local authorities providing leisure centres, swimming baths and parks have bought a house for £30k and because they lived there are now sat on a £500k nest egg, enjoyed DB pensions and milked them for all they could, been given healthcare by people who have come from abroad without a whimper, enjoyed years of cheaper food and FoM and the ability to move/retire to EU countries, clean rivers, clean beaches, food safe to consume and much much more. Sorry but most of my contemporaries are hateful me, me, me people who in their beliefs don't even care what their views mean for their kids and grandkids and I have come to the conclusion that they went through (as did I ) the comprehensive school system that started the chase for results for tables rather than teaching kids the ability to think critically
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So you’re a great person, most of the rest of us are cunts and it’s the school system to blame yeah?

Cool story ;-)
 
bluethrunthru said:
Over the last few weeks I think the answer is clear. A nice country with a peppering of absolute fucking cunts and most of them are from my era. I grew up in a council house on Hollin Estate. My Dad did various jobs that can be brought together under the umbrella of labourer. My mum did occasional seasonal jobs to help out with the family budget. They eventually bought their council house. Neither had a discriminatory bone in their bodies ( we didn't watch Love thy Neighbour or Mind your language ) indeed my Dad was once asked to leave the Embassy Club because he was heckling Manning.

We bought from market stalls owned by Indians ate at Pakistani Restaurants we supported City that had a well established West Indian element of their support as the ground was in a mostly West Indian populated area. We knew apartheid was wrong and didn't think it was a big issue when Idi Amin expelled Ugandan Asians because they had passports that entitled them to come here and were not bothered when East Asian boat people were allowed refuge here.

FFWD to now - I have seen people of my age who have enjoyed fully funded local authorities providing leisure centres, swimming baths and parks have bought a house for £30k and because they lived there are now sat on a £500k nest egg, enjoyed DB pensions and milked them for all they could, been given healthcare by people who have come from abroad without a whimper, enjoyed years of cheaper food and FoM and the ability to move/retire to EU countries, clean rivers, clean beaches, food safe to consume and much much more. Sorry but most of my contemporaries are hateful me, me, me people who in their beliefs don't even care what their views mean for their kids and grandkids and I have come to the conclusion that they went through (as did I ) the comprehensive school system that started the chase for results for tables rather than teaching kids the ability to think critically
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Society has changed because everything is measured by money. Gone are the days when people aspired to have normal jobs for the past 20yrs its been how can I become rich. Whilst this started in the 80s it really accelerated around 2008, following the financial crash and the rise of social media.

You mention property wealth and DB pensions. Did the owners of the property want or expect their houses to gain so much value or is it just a function of a small minority of very wealthy individuals buying up swathes of houses to then rent that really profited. They may have a house that is now worth 500k but if you want a similar one in a similar area its value is meaningless until the capital is liquidated. With DB pensions, did the people who benefited from them say, right time to cut them off, or was it large private businesses who decided it was too much risk to their shareholders ?

What happens to that money well its hoovered up by the rich, have a DB pension and die early, well that goes on the bottom line for the pension provider. Die later and your pension and house goes to wealthy social care providers. Either way the money goes out of the pockets of normal people to the wealthy.

As for acceptance of other cultures, the 70s, 80s and 90s were immeasurably worse than today, yes there were areas where there was social harmony but they were few and far between.

Are people becoming less tolerant, absolutely but is it because of greed or fear stoked by those in the media and the relentless compression of living standards since 2008? I would say the latter has more to do with it than outright greed.
 
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Kompany Car said:
Society has changed because everything is measured by money. Gone are the days when people aspired to have normal jobs for the past 20yrs its been how can I become rich. Whilst this started in the 80s it really accelerated around 2008, following the financial crash and the rise of social media.

You mention property wealth and DB pensions. Did the owners of the property want or expect their houses to gain so much value or is it just a function of a small minority of very wealthy individuals buying up swathes of houses to then rent that really profited. They may have a house that is now worth 500k but if you want a similar one in a similar area its value is meaningless until the capital is liquidated. With DB pensions, did the people who benefited from them say, right time to cut them off, or was it large private businesses who decided it was too much risk to their shareholders ?

As for acceptance of other cultures, the 70s, 80s and 90s were immeasurably worse than today, yes there were areas where there was social harmony but they were few and far between.

Are people becoming less tolerant, absolutely but is it because of greed or fear stoked by those in the media and the relentless compression of living standards since 2008. I would say the latter has more to do with it than outright greed.
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Always said we were 20 years behind the USA in everything, crime, aspirations etc and now you can see us catching up, the scramble for cash with a fuck you attitude, the rise of social media only accelerating this, people aspiring for quite frankly the unobtainable that so called influencers bring with them. The difference between us and USA was always that in usa success was celebrated but here it was to a degree envied now that is even more evident. Trouble is the have and have nots gap has widened massively and the growing unrest due to cost of living is having a huge effect on everyone, if people with nothing are watching all this shit on social media it leads to more frustration that coupled with the fires been stoked by bell ends and we are where we are now.
 
west didsblue said:
Interesting graph released recently showing the trend in antisemitic incidents since 2008. Ignoring the spikes which relate to reactions to Israel/Palestine flare ups, there was a noticeable jump from well under 100 incidents per month prior to 2016 to well over 100 incidents per month from 2016 onwards. Wonder what could have happened in 2016 to embolden racists and antisemites to demonstrate their hatred?

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It’s a fair assumption that anti-minority incidents are up across the board as well, whether it’s religious or nationality related.
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As Stewart Lee eloquently put it, "It wasn't just racists who voted for Brexit.......Cunts did too."

We can all see what the UK is becoming as more and more St.George's flags and Union Jacks appear. It's looking increasingly hard to ever see the racist tide turning back. If the National Front ever get in - sorry; Reform - we're fucked, and I'll be out of here.

I guess we'll follow America as usual - The USA will probably re-elect before we go to the polls again and if the Republicans do well again, the world - or what's left of it - truly will be fucked, imho. That would bode well for Reform.

Which party will offer us anything but a future built on bullshit?

Glad that I'm white - and male - but very sad that it matters.
 
I asked my daughter the same question - her answer amused me.

She says we have become a nation of tattoo's and missing teeth. She says the majority of people that come into the shop where she works have loads of tattoo's ( male and female ) and missing teeth ( also both genders ) - what amuses her is why people won't pay for dentistry to save their teeth but are prepared to spend hundreds even thousands to cover themselves in tattoo's. I can confirm I could not provide any answer for what is a puzzling state of affairs
 
bluethrunthru said:
Over the last few weeks I think the answer is clear. A nice country with a peppering of absolute fucking cunts and most of them are from my era. I grew up in a council house on Hollin Estate. My Dad did various jobs that can be brought together under the umbrella of labourer. My mum did occasional seasonal jobs to help out with the family budget. They eventually bought their council house. Neither had a discriminatory bone in their bodies ( we didn't watch Love thy Neighbour or Mind your language ) indeed my Dad was once asked to leave the Embassy Club because he was heckling Manning.

We bought from market stalls owned by Indians ate at Pakistani Restaurants we supported City that had a well established West Indian element of their support as the ground was in a mostly West Indian populated area. We knew apartheid was wrong and didn't think it was a big issue when Idi Amin expelled Ugandan Asians because they had passports that entitled them to come here and were not bothered when East Asian boat people were allowed refuge here.

FFWD to now - I have seen people of my age who have enjoyed fully funded local authorities providing leisure centres, swimming baths and parks have bought a house for £30k and because they lived there are now sat on a £500k nest egg, enjoyed DB pensions and milked them for all they could, been given healthcare by people who have come from abroad without a whimper, enjoyed years of cheaper food and FoM and the ability to move/retire to EU countries, clean rivers, clean beaches, food safe to consume and much much more. Sorry but most of my contemporaries are hateful me, me, me people who in their beliefs don't even care what their views mean for their kids and grandkids and I have come to the conclusion that they went through (as did I ) the comprehensive school system that started the chase for results for tables rather than teaching kids the ability to think critically
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The school league tables were imposed on the state school system by the Con government in the early 90s.
 
Hertzblue said:
They are money laundering operations.
Yes they have some customers, but not many, they probably go through the books, especially if they don't pay cash.
The money laundering angle is, they accept lumps of cash from criminals ( drugs, people smuggling, counterfeit goods etc) and put it through their books i.e they pretend they have far more customers than they have and declare that those make believe customers paid cash , using the criminal money to cover it.
The criminals money is washed through the system , the " barber "takes a cut and repays the criminals their money.
Hope that makes sense.

The government is on to it but have barely scratched the surface , it has got so out of hand.

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So ten shops shut out of 380 raided?
 
Marklr said:
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That somehow encapsulates the whole thing that's going on right now.

I am increasingly noticing that stupid people love to throw around the words "nonce" and "paedo" to pretty much anyone they fall out with. I think it's because when you are at the bottom of society the only people you can legitimately look down on are paedophiles. I got called a "pedo" on a forum yesterday because I took the piss out of Nigel Farage. I think the link that the reptilian brain makes is that if you aren't stood outside some shithole hotel waving your flag you are complicit in the rape and murder of children.

It's quite the leap, really, especially for such tiny and poorly functioning minds.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
That somehow encapsulates the whole thing that's going on right now.

I am increasingly noticing that stupid people love to throw around the words "nonce" and "paedo" to pretty much anyone they fall out with. I think it's because when you are at the bottom of society the only people you can legitimately look down on are paedophiles. I got called a "pedo" on a forum yesterday because I took the piss out of Nigel Farage. I think the link that the reptilian brain makes is that if you aren't stood outside some shithole hotel waving your flag you are complicit in the rape and murder of children.

It's quite the leap, really, especially for such tiny and poorly functioning minds.
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Nah mate...these are concerned people that are worried about the state of the country and where it's going. Not hate filled idiots at all.
Turns out that 2 out of 5 people arrested for the Southport riots have convictions for violence against women. So, which women were they "protecting"? haha.
 
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