Have many of our “fans” become entitled?

Many many blues have become entitled. From the ones on here we all know, to mates, to colleagues. We definitely have collectively forgotten where we were as a club 17 or 18 years ago. We can forgive our younger fans for not living through those days, and having been spoilt over a decade of success. But the older blues, the ones who used to slate the rags for being entitled, many are every bit as bad as them now. From hating on our owners, to expecting too much from the team/club, to not bothering to buy tickets for league cup games, to threatening to bin season tickets it's all there. It's quite sad really. One day it might all be over, the irony is, many of the above lot would actually probably enjoy it more that way.
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
Many many blues have become entitled. From the ones on here we all know, to mates, to colleagues. We definitely have collectively forgotten where we were as a club 17 or 18 years ago. We can forgive our younger fans for not living through those days, and having been spoilt over a decade of success. But the older blues, the ones who used to slate the rags for being entitled, many are every bit as bad as them now. From hating on our owners, to expecting too much from the team/club, to not bothering to buy tickets for league cup games, to threatening to bin season tickets it's all there. It's quite sad really. One day it might all be over, the irony is, many of the above lot would actually probably enjoy it more that way.
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The club have been awful towards fans these last 3 seasons, people don't tend to react well to a big fat corporate FUCK YOU very well.

Or should they just shut the fuck up?

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Scaring Europe to Death said:
Tedious ignorant empty insult that doesn't even address the original debate.
You've got form for it as well
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They went to the Club World Cup. What do you expect them to have done? Not gone? Given the players less time off afterwards ?

I'm baffled as to why this is the hill you want to die on or why you're angry about this and think "serious questions need to be asked". Doesn't feel very rational.
 
Last season of Pellers and first of Pep I remember thinking soon forgot what it feels like to win the league and was just thankful I’d seen us win it two more times since 1968
Didn’t really want for much more then Pep kicked on and to be honest other than the same pissup in town before and after each match a routine going back over 40 years everything became a bit surreal
I’d welcome a few years without the league title as long as the club the managers and especially the players remain honest and give their all
It makes the achievement of winning the league so Special
Trips to Wembley got even worse I loved reminiscing on memories of 1969 70 74 76 and 81 even the FMC final and to be honest having done the first 12 or so visits since the Rag semifinal I’ve actually stopped going last one was Watford
Got the usual excuses FOC bladder not upto it etc etc etc but never assessed my self as entitled more disillusioned probably more to do with the advent of social media the British media the Premier League itself I take no satisfaction out of seeing this all coming when Sky started and the next thing the Cartel signed us all up to join their circus
At the time wasn’t arsed due to us being good old lickle City and my pleasure in being a City fan which incidentally despite their massed numbers all rags envy and despised us for was the tight bond and pleasure we got in just being part of our great club and the match day experience
I remember going out after the rags had been on in our club in Bridge and it would empty by 5pm especially if they’d drawn or lost
The next week if City had been on usually resulting in a resounding hammering the place would be packed til closing time. Rags couldn’t comprehend this still cant
Trophies welcomed here but not compulsory for me they don’t define us sadly only an ever reducing hard core of match goers suggest circ 20k can see this. Feel we are becoming something akin to ww11 veterans…. A dying breed
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BillyShears said:
They went to the Club World Cup. What do you expect them to have done? Not gone? Given the players less time off afterwards ?

I'm baffled as to why this is the hill you want to die on or why you're angry about this and think "serious questions need to be asked". Doesn't feel very rational.
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I'm not angry at all and I never mentioned the CWC.

I predicted that we'd struggle at the start due to the lack of a proper pre season and you called me a fanny wipe
 
Marvin. said:
Football clubs are commercialised in the hands of managers but in a systemic framework from which there is no escape. Any manager would be driven to do the same things. See Coops. They have a different ethos on paper but are forced to do the same things. Creating an island of virtue in a sea of inequity is not going to work.
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We can be competitive and not price out local support, it isn’t inescapable.

Does the club have to add in more corporate seats, do they have to sell tickets to third party sites, do they have to enforce strict match attendance rules to the elderly and sick, do they have to charge £6.20 for a pint of Asahi piss water, do they have increase season and match day tickets every year (bar this one), do they have to not release any new season tickets in a decade, do they have to make it nigh on impossible to transfer your ticket to somebody?

I don’t think they do, personally.

The product is the same to us fans who have been going to games since before we were any good, we go because it’s a local cultural institution, passed down by generation.

It just seems like everything they do is to push us away in favour of another kind of supporter.
 
oakiecokie said:
With a name like yours I hope you drummed it into her.
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I did, double kick drums loaded with dynamite, but she got hooked on City when she started playing football herself at the age of seven, which was during the 2017–2018 season. Since then, she’s only experienced us not winning the league title twice, with one of those seasons not really counting. With a win percentage of over 70%, she must be the most spoiled football supporter of all time.
 
Being called entitled when we offer legitimate debate about performamces, club decisions etc does make me laugh.

I would say the younger supporter has only known success but that is not their problem.
The club has dined at the top table for 15yrs now pretty much so the younger fans become accustomed to success which again is not their fault. If we debate a players performance or a teams collective performance does not make anyone entitled. Some of our fan base have a certain expectation of the club since takeover. Its normal however the balance has to be their around transitional periods which was last season and for me will be this.
Next summer I expect a huge investment in the 1st team playing squad with all the older players on the last year of their contracts.
Is this entitlement? No but if they dont we have to curb expectations built up over the last 15years.
 
CΛL said:
We can be competitive and not price out local support, it isn’t inescapable.

Does the club have to add in more corporate seats, do they have to sell tickets to third party sites, do they have to enforce strict match attendance rules to the elderly and sick, do they have to charge £6.20 for a pint of Asahi piss water, do they have increase season and match day tickets every year (bar this one), do they have to not release any new season tickets in a decade, do they have to make it nigh on impossible to transfer your ticket to somebody?

I don’t think they do, personally.

The product is the same to us fans who have been going to games since before we were any good, we go because it’s a local cultural institution, passed down by generation.

It just seems like everything they do is to push us away in favour of another kind of supporter.
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A supporter who can write?
 
Keith Moon said:
I did, double kick drums loaded with dynamite, but she got hooked on City when she started playing football herself at the age of seven, which was during the 2017–2018 season. Since then, she’s only experienced us not winning the league title twice, with one of those seasons not really counting. With a win percentage of over 70%, she must be the most spoiled football supporter of all time.
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Most Dads daughters usually are but is was my lad who at the age of 4 went to his first City game v Crewe Alex and IIRMC The Goat got a hat trick that day. I`m certain we won 5-2.
At now 32 years of age he hates both the Rags and Dippers more than I do and that takes some doing. ;)
Great when the support is kept in the family KM.
 
Yep they certainly have but let’s face it, we’ve always had a huge amount of cunts within our fan base anyway. Any large population of humans will have.
 
I’m almost 67, so a member of the FOC group. City were a great team when I started supporting them, then I endured the shit era which went on far too long for a club of our size; and I eventually got used to it and my expectations were quite low. I expected to never see us winning anything again.

Now we are a great team again, so my expectations have increased dramatically. The last 14 years I could never have imagined, and I’ve got used to it; we’re so lucky to have witnessed this most successful period in the clubs history. I don’t want us to slip back into another shit era, so of course I get disappointed when we don’t win. Am I entitled? Of course not in the way the OP means, but I am entitled to think the club should never let the standards slip to how they were for most of my supporting life. However, I do think our current difficulties are just temporary. Our owners are very different to what we used to have.

I wasn’t at York, but I was at Wrexham for the following lunchtime game on Boxing Day, when the revival started. ;-)
 
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