President Trump

Trevor Morley's Tache said:
What does Trump have on this guy???

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If it were true, and it’s plainly not, I’d be interested to hear exactly when Trump was an FBI informant.

Was it before they fell out, in which case it led to pretty much fuck all which means the information was wank, or it was after they fell out which presumably means he knew about it before they fell out and did fuck all about it.

The notion they were associates and only after they fell out did Trump find out about Epstein’s proclivities doesn’t bear any objective scrutiny.

Why didn’t the journalist have the presence of mind to dig deeper on this?
 
Somewhere on the site, fuck knows what thread, I commented that killing Bin Laden was wrong, totally wrong.
I was rounded on by the great and good.
I mentioned that if it's OK to 'off' Bin Laden where do you stop, surely you could make out an argument that just about anybody was a legitimate target.
Nobody agreed.
In the last 2 days we learn that North Korean fisherman were murdered by Navy Seals in 2019 (Trumps first term) and now 11 people who were on a speedboat, in international waters were murdered by US military. Because they were suspected drug dealers it seems it's ok to break international law. There is no proof drugs were on board, no proof of a destination of the alleged cargo, nothing.
My point about Bin Laden was correct. You start with him and it allows you move onto anyone you don't like.

I assume murdering Narco Terrorists within the US is now, or soon will be, acceptable.
The definition of a Narco Terrorist is presumably very flexible.
 
Blue Mist said:
Somewhere on the site, fuck knows what thread, I commented that killing Bin Laden was wrong, totally wrong.
I was rounded on by the great and good.
I mentioned that if it's OK to 'off' Bin Laden where do you stop, surely you could make out an argument that just about anybody was a legitimate target.
Nobody agreed.
In the last 2 days we learn that North Korean fisherman were murdered by Navy Seals in 2019 (Trumps first term) and now 11 people who were on a speedboat, in international waters were murdered by US military. Because they were suspected drug dealers it seems it's ok to break international law. There is no proof drugs were on board, no proof of a destination of the alleged cargo, nothing.
My point about Bin Laden was correct. You start with him and it allows you move onto anyone you don't like.

I assume murdering Narco Terrorists within the US is now, or soon will be, acceptable.
The definition of a Narco Terrorist is presumably very flexible.
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The Trump way is to keep breaking laws until someone says you can't.

You wait until he sends the national guard into Chicago to "Protect ICE officers".

We can all see it coming.

Floods the city with ICE officers. The locals film, and peacefully protest. "The are calling officers of the law shameful. We must defend them!" Then they'll kill some in 'self defence' until a judge tells him to back the fuck off.
 
Blue Mist said:
Somewhere on the site, fuck knows what thread, I commented that killing Bin Laden was wrong, totally wrong.
I was rounded on by the great and good.
I mentioned that if it's OK to 'off' Bin Laden where do you stop, surely you could make out an argument that just about anybody was a legitimate target.
Nobody agreed.
In the last 2 days we learn that North Korean fisherman were murdered by Navy Seals in 2019 (Trumps first term) and now 11 people who were on a speedboat, in international waters were murdered by US military. Because they were suspected drug dealers it seems it's ok to break international law. There is no proof drugs were on board, no proof of a destination of the alleged cargo, nothing.
My point about Bin Laden was correct. You start with him and it allows you move onto anyone you don't like.

I assume murdering Narco Terrorists within the US is now, or soon will be, acceptable.
The definition of a Narco Terrorist is presumably very flexible.
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you generally talk a lot of sense and I often agree with you, but equating a military operation to take out the leader of the terrorist organisation responsible for 9/11 amongst (many) others with those two events is wrong. Bin Laden was a legitimate target, the two incidents you referenced were not.
 
DrBlueBob said:
No but there is a long viaduct which has plenty of arches; could be some form of opportunity there.
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Will Charlie take one for the team?

His mum trolled the orange man baby on his last visit.

Maybe arrange an accidental public meeting with his noncey brother where they discuss getting their stories straight that they were both working as informants.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Will Charlie take one for the team?

His mum trolled the orange man baby on his last visit.

Maybe arrange an accidental public meeting with his noncey brother where they discuss getting their stories straight that they were both working as informants.
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The Berkshire Yeomanry are close at hand, no need for Charles to get involved. :-)
Better yet, make him walk up a few steps and see how the old ticker copes.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Trump working for the Russians and Epstein for Mossad would be more plausible.
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Pondering these files and the pressure to not release them.

Imagine if the sole reason to withhold the files is not because "Trump is in them"!

Imagine being the donor class, billionaire class, elite class and been using this "young girls" escort service for decades!

Suppose those are the people who are putting the pressure on the administrations over the years to keep this quiet, along with possibly cia and Israeli intelligence.

I dont know. But there IS a hidden power structure that is making this shit happen.

Maybe the conspiracy theorists was right. There IS a deep state. Just not what they thought it was gonna be - Hillary's pizzagate lizadrmen or Obama's death panels!

Have you seen MTG crossing over lately? Wouldnt it be fun if this was the thing that sowed the fabric of US former middle class culture back together and stuck it hard to the billionaire/ donor class and their bitches?
 
TinFoilHat said:
The Trump way is to keep breaking laws until someone says you can't.

You wait until he sends the national guard into Chicago to "Protect ICE officers".

We can all see it coming.

Floods the city with ICE officers. The locals film, and peacefully protest. "The are calling officers of the law shameful. We must defend them!" Then they'll kill some in 'self defence' until a judge tells him to back the fuck off.
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Totally agree with what you've put bar your last line. What if the judge was appointed by Biden.....
In one sense this isnt about trump, its an anti american rant.
You cannot decide who to kill and who survives. There needs to be a rule by law otherwise what is the difference between an american president and Bin Laden?
 
Nightmare Walking said:
No, mate. I am in LA for Oasis. I am staying in Pasadena.
LA seems sketchy as fuck.
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LA is freaking gigantic. No way to generalis(z)e about it.

I was supposed to be there for the show tomorrow but my kid -- for whom Oasis is her favorite(u)rite band of all time -- got an opportunity to study in the Arctic circle for several months and is there instead, so I bagged it :(
 
flook said:
you generally talk a lot of sense and I often agree with you, but equating a military operation to take out the leader of the terrorist organisation responsible for 9/11 amongst (many) others with those two events is wrong. Bin Laden was a legitimate target, the two incidents you referenced were not.
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Ok. So Bin Laden by your thinking was a legit target.
What about his second in command ? Take him out ?
Bin Ladens son, influenced by dad = terrorist, take him out ?
Where down the 'we will kill all terrorists' line do you stop ?

Let's look at the UK, why did we not kill Gerry Adams ?
Martin McGuinness ?

If you decide, as a government, that laws don't matter, what kind of government are you..... the government of Russia, Afghanistan, any African country you care to name?
Finally I will mention Nelson Mandela.
A convicted terrorist..... and yet we now celebrate him.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
LA is freaking gigantic. No way to generalis(z)e about it.

I was supposed to be there for the show tomorrow but my kid -- for whom Oasis is her favorite(u)rite band of all time -- got an opportunity to study in the Arctic circle for several months and is there instead, so I bagged it :(
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That's a shame mate. I am going to both nights. I could have remortgaged my house, so I could buy you a beer.
 
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