Palestine Action

Genuine Question(s):

Are the people arrested holding/wearing things specifically with the words "Palestine Action" on?

And if so, what is the reason that they don't wear/hold things without this specific phrase on that still shows support for Palestine?
 
Genuine Question(s):

Are the people arrested holding/wearing things specifically with the words "Palestine Action" on?

And if so, what is the reason that they don't wear/hold things without this specific phrase on that still shows support for Palestine?

They were protesting about prescribing Palestine Action as a terrorist group rather than it being about support for Palestine as such.
 
They are hero's not Twats. The Twats are the ones currently in power.
Just to be absolutely clear the "twats" I was referring to, are those that go out and damage RAF planes, not those that are protesting in favour of the "twats".

My comment wasn't aimed at those who want to spend their free time demonstrating in favour of a group proscribed as terrorists, they are just daft, why would anyone want to get a criminal record for that ?
 
At 54 seconds isn't he perfectly describing the actions of the two terrorists just this morning who have murdered six innocent civilians in Jerusalem or maybe the Houthis who sent a number of ballistic missiles and suicide drones over the weekend aiming to kill civilians. I know the usual suspects on here will be condemning those actions soon, you are all probably a bit busy performing mental gymnastics.

I can see where you are coming from but its hard to have a lot of sympathy - whats your views on Israel killing over 11 times that number of Palestinians in one day. And its happening every day. I have said it before Netanyahu and his Zionist regime are putting targets on the backs of Jews worldwide - if two blokes in Jerusalem with all the security there and civilians walking around with automatic weapons over their shoulders can do this don't you think that in other countries these shootings and worse will be easily replicated?

 
Just to be absolutely clear the "twats" I was referring to, are those that go out and damage RAF planes, not those that are protesting in favour of the "twats".

My comment wasn't aimed at those who want to spend their free time demonstrating in favour of a group proscribed as terrorists, they are just daft, why would anyone want to get a criminal record for that ?

They feel that strongly about what's happening regarding the genocide. I guess getting a criminal record is worth it. All the authorities needed to do was prosecute the individuals involved and leave the rest alone. It's all on the Goverment this one.
 
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They feel that strongly about what's happening regarding the genocide. I guess getting a criminal record is worth it. All the authorities needed to do was prosecute the individuals involved and leave the rest alone. It's all on the Goverment this one.
Its not worth getting a criminal record over this
Most of thee oaps getting nicked are plain nuts
They should be enjoying their family life etc
They are what the Prescribed Terror Organisation would call Useful Idiots
 
Its not worth getting a criminal record over this
Most of thee oaps getting nicked are plain nuts
They should be enjoying their family life etc
They are what the Prescribed Terror Organisation would call Useful Idiots
As I said they think embarrassing the government and highlighting Tens of thousands of children's body parts being blown everywhere is worth it. Fair fucks to them.
 
I can see where you are coming from but its hard to have a lot of sympathy - whats your views on Israel killing over 11 times that number of Palestinians in one day. And its happening every day. I have said it before Netanyahu and his Zionist regime are putting targets on the backs of Jews worldwide - if two blokes in Jerusalem with all the security there and civilians walking around with automatic weapons over their shoulders can do this don't you think that in other countries these shootings and worse will be easily replicated?

It's a war and unfortunately in war innocents are killed, that's just a fact. Israel are the only army that I am aware of that tells people where it's going to bomb in advance. They call people, text them, drop leaflets etc but of course sometimes things go wrong, tragic accidents occur, a little like when Hamas rockets malfunction and kill their own. That said this war is the only war that I am aware of where innocent civilians are not being allowed to leave for their safety. Look what happened when Russia invaded Ukraine, countries welcomed them with open arms, they weren't stopped from leaving. Egypt won't open its border and Hamas are actively telling civilians not to leave and in many cases they are being threatened / shot if they even think about it. Why are Jews in the UK a target for the actions of the Israeli government? Were ex pats in Argentina threatened when the war in the Falklands broke out, are ex pats anywhere in the world targeted for the actions of the UK government so why are Jewish people? Doesn't it seem a little odd that a Jew walking around Manchester / Leeds / London etc could be threatened just because of what is going on a few thousand miles away? Does that mean that every Muslim in the world can be blamed for the atrocities committed by Hamas, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Taliban etc. If Hamas hands back all the hostages both living and dead, remember them, then the war will be over.
 
It's a war and unfortunately in war innocents are killed, that's just a fact. Israel are the only army that I am aware of that tells people where it's going to bomb in advance. They call people, text them, drop leaflets etc but of course sometimes things go wrong, tragic accidents occur, a little like when Hamas rockets malfunction and kill their own. That said this war is the only war that I am aware of where innocent civilians are not being allowed to leave for their safety. Look what happened when Russia invaded Ukraine, countries welcomed them with open arms, they weren't stopped from leaving. Egypt won't open its border and Hamas are actively telling civilians not to leave and in many cases they are being threatened / shot if they even think about it. Why are Jews in the UK a target for the actions of the Israeli government? Were ex pats in Argentina threatened when the war in the Falklands broke out, are ex pats anywhere in the world targeted for the actions of the UK government so why are Jewish people? Doesn't it seem a little odd that a Jew walking around Manchester / Leeds / London etc could be threatened just because of what is going on a few thousand miles away? Does that mean that every Muslim in the world can be blamed for the atrocities committed by Hamas, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Taliban etc. If Hamas hands back all the hostages both living and dead, remember them, then the war will be over.

I can't force you to see what you don't want to pal
 
It's a war and unfortunately in war innocents are killed, that's just a fact. Israel are the only army that I am aware of that tells people where it's going to bomb in advance. They call people, text them, drop leaflets etc but of course sometimes things go wrong, tragic accidents occur, a little like when Hamas rockets malfunction and kill their own. That said this war is the only war that I am aware of where innocent civilians are not being allowed to leave for their safety. Look what happened when Russia invaded Ukraine, countries welcomed them with open arms, they weren't stopped from leaving. Egypt won't open its border and Hamas are actively telling civilians not to leave and in many cases they are being threatened / shot if they even think about it. Why are Jews in the UK a target for the actions of the Israeli government? Were ex pats in Argentina threatened when the war in the Falklands broke out, are ex pats anywhere in the world targeted for the actions of the UK government so why are Jewish people? Doesn't it seem a little odd that a Jew walking around Manchester / Leeds / London etc could be threatened just because of what is going on a few thousand miles away? Does that mean that every Muslim in the world can be blamed for the atrocities committed by Hamas, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Taliban etc. If Hamas hands back all the hostages both living and dead, remember them, then the war will be over.
Oh dear we’ve got another one ffs.
 
It's a war and unfortunately in war innocents are killed, that's just a fact. Israel are the only army that I am aware of that tells people where it's going to bomb in advance. They call people, text them, drop leaflets etc but of course sometimes things go wrong, tragic accidents occur, a little like when Hamas rockets malfunction and kill their own. That said this war is the only war that I am aware of where innocent civilians are not being allowed to leave for their safety. Look what happened when Russia invaded Ukraine, countries welcomed them with open arms, they weren't stopped from leaving. Egypt won't open its border and Hamas are actively telling civilians not to leave and in many cases they are being threatened / shot if they even think about it. Why are Jews in the UK a target for the actions of the Israeli government? Were ex pats in Argentina threatened when the war in the Falklands broke out, are ex pats anywhere in the world targeted for the actions of the UK government so why are Jewish people? Doesn't it seem a little odd that a Jew walking around Manchester / Leeds / London etc could be threatened just because of what is going on a few thousand miles away? Does that mean that every Muslim in the world can be blamed for the atrocities committed by Hamas, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Taliban etc. If Hamas hands back all the hostages both living and dead, remember them, then the war will be over.
I think it’s important not to sanitise what’s actually happening on the ground through the “Hasbara” lens. These aren’t just “tragic accidents” or “things going wrong.” A very large number of the victims aren’t Hamas fighters (70% +) but ordinary civilians and disproportionately children. In Gaza, over half the population are children, and they have made up a horrifying percentage of the casualties.

There’s hundreds of credible reports from human rights groups and eyewitnesses (doctors etc.) that have documented cases where civilians, including women and children, were deliberately shot by snipers. That’s not the same as a bomb hitting the wrong building – that’s targeted killing of innocents. When a child is shot in the head by a sniper while searching for food or water, calling it “collateral damage” is deeply misleading.

You’re right that Israel often issues warnings before bombing, but that doesn’t negate responsibility when whole families are wiped out in their homes, or when areas civilians are told to flee to are bombed as well. And unlike other conflicts, civilians in Gaza don’t have the ability to leave to safety, borders are sealed, movement is blocked, and people are trapped under siege - this had been the case prior to Oct 7th but maybe not as extreme.

As for your last point absolutely, Jewish people here should not be held responsible for the actions of the Israeli government, just as Muslims worldwide should not be blamed for the crimes of extremist groups. But acknowledging and condemning antisemitism doesn’t require us to look away from what’s happening to innocent people in Gaza. Both truths can and should coexist: it’s wrong to target Jews in the UK, and it’s also wrong and far more horrific that thousands of civilians many of them children are being killed, some deliberately by sniper fire and other nefarious methods.
 
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It's a war and unfortunately in war innocents are killed, that's just a fact. Israel are the only army that I am aware of that tells people where it's going to bomb in advance. They call people, text them, drop leaflets etc but of course sometimes things go wrong, tragic accidents occur, a little like when Hamas rockets malfunction and kill their own. That said this war is the only war that I am aware of where innocent civilians are not being allowed to leave for their safety. Look what happened when Russia invaded Ukraine, countries welcomed them with open arms, they weren't stopped from leaving. Egypt won't open its border and Hamas are actively telling civilians not to leave and in many cases they are being threatened / shot if they even think about it. Why are Jews in the UK a target for the actions of the Israeli government? Were ex pats in Argentina threatened when the war in the Falklands broke out, are ex pats anywhere in the world targeted for the actions of the UK government so why are Jewish people? Doesn't it seem a little odd that a Jew walking around Manchester / Leeds / London etc could be threatened just because of what is going on a few thousand miles away? Does that mean that every Muslim in the world can be blamed for the atrocities committed by Hamas, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Taliban etc. If Hamas hands back all the hostages both living and dead, remember them, then the war will be over.
No, fuck off with this shit. It's not war, it's genocide. How many British soldiers broke into the houses of innocent Germans during WWII and slaughtered them? How many Iraqi or Afghan civilians were indiscriminately slaughtered by US or UK forces during both respective conflicts. Using war as an excuse for what is, by international legal definition, war crimes, is a fucking cop out and is the chief reason these atrocities keep continuing. And your final sentence invalidates everything you wrote, because Israel and the IDF have been committing these atrocities for generations. The hostages are a convenience for the Zionists in the Knesset.
 

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