Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

[jamesha]

Yea there’s dads been brutally murdered in public, pretty much infront of the world, but they’ll be alright, there only kids…

Are you actually being serious? The video of it is everywhere and having your dad executed I’d imagine is pretty traumatising even the older you get.

I get you don’t like his views, but you can surely show a bit of empathy?

Kirk did not believe in empathy - Google it

 

[pudge]

Being?

"...Anyway, we delivered the bomb"

 

[jamesha]

Looking forward to how South Park react to this

 

[mosssideblue]

People here keep on "quoting" him out of context , but a tiny bit of research, actually listening to what HE said, not out of context bollocks, would show anyone that whether you agreed with him or not (and I didn't on many matters), he was a decent human being trying his best to fight for what he believed in (rightfully or not). People here dehumanise him to "justify" his murder, but that's just despicable. I wouldn't wish death to anyone, let alone some lad who never harmed anybody. He had some bad takes(some good ones too btw.), and? He deserved to die for it?! I see we have a lot of gun violence fans on here.

Decent is not a term I would associate him with.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

What's the relevance of whether she works for the BBC? She works for a number of broadcasters but clearly they do not seem to have a problem with her expressing her views. Surely if she or GL does not do so whilst on air what is the problem.

Relevance being there only seems to be an issue when it’s at the BBC. I’m still not sure what she said.

 

[Blue and true]

People here keep on "quoting" him out of context , but a tiny bit of research, actually listening to what HE said, not out of context bollocks, would show anyone that whether you agreed with him or not (and I didn't on many matters), he was a decent human being trying his best to fight for what he believed in (rightfully or not). People here dehumanise him to "justify" his murder, but that's just despicable. I wouldn't wish death to anyone, let alone some lad who never harmed anybody. He had some bad takes(some good ones too btw.), and? He deserved to die for it?! I see we have a lot of gun violence fans on here.

Quoting out of context? Explain to me how his suggesting deaths by gunshot are needed to preserve the second amendment is anything other than perverse? Let's take it further, and bear in mind this guy broadcast his "opinions" for everyone to hear, imagine you're a parent of one of the victims of Sandy Hook or Columbine, and you hear someone trivialise these tragedies, how would you feel? That's before we get into his primitive views on race.

And you're going to gaslight people into believing they're taking things out of context.

 

[domalino]

Two presidential assassination attempts and a conservative figure being murdered in public. Don’t agree with someone’s view and get murdered for it apparently

This isn't new. Where have you been for the last few years?

 

[domalino]

People here keep on "quoting" him out of context , but a tiny bit of research, actually listening to what HE said, not out of context bollocks, would show anyone that whether you agreed with him or not (and I didn't on many matters), he was a decent human being trying his best to fight for what he believed in (rightfully or not). People here dehumanise him to "justify" his murder, but that's just despicable. I wouldn't wish death to anyone, let alone some lad who never harmed anybody. He had some bad takes(some good ones too btw.), and? He deserved to die for it?! I see we have a lot of gun violence fans on here.

I think I'm yet to see anyone claim he deserved to die in this thread, just fans of the american right wing compalining about it.

I'd also argue Charlie Kirk did a great deal of harm to a lot of people by spreading and whipping up his racist, islamaphobic and transphobic hate, which still doesn't mean he deserved to die, but he was absolutely not a harmless "lad" and he wasn't "just trying his best to fight for what he believed in", he was profiteering from political division.

Lastly, all the quotes I've seen on here have all the necessary context, I'd be interested in hearing which ones get explained away by context, I suspect they're just explained away by you mostly agreeing.

 

[When The Levee Breaks]

Not a gambling man, but I'd bet a month's salary...nay a years salary thar the same people who are saying Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to be killed for having an opinion, would be cracking out the jelly and ice cream if Greta Thunberg got blown up by the Israelis.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

He never said all black pilots are under qualified. It was a point about we shouldn't hire people on the basis of skin colour for jobs like pilots just to fill a quota if they're not correctly qualified. It's happened before. If they're perfectly qualified and experienced, then of course skin colour should never matter. But diversity hires for the sake of diversity hires don't belong in certain industries.

As for Martin Luther King, well his cause was good. There's claims of him being a woman beater. Also him and a pastor abused some women in a hotel room... I wouldn't put that in the category of a good person but he obviously had a good cause. That's the thing with people, they are multi-layered. Take Charlie Kirk, people would think he's a bad person but he did some good things like setting up a young black leaders summit to inspire people. you would say that's an active good right? but from a bad person in your view.

That's the thing when people have a side they choose. You can really pick holes in anybody to suit what you want to say and leave the rest

The pilots comment was blatantly racist.

He knew full well that all pilots have to meet a minimum FAA standard to even make it to the cockpit of a commercial flight. He was simply race-baiting for engagement.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

He was a state senator

Soz mate I replied later

 

[domalino]

I don't think you're supposed to aim for the jugular vein tbh, that would be ridiculous. It's actually the sign of a poor marksman.

I think they'd counter that argument with a pretty conclusive rebuttal in fairness

Presumably he aimed for the head and missed by 6 inches, which lines up with someone who's not a trained assassin but your standard American gun enthusiast. 140 yards is not exactly an impossible shot, and he was out in the open for a long time.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Do you have an alibi Pingu

Scared of heights so you wouldn’t find me on a tall building

 

[Nickyweaver01]

Not a gambling man, but I'd bet a month's salary...nay a years salary thar the same people who are saying Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to be killed for having an opinion, would be cracking out the jelly and ice cream if Greta Thunberg got blown up by the Israelis.

You are right. The Right Wingers have always been the biggest snowflakes and virtue signallers

 

[Earlyriser]

It's amazing that these right wing supporters get to start accusing a 'lefty' of a killing when their is as yet no hard evidence. One might think it was an everyday occurrence. I would remind them that

Relevance being there only seems to be an issue when it’s at the BBC. I’m still not sure what she said.

Exactly. It was part of let's get the BBC campaign

 

[oldius]

Just to clarify: he said some utterly abhorrent, racist, divisive, homophobic and violent, hurtful statements, but it is very wrong that he was murdered in cold blood in front of his family.

For the purpose of nuance, both of those things can be true.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

 

[When The Levee Breaks]

Always thought that said Mr Cook.

Shows how strong the drugs were, back then haha

 

[1961_vintage]

Not a gambling man, but I'd bet a month's salary...nay a years salary thar the same people who are saying Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to be killed for having an opinion, would be cracking out the jelly and ice cream if Greta Thunberg got blown up by the Israelis.

I suspect that this explains why you are not a gambling man.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Presumably he aimed for the head and missed by 6 inches, which lines up with someone who's not a trained assassin but your standard American gun enthusiast. 140 yards is not exactly an impossible shot, and he was out in the open for a long time.

He was literally a sitting target had this guy been the Trump shooter I think we’d have a different president now.