Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

[mosssideblue]

As it hit his spine or any bone they can splinter, helps cause more damage.

Could understand the bone splintering, but metal travelling at that speed, not so much.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

So is he definitely not a loony lefty then?

No one’s sure yet. All the people who were “sure” before have disappeared from the thread.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Why would it splinter?

Bullets splinter often when they hit bone mate, its a very nasty business.

 

[BlueHammer85]

And?

It’s not something I’d advocate,against state law and Trump wouldn’t push for it if it was on a democrat.

 

[mosssideblue]

Bullets splinter often when they hit bone mate, its a very nasty business.

Fair enough, cheers

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

Could understand the bone splintering, but metal travelling at that speed, not so much.

I don't know which rifle/ ammo was used but I'm going off the assumption it's a AR15 with a 5.56.

A 5.56 cartridge hits with an intense amount of force.. It pierces its way in but then it creates a shockwave which acts like a freight train punching organs/ bones. Then it starts to tumble so the exit wound will be much bigger than the entry wound. The only way splintering happens is if it hits something hard like a bone and that splinters or it's a hollowpoint bullet which itself splinters into little daggers doing even more damage.

But a 5.56 is generally survivable if aid is rendered immediately and it doesn't hit a critical area as it was designed to actually injure not kill so targets will have to stop fighting and take care of their wounded.

Well that was the original thinking anyways till the US realized opposing fighters don't give a crap about their fighters wellbeing and they just keep fighting.

So now they went with the 277 Fury instead. Anything from that is basically unsurvivable.

 

[Bluemanc100]

It’s not something I’d advocate,against state law and Trump wouldn’t push for it if it was on a democrat.

You might be right about this .... What a fucked up world we live in where political allegiances or beliefs seem to guide a person's feelings or transcend life and death

 

[Bluemanc100]

I don't know which rifle/ ammo was used but I'm going off the assumption it's a AR15 with a 5.56.

A 5.56 cartridge hits with an intense amount of force.. It pierces its way in but then it creates a shockwave which acts like a freight train punching organs/ bones. Then it starts to tumble so the exit wound will be much bigger than the entry wound. The only way splintering happens is if it hits something hard like a bone and that splinters or it's a hollowpoint bullet which itself splinters into little daggers doing even more damage.

But a 5.56 is generally survivable if aid is rendered immediately and it doesn't hit a critical area as it was designed to actually injure not kill so targets will have to stop fighting and take care of their wounded.

Well that was the original thinking anyways till the US realized opposing fighters don't give a crap about their fighters wellbeing and they just keep fighting.

So now they went with the .223 Fury instead. Anything from that is basically unsurvivable.

We used to use 7.62 in my early RAF days... I wouldn't want to be hit with either but if I had to I'd rather take my chances with a 5.56 from an SA80 / A2 before the 7.62 SLR round

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

We used to use 7.62 in my early RAF days... I wouldn't want to be hit with either but if I had to I'd rather take my chances with a 5.56 from an SA80 / A2 before the 7.62 SLR round

Yep agreed.. period.

A 277 Fury is basically a 7.62 on steroids!

 

[bluethrunthru]

I don't know which rifle/ ammo was used but I'm going off the assumption it's a AR15 with a 5.56.

This is the rifle they found which looks like a bolt action hunting rifle

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

No one’s sure yet. All the people who were “sure” before have disappeared from the thread.

He did apparently have an inscription on one of the unused bullets saying ‘"Hey fascist! Catch!" (Read that in the bbc)

Definitely points towards something political.

Separately it seems like a large number of people don’t understand what facism actually is. The same people want to shut down all debate and other view points, consistently use the term

 

[meltonblue]

He did apparently have an inscription on one of the unused bullets saying ‘"Hey fascist! Catch!" (Read that in the bbc)

Definitely points towards something political.

Separately it seems like a large number of people don’t understand what facism actually is. The same people want to shut down all debate and other view points, consistently use the term

From what he put on the bullets, I’d say he’s definitely a gamer, whether he was political too will come out. That he did what he did suggests so though.

 

[The blue phantom]

He did apparently have an inscription on one of the unused bullets saying ‘"Hey fascist! Catch!" (Read that in the bbc)

Definitely points towards something political.

Separately it seems like a large number of people don’t understand what facism actually is. The same people want to shut down all debate and other view points, consistently use the term

Donated over $200 to Donald Trumps campaign. Definitely Lefty.

 

[Blue Maverick]

From what he put on the bullets, I’d say he’s definitely a gamer, whether he was political too will come out. That he did what he did suggests so though.

Ye I thought the dark humour when it was read out one says If you read this you’re gay!

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Donated over $200 to Donald Trumps campaign. Definitely Lefty.

Donating $200 to a trump campaign doesn’t necessarily make you conservative either though.

Having “hey facist catch” on the bullets used to execute a conservative definitely suggest some kind of political motivation. Would you not agree?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Donated over $200 to Donald Trumps campaign. Definitely Lefty.

from a radical evil far left family

 

[mosssideblue]

He did apparently have an inscription on one of the unused bullets saying ‘"Hey fascist! Catch!" (Read that in the bbc)

Definitely points towards something political.

Separately it seems like a large number of people don’t understand what facism actually is. The same people want to shut down all debate and other view points, consistently use the term

Im so skeptical of Trump, I wouldn’t be surprised if that was something they made up

 

[meltonblue]

Donating $200 to a trump campaign doesn’t necessarily make you conservative either though.

Having “hey facist catch” on the bullets used to execute a conservative definitely suggest some kind of political motivation. Would you not agree?

At this moment, given what he wrote on the other bullets, I think it’s more likely he got that from Farcry.

All speculation though, it’ll come out soon enough.

 

[oldius]

He did apparently have an inscription on one of the unused bullets saying ‘"Hey fascist! Catch!" (Read that in the bbc)

Definitely points towards something political.

Separately it seems like a large number of people don’t understand what facism actually is. The same people want to shut down all debate and other view points, consistently use the term

Typically, I find the use of woke, snowflake, lefty and radical attempt to smear and shut down debate.
In fact, Kirk was one of several who wanted to shut alternative views down in leading universities.
None of which excuses his slaying, of course.

 

[mosssideblue]

We used to use 7.62 in my early RAF days... I wouldn't want to be hit with either but if I had to I'd rather take my chances with a 5.56 from an SA80 / A2 before the 7.62 SLR round

I started my military life using .303 then the 762 and ended on D5LE :)