Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

She might not realise this but she has made herself a target for the vast number of nut jobs that reside in that country. Some of them are probably of dreaming of becoming 'the man' who has ever done the double on a husband and wife and the coverage that would generate

I don't think anything would happen to her but it's not the nutjobs she should be worried about. It's the people who are pushing the US vs them narrative, the people who are hungry for total control, those are the ones who might want to use her to push their agenda for all out war.

The guy knows he's not going to have a third term, republicans know they shit the bed terribly by allowing him hijack their party and when he leaves, they would need to go to work for years before getting anywhere close to the white house.

Americans generally are tired of both Democrats and republicans, so if Trump is going to do what he wants to do, then he's going to fast track his agenda, meaning more martyrs would be needed. More people would have to involuntarily "donate" their heads for his dream to be realised.

 

[west didsblue]

An interesting read.

When “Catch This Fascist” Doesn’t Mean What You Think,

How far-right trolls use leftist symbols to hide in plain sight

rachelandthecity.substack.com

Not sure how he could have thought Kirk wasn’t fascist enough.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

on further reflection I think they have missed a real money maker. Offer the 'faithful' an opportunity to have their photo taken by the open casket. I'm sure the dimwits would be quite happy to pay 1000$ for that once in a lifetime experience

Why do you think they want him laying in state. Live social media feeds, followers taking selfies, they’ll turn it into a Notting Hill carnival type of event.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The guy knows he's not going to have a third term

I’m not sure that’s correct.

 

[mattcity5]

Why do you think they want him laying in state. Live social media feeds, followers taking selfies, they’ll turn it into a Notting Hill carnival type of event.

I think Notting Hill is a bit too multi-cultural as a comparison...

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

I’m not sure that’s correct.

His base are sick of him, you should have seen the videos coming out from rural town hall meetings before this shooting happened. This would get people fired up and right back on his side for a while but how many more of this nonsense would have to happen before people start realising that they are being played?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I think Notting Hill is a bit too multi-cultural as a comparison...

More of a RW version, maybe with flags going up in the ‘burbs and on overpasses ;-)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

His base are sick of him, you should have seen the videos coming out from rural town hall meetings before this shooting happened. This would get people fired up and right back on his side for a while but how many more of this nonsense would have to happen before people start realising that they are being played?

I expect the wishes of the electorate are far from his mind when evaluating a third term.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Jesus I’ve seen his wife on that video it’s sickening all for tv, they are brainwashed and we have idiots over here doing a vigil for him. If it turns out he’s not to the left what they going to do then ? Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump goes full on state funeral for him he loves a good parade, a fucking you tuber!

 

[BTH]

This is so depressing. No calls for calm, no let's bring America together, no let's review gun ownership, no hope whatosever...

Just a determination to espouse more hatred, more chaos, more blaming of and baiting the left and more industrial scale inadequacy from Trump.

Widow of Charlie Kirk says her ‘cries will echo around the world like a battle cry’

In statement on Friday, Erika Kirk says ‘evildoers’ involved in husband’s death ‘have no idea what they have done’

www.theguardian.com

 

[west didsblue]

His base are sick of him, you should have seen the videos coming out from rural town hall meetings before this shooting happened. This would get people fired up and right back on his side for a while but how many more of this nonsense would have to happen before people start realising that they are being played?

The actual number of votes at the next election will be irrelevant. The plans are in place for a Republican victory using gerrymandering, voter suppression and numerous other obstacles to a Dem victory, and they now control the courts.

 

[Earlyriser]

I don't think anything would happen to her but it's not the nutjobs she should be worried about. It's the people who are pushing the US vs them narrative, the people who are hungry for total control, those are the ones who might want to use her to push their agenda for all out war.

The guy knows he's not going to have a third term, republicans know they shit the bed terribly by allowing him hijack their party and when he leaves, they would need to go to work for years before getting anywhere close to the white house.

Americans generally are tired of both Democrats and republicans, so if Trump is going to do what he wants to do, then he's going to fast track his agenda, meaning more martyrs would be needed. More people would have to involuntarily "donate" their heads for his dream to be realised.

I think we might have different definitions of what a nut job is US style

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

This is so depressing. No calls for calm, no let's bring America together, no let's review gun ownership, no hope whatosever...

Just a determination to espouse more hatred, more chaos, more blaming of and baiting the left and more industrial scale inadequacy from Trump.

Widow of Charlie Kirk says her ‘cries will echo around the world like a battle cry’

In statement on Friday, Erika Kirk says ‘evildoers’ involved in husband’s death ‘have no idea what they have done’

www.theguardian.com

I thought this part was especially telling.

“The evildoers responsible for my husband’s assassination have no idea what they have done,” Erika said. “They should all know this: if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea what you just have unleashed across the country and this world.”

Blaming it on a group of people, rather than a lone killer, despite there being zero evidence that he didn’t act alone.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

The actual number of votes at the next election will be irrelevant. The plans are in place for a Republican victory using gerrymandering, voter suppression and numerous other obstacles to a Dem victory, and they now control the courts.

And if you take away the democratic mechanisms of suppressing one side of the debate view point parts of the population will get more and more desperate, using violent means to lash out. This incident won’t be an outlier there will unfortunately will be more. The worrying thing is that the whole left v right agenda is engulfing this country as well and we seem as a population just as thick as Americans for falling for snake oil salesman blaming the countries problems on minorities they don’t like.

 

[west didsblue]

And if you take away the democratic mechanisms of suppressing one side of the debate view point parts of the population will get more and more desperate, using violent means to lash out. This incident won’t be an outlier there will unfortunately will be more. The worrying thing is that the whole left v right agenda is engulfing this country as well and we seem as a population just as thick as Americans for falling for snake oil salesman blaming the countries problems on minorities they don’t like.

Yep, sadly we’re no different with a Trump wannabe leading the polls over here.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

This is so depressing. No calls for calm, no let's bring America together, no let's review gun ownership, no hope whatosever...

Just a determination to espouse more hatred, more chaos, more blaming of and baiting the left and more industrial scale inadequacy from Trump.

Widow of Charlie Kirk says her ‘cries will echo around the world like a battle cry’

In statement on Friday, Erika Kirk says ‘evildoers’ involved in husband’s death ‘have no idea what they have done’

www.theguardian.com

This is why I’ve given up on anything ‘USA’, it’s a complete basket case. We knew it was coming with Trump but the undercurrent has always been there for him to tap into.

The Kirk thing surprised me, that he was allowed to groom the young on behalf of the RW. Could this happen in our schools and colleges, would our gatekeepers allow the likes of Tommy Robinson to go and debate their views?

Put it one way, I personally won’t be visiting their anytime soon and hopefully we wake up and stop importing their means of dividing the country.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I thought this part was especially telling.


Blaming it on a group of people, rather than a lone killer, despite there being zero evidence that he didn’t act alone.

Who are these group of people? Amazed she didn’t get ‘Radical left’ in there.

 

[Scottyboi]

They're now saying his one semester of online college was what must have radicalised him away from his Republican upbringing. Not long before the book burning begins.

 

[N1985]

Oh look, his wife is a **** too. Who would have guessed.

 

[JASR]

This is so depressing. No calls for calm, no let's bring America together, no let's review gun ownership, no hope whatosever...

Just a determination to espouse more hatred, more chaos, more blaming of and baiting the left and more industrial scale inadequacy from Trump.

Widow of Charlie Kirk says her ‘cries will echo around the world like a battle cry’

In statement on Friday, Erika Kirk says ‘evildoers’ involved in husband’s death ‘have no idea what they have done’

www.theguardian.com

The only person I’ve seen come out with anything like a decent human position from the usual numbnuts, was the Utah governor Cox - calling for conciliation and togetherness.

For a evangelical (probably) Christian, that was a noteworthy statement, that has been swallowed up by hate rhetoric