Bee network bus strike

dronefromsector7G said:
Cruises are for coffin dodgers.
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When the Saga over 90 discount kick in.


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So many people at bus stops when I was cycling (on routes with no service).

More strikes around the 30th too. The joys. Hate that takes an option of transport away for many people.

Is it down to the operators not wanting to cut into their profits and pay fairly? The numbers for payment to the Bee Network seem more than sustainable for services, staff, residuals, etc.
 
Well, thank god that's over. Until next week at least. Thankfully found another parent to lift share for my daughter for the last couple of school days, with me picking up, but to do so I've had to alter my work schedule, at a time when my employer is actively looking for heads to chop off.

The traffic build up around 3pm was just hell too. Basically taken me an hour to go and fetch each time. Saw many, many incidents of road rage around schools, driver impatiently running reds whilst kids were waiting to cross, parking all over the place, just totally unacceptable. I can't do the same pickups next week unfortunately for the next strikes so it's Uber if kids can use it, or possibly walking the miles home on her own. I'm extremely uneasy about either option, just doesn't sit right with me to place a young girl in a stranger's car or make her walk home alone a few miles.

I still maintain that making the school kids and families the victims in this disagreement is wholly wrong, regardless of each sides position and justification. It has decreased the safety of the kids and increased our costs at a time when we're all struggling. The displays of human behaviour on display too have been totally demoralising. I hope they sort their arses out in the next few days and find a solution
 
bluetonium said:
Well, thank god that's over. Until next week at least. Thankfully found another parent to lift share for my daughter for the last couple of school days, with me picking up, but to do so I've had to alter my work schedule, at a time when my employer is actively looking for heads to chop off.

The traffic build up around 3pm was just hell too. Basically taken me an hour to go and fetch each time. Saw many, many incidents of road rage around schools, driver impatiently running reds whilst kids were waiting to cross, parking all over the place, just totally unacceptable. I can't do the same pickups next week unfortunately for the next strikes so it's Uber if kids can use it, or possibly walking the miles home on her own. I'm extremely uneasy about either option, just doesn't sit right with me to place a young girl in a stranger's car or make her walk home alone a few miles.

I still maintain that making the school kids and families the victims in this disagreement is wholly wrong, regardless of each sides position and justification. It has decreased the safety of the kids and increased our costs at a time when we're all struggling. The displays of human behaviour on display too have been totally demoralising. I hope they sort their arses out in the next few days and find a solution
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Unfortunately with strike action it’s unavoidable.

Maybe part of your anger should be directed at the schools and/or councils/authorities who arrange the transport. Could school buses be separated out of public transport? If they’re “offering” transport as part of their “service”, free or not, once it isn’t available they should be offering alternatives, either by organising replacement vehicles or allowances for children struggling to make the commute.
 
Total fuckin shambles.

That goggle eyed scouse prick is talking out of his arse saying it's a success.

My daughters bus for school still turns up late and still goes the wrong way. A 10 minute journey taking 30mins isn't acceptable but let the scouse bellend keep pulling the wool over our eyes.

This country is absolutely shite at everything.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
Unfortunately with strike action it’s unavoidable.

Maybe part of your anger should be directed at the schools and/or councils/authorities who arrange the transport. Could school buses be separated out of public transport? If they’re “offering” transport as part of their “service”, free or not, once it isn’t available they should be offering alternatives, either by organising replacement vehicles or allowances for children struggling to make the commute.
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School buses organisation is nothing to do with schools in the state sector.
I neither know nor care how the private sector organise them.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
School buses organisation is nothing to do with schools in the state sector.
I neither know nor care how the private sector organise them.
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That’s why I put “and/or” to cover whatever arrangements there might be as I don’t have a database of every school arrangement ;)

However, unless it’s changed in the last twenty years or so since I had to choose a school for my kids, most of them push the bus service as a solution for choosing them when it would be difficult to travel otherwise. However once it’s removed they pass the issue onto the next entity. That said, from a practicality perspective parents should be aware that buses aren’t guaranteed and should choose schools where alternative arrangements can be made quickly.
 
Noticed a few buses did run yesterday.
Was in town and a #8 and 100 passed me.

Assume it was Managers and maybe the odd scab driver behind the wheel?
 
Deepest Blue said:
Noticed a few buses did run yesterday.
Was in town and a #8 and 100 passed me.

Assume it was Managers and maybe the odd scab driver behind the wheel?
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I hate that word with a passion, it invokes the union wankers in the 60's who held the country to ransom using the drones following them as weapons.

I can't wait until the bus service all comes under one big umbrella so that the country can truly hit its knees again with strike after strike that nobody can solve.
 
mexico1970 said:
I hate that word with a passion, it invokes the union wankers in the 60's who held the country to ransom using the drones following them as weapons.

I can't wait until the bus service all comes under one big umbrella so that the country can truly hit its knees again with strike after strike that nobody can solve.
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Hate away mate.
Treat workers decently and there won't be strikes.
 
Deepest Blue said:
Hate away mate.
Treat workers decently and there won't be strikes.
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There isn't any hate in my statement at all, the unions nearly did for this country and the term "Scab" is a very hateful term.

Treat workers decently is such a shit throwaway comment that means the sum total of fuck all, people in these unions couldn't give a fuck about hand to mouth workers or the zero hour people or delivery drivers etc.

If it looks like a **** and it smells like a **** it's a ****.
 
mancityvstoke said:
I didn't notice any strikes ....due mainly to the buses being so fucking shit anyway.

Not sure about coffin dodgers but a lot of you cunts are deffo soap dodgers.
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My bank balance noticed a difference as I had to get an Uber both ways for my two.nights out at the weekend, instead of just going home lol.
 
Blue Mist said:
If I didn't explain it very well I'll try again.
I spoke to many of the strikers at the bus depot on 2 separate strikes. Very few agreed with the strikes. They knew that they were better paid than drivers who worked for other bus companies and their conditions of work were better, yet they were on strike, therefore losing money. They were QUOTE happy with their lot but against many of the members wishes they were on strike
I know what the rules about ballots state, I can only post what was told. Further, I've deleted this bit twice but sod it .... no, there is something I want to say but won't, let's just say they were told how to vote and they did as they were told.

You said they don't strike on a whim. One strike was because the bus company looked to level everyone's pay.
When the councils ran the buses each area had different pay structures. Halifax/Huddersfield were on less money than Bradford so the private company now running all 3 depots increased their wages to match Bradford

Bradford called a strike.
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They knew they were better paid than their colleagues doing the exact same job. Yet they didn’t want to stand alongside those self same colleagues in trying to get parity of pay / conditions. And not strike.
There’s a word for people like that.
Scab.
If you’re in a union, and the ballot favours a strike, you strike. Or fuck off and don’t accept paid holiday, sick pay, double pay etc - all things the unions have done for us.
 
Deepest Blue said:
Noticed a few buses did run yesterday.
Was in town and a #8 and 100 passed me.

Assume it was Managers and maybe the odd scab driver behind the wheel?
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Might have been routes that initiate outside of GM? Like the 199 I saw that starts in Buxton.
Or a scab who’d happily pick up any improvements in pay / conditions but won’t strike - vermin.
 
johnnytapia said:
Might have been routes that initiate outside of GM? Like the 199 I saw that starts in Buxton.
Or a scab who’d happily pick up any improvements in pay / conditions but won’t strike - vermin.
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The 8 runs in Bolton and that area was largely unaffected. The drivers are still employed by the separate companies like Stagecoach, First Bus etc and there are differences between them with regards to pay etc. so some voted to strike and others either voted in favour of not striking or didn’t have a vote.
 
johnnytapia said:
They knew they were better paid than their colleagues doing the exact same job. Yet they didn’t want to stand alongside those self same colleagues in trying to get parity of pay / conditions. And not strike.
There’s a word for people like that.
Scab.
If you’re in a union, and the ballot favours a strike, you strike. Or fuck off and don’t accept paid holiday, sick pay, double pay etc - all things the unions have done for us.
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I'm sorry but I do not understand your post. You are replying to a specific post. Your reply makes no sense.
Workers in Huddersfield had tradionally been paid, by the council, less than workers doing the exact same job in Bradford who were paid by Bradford council.
When a private company took over both services, in agreement with the local (Huddersfield) union, they increased the pay of drivers to match those at Bradford.
The union at Bradford brought the drivers out on strike as they did not want equality.
You can state all you want about secret ballots but the simple fact is Bradford bus drivers went on strike.

Please explain how that is sensible, honest, good for the passengers, anything but greed and stupidity
 
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