AS Monaco (A) | CL | Post Match Thread

[Marvin.]

are you crackers, 4 home matches & 4 away matches in this new format, if we win our 4 home games & draw our 4 away matches that gives us a total of 16 points if you think thats not enough to qualify in the top 8 your mad.

Look at last seasons CL table. Villa qualified automatically in 8th on 16 points. That's marginal. We are 8th now.

In the Group format it would work because you had 2 good teams and 2 bad teams.

 

[Silva Citizen]

I blame Rico Lewis. The position he took on the bench was completely wrong.

 

[NeilMcnabTwoFooted]

Look at last seasons CL table. 16 points got you 8th. That's marginal. We are 8th now.

granted but do you honestly think we won’t win another away match Madrid away apart we’ll definitely win one, it was disappointing last night we should of killed game off, but too much doom & gloom we’ll be fine last seasons champions league results won’t occur this season we’ll be right

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I agree with most of your posts across this forum, but Nico's toe is at the same height as his own nose. His 'standing' foot is already a foot off the ground, so you can add that into the equation, too. Dier is also airborne. Nico's boot must be 6ft 6in in the air. A criminal decision.View attachment 171145

Are you telling me that if he makes the same decision against Brentford (even allowing that PL refs are slightly more lenient with this stuff) you wouldn't blame him?

Yes. Because I expect my defenders TO DEFEND. This was simply unlucky. How many times does a player — defender or no — lift his leg this high in a match and someone’s head is there vs. not? You know as well as I do that if he’d just stood there and Dier had scored the same people slagging him off for this foul would be doing the same for standing still.

 

[Fordyboy46]

Are we a Haaland injury away from a total collapse. Others need to start stepping up with some goals, I just don't see many other contributors in this squad

 

[bluemoon32]

Pep never wants his team to con referees dive “play the referee” which is a shame when the margins are so small now and with five subs tiring out teams now is none existent! We have that much of the ball we could easily work on passing in pen box learn to play the game that other do as in any touch fall down! I bet if one of our player went to head the ball didn’t get touched like he didn’t then dive hold his head then the whole Monaco team complained to the referee! Out play wouldn’t of gone down and carried on!

In fairness, we have a few players who like a dive or two, we're no angels

 

[Ajm1985]

Two big games, Gonzales has come on and cost us, lost the ball against Arsenal leading to a goal and given away a penalty which was always going to be given, simply put he needs to do better, sounds harsh but decision making at the top level he has been found wanting, undoing all the good work

He was fouled at Arsenal, but even then it was in their half and there were people far more culpable than him for their goal - Savinho didn't close down, Aké played him onside, Donnarumma miles off his line. Blaming him for that goal is just inaccurate

 

[NeilMcnabTwoFooted]

Are we a Haaland injury away from a total collapse. Others need to start stepping up with some goals, I just don't see many other contributors in this squad

Fodens contributed he was unlucky last night so was Reijnders there was a lot to like about last night & a lot to not like but we’re ultimately moving in the right direction a bit of tweaking fitness being improved Rodders for example & players coming back from injury

 

[Doc_Testosterone]

In the bigger picture a draw away at Monaco is a disappointing result because in the new CL format,a win at home and a draw away is a perilous outcome. A win at home and a draw away would in the seeded Group stages be enough for qualification. City would set up to neutralise transition away from home, and nick wins or typically draw. That's no longer good enough. To qualify automatically you need to win some away games and Monaco away was probably our easiest away fixture.

We need to change our low-risk tactics away from home in the CL

The real problem is that Monaco were the 4th seeded team we played. We still have game against Madrid, Leverkusen, and Galatasaray.

 

[.db.]

Too much focus on the penalty. We should have already scored enough by then. It’s not a disaster but is a reminder that this team is still a work in progress. The one big concern for me was Rodri. He didn’t look right at all.

I agree, I thought we were really poor in that second half. We were just going through the motions at times, no urgency at all outside about three or four moves all half.

Haaland summed it up in his post-match interview, ‘doesn’t matter about the penalty, if he kicks him in the head it’s a penalty, we didn’t play well, we didn’t do our jobs, I didn’t do my job, and it’s not good enough’.

 

[The Mighty Marmoush]

Yep - whether it's fair or not, it's a fact of footballing life that if you play for a lesser team your season will be defined by your highlights, whereas at a club like City, you'll likely be judged by your mistakes.

I don't blame him for Arsenal - I lay that one squarely at Savinho's feet - but last night, in a European tie where everybody knows UEFA's interpretation of the rules, Nico might as well have just punched that ball away. None of this debate about the parts the referee or Dier played would even be taking place had he not made the ludicrous decision to raise his foot in a crowded area.

Can't blame it on fatigue, either. He has to be more savvy - we can't afford another slow-witted player on the pitch.

Ok, so he should just stand there and not challenge for the ball? Which he won by the way, and if he did just stand there and let Dier get a free header you would be moaning at that, so the lad can't win, and I dont understand all the people spouting thats a penalty in Europe, could you people give me the rules for the champions league please, as I always thought the rules were the same as the Premier league

 

[i8rags]

He didn't play well. It's hard to know in the moment what is to be expected at this moment after the injury.

If he’s genuinely recovered is my concern

 

[Manchester33]

In the bigger picture a draw away at Monaco is a disappointing result because in the new CL format,a win at home and a draw away is a perilous outcome. A win at home and a draw away would in the seeded Group stages be enough for qualification. City would set up to neutralise transition away from home, and nick wins or typically draw. That's no longer good enough. To qualify automatically you need to win some away games and Monaco away was probably our easiest away fixture.

We need to change our low-risk tactics away from home in the CL

If we won all four home games and drew in four aways, we’d finish on 16 points.

3 clubs finished on 16 points last year and all qualified in the top 8.

A draw last night wasn’t a terrible result. Shame not to win, but that’s football!

 

[bluemc]

Sounds to me a lot of people came to watch a football match for the first time. When the ball is at head height you must exercise carefulness. You leg should be absolutely clear from potentially collision with opponent’s head no matter what. It is called high boot and it is not a recent invention by EUFA. There is no argument about who touched the ball first in this situation.

All credibility of your point was lost at "EUFA".

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

In a general sense, there's a deplorable tendency for the team to take its foot off the gas, having done good work in the early stages of a match and gone ahead.
When you go ahead, you put your foot on the neck of the opposition, and throttle them by opening up a two- or even three-goal lead. Then you can start knocking it around for fun.

 

[cookster]

Christ, what a simplistic view

It's a simple game.

 

[give it to gordon]

What was the reason for the penalty ? I guess a high foot. But the studs weren't showing so not dangerous, the ball had been played before dier head the boot.

If the studs had hit dier it would make more sence but to head the top of the boot is the same as heading someone's arm or hand.

Cant talk about how City played as I didnt see the game just the highlights.

 

[Brendan110_0]

It was never a penalty if you're Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Liverpool. UEFA doing what they always did in this competition. Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[manimanc]

Just checking that we didn't get beat last night as the bedwetters and kneejerkers are in their element tonight.
(Of course some of them are fans from other teams but ssshhh don't tell them we know).

 

[IrishBloodEnglishHeart]

What's Pep said about the ref? Or we just taking the cheating as standard, once again