Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)



Another family die with this innocent little girl today if only Hamas would hand over the hostages then Netanyahu would bring all the troops home and stop the bombing campaign???
 
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I haven’t joined this discussion since that cursed day of October 7. I’ve been a member of this forum for many years and wanted to focus only on football. Today, after almost two years, I returned to the conversation. I didn’t expect anything different but it still hurts me deeply how many people here feed on the lies of pathetic terrorists.

There is no hunger in Gaza, that lie has been debunked countless times and was spread from the start as psychological warfare to stop the war. The skinny children you see suffer from genetic illnesses, and I’m not even talking about the number of AI-generated fake images. Israel is bringing in hundreds of trucks every day with food, fuel, hygiene products, and everything else the people in Gaza need. Check the facts; don’t believe everything you read.

Since the beginning of the war, the food Israel has brought into Gaza is equivalent to 3,000 calories per person per day - more than people eat daily in countries not at war. Do you know what is true? Hamas seizes most of the goods that enter for free, shoots people in cold blood when they try to take food, and then sells it at astronomical prices to pay its terrorists’ salaries. Hamas is the one who started this war -murder, rape, burning people alive, beheading, and kidnapping more than 1,400 people in a single day during a Jewish holiday. Hamas still holds about 50 hostages; these people are alive, kept in tunnels, starving and chained. Check me on this.

For two years Hamas has refused to make a deal to stop the war even though Israel agreed to countless proposals to end the war on condition that the hostages would be released and Hamas would give up its weapons. Hamas won’t agree. They operate from schools, mosques, hospitals, and populated civilian areas intentionally, using the people there as human shields. I can’t understand how you don’t see this.

How can you choose the side of extremist Islam that wants to kill all Jews and you in Europe are next? How can you not see that extremist Islam is expanding across Europe and threatening every one of you? Don’t believe me? Wait a few years and you’ll see how big a mistake you made.

I have nothing against Muslims. I have many Muslim friends. Over 2.5 million Arab citizens live in Israel and we live side by side. I’m talking about extremist Islamists who want to live by Sharia law and consider anyone who isn’t Muslim an infidel who must be killed. You have no idea how wrong you are: instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender, you are helping them, even recognizing a Palestinian state. Gaza was an independent Palestinian territory; Israel left it twenty years ago and gave it self-rule. Instead of improving people’s lives - building, creating better living conditions, turning it into the Riviera of the Middle East with technology, industry and commerce - they repeatedly chose terror.

We’ve been hit with tens of thousands of rockets over the last twenty years, thousands of people killed and the peak was October 7: 1,200 killed in one day and 250 kidnapped. Look at who Hamas’s leaders are and how much money they have. They live lavish lives in seven-star hotels -they are billionaires, while their people are desperately poor. Every dollar of aid to Gaza and the Palestinians over the past twenty years either ended up in hamas leaders private pockets or was used to build terror infrastructure: thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and disguises. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about.

Remember my post in a few years when terror attacks won’t be only in synagogues like today but also in churches, restaurants, bars and on the streets. If Hamas had surrendered, this war would have ended long ago. Now imagine thousands of terrorists storming London or Manchester in one day and brutally murdering 1,200 innocent people, burning them alive, beheading them, raping women. Wouldn’t you expect your country to wipe them out to ash? Or would you agree to give them a state in the middle of England as a prize?
What are the boundaries of Israel?
 


Another family die with this innocent little girl today if only Hamas would hand over the hostages then Netanyahu would bring all the troops home and stop the bombing campaign


I very much doubt he would given his pronouncements but today is not the day for this debate in all honesty
 
There is no hunger in Gaza

I wonder if you actually believe this or are just chucking out vile, easily disproven lies to get a reaction. Given the Israeli government itself has admitted children are starving, and simply debate the numbers and that they caused it, I’m leaning towards the latter.

Which then of course begs the question why someone would choose today of all days to rage bait in this thread?


Glad you put it at the start of your post though so I could disregard the rest.

Shame on the users liking this hateful bullshit though.
 
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I'm in Porto at the moment with Mrs Mist. Around 6pm we saw in the distance a protest march that was slowly griding all the traffic to a halt. We were too far away to see what it was about.
Around 9.30pm after coming out of our concert we saw the traffic all around was gridlocked.
Just after we came across the reason. People, perhaps 200 in total were protesting on behalf of the Palestinian people. They had finished there march and blocked a main cross road junction to continue the protest. No traffic was moving.
The police stood off and did not intervene. (Oh how I wish the British police would have the balls to do that.)

This is not going away. People throughout Europe, normal people are voicing their opposition to genocide.
We joined in.

Politicians need to realise that voters are judging them on their actions. This will not end unless the Israel leaders are brought to the International Criminal Court.
 

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Never a bad time to protest against thousands being murdered and kids being starved. Whilst our spineless government do very little to help
I don’t agree. A huge terror attack just took place and the police are stretched to their limits.

After the Manchester arena bombing or Southport suppose you’d be alright with a mass anti extremist protest - the day of the attack?

Btw I was in Manchester when the protest took place today and plenty of the public were giving them abuse. I don’t think the public were on their side at all. By all means protest, but read the room.
 
Disgusting, but inevitable, that Sky News lead with their next story that our PM caused this.

*Shakes head, never thought I’d see such a thing.
 
I don’t agree. A huge terror attack just took place and the police are stretched to their limits.

After the Manchester arena bombing or Southport suppose you’d be alright with a mass anti extremist protest - the day of the attack?

Btw I was in Manchester when the protest took place today and plenty of the public were giving them abuse. I don’t think the public were on their side at all. By all means protest, but read the room.
The people protesting tonight don’t give a shit about what happened at that synagogue- they’re showing their true colours.
 
Don’t call my country a terrorist state, you pathetic piece of human trash. Read some history,learn about the Israel-Palestinian conflict from more than just the narratives you hear from Arab sources. Would a war have broken out if Hamas hadn’t attacked and murdered thousands on October 7? No. Would the war have ended long ago if Hamas had disarmed and returned the hostages? Yes. So what do you want from Israel, you antisemitic piece of shit? Thankfully there weren’t many people like you in the past who sided with murderous Nazis otherwise you’d all be speaking German

Fuck my Life. You can criticise the behaviour of Your President without being antisemitic, you do realise that don't You? You are an extremist and don't even realise it.

The 'War' didn't start on the 7th October, as well You know. I actually think You are a troll at this point so You are going on ignore.
 

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