Munich references in current chants.

[wearethesouthstand]

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In the 1894 members mailer this week the group appealed to fans to 1 drop the Munich bit after if you hate Man Utd clap your hands and 2 drop the unnecessary reference to Munich after “jaap stam” during the Zabaleta song.

There’s been a suggestion of change this line to “who’s that” after Jaap Stam is mentioned.

We’re not saying it’s widespread or that anyone from any particular group is responsible but it is there it is unnecessary in the year 2025 and this is something surely fans can self police at home and away games.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

In the 1894 members mailer this week the group appealed to fans to 1 drop the Munich bit after if you hate Man Utd clap your hands and 2 drop the unnecessary reference to Munich after “jaap stam” during the Zabaleta song.

There’s been a suggestion of change this line to “he’s harder than West Ham”

We’re not saying it’s widespread or that anyone from any particular group is responsible but it is there it is unnecessary in the year 2025 and this is something surely fans can self police at home and away games.

I have always sang he’s harder than me mam

Don’t like to reference the Rags in any way if possible

 

[hallsteve62]

I always sing 'Who's he?' after the Jaap Stam bit.

 

[tregyblue61]

In the 1894 members mailer this week the group appealed to fans to 1 drop the Munich bit after if you hate Man Utd clap your hands and 2 drop the unnecessary reference to Munich after “jaap stam” during the Zabaleta song.

There’s been a suggestion of change this line to “he’s harder than West Ham”

We’re not saying it’s widespread or that anyone from any particular group is responsible but it is there it is unnecessary in the year 2025 and this is something surely fans can self police at home and away games.

"Harder than a Tank" would have been a better line. There again, watching ruSSian tanks having their lids blown off so easily, maybe not.

 

[uwerosler28]

They have no business telling people what they can and cant sing.

 

[Corky]

It used to be a tank when it first started.

West Ham is a shit hole in east London with no relevance as a comparison.

 

[There is a Light]

They have no business telling people what they can and cant sing.

So you approve of the Munich chants continuing then ?

They also have done it to their own members so they are not telling the wider City fan base what they can and can’t do. If any of their members have a problem with what they’ve said they can unsubscribe or leave if they wish. That’s up to them

 

[Glossopinlondon]

Just change japp stamp to van damme, problem solved

 

[Inter Me Nan]

He's harder than Inter Me Nan.

 

[Gazza]

I don't have a problem with dropping the Munich chants for obvious reasons, but dropping the Jaap Stam part, why?

 

[There is a Light]

I don't have a problem with dropping the Munich chants for obvious reasons, but dropping the Jaap Stam part, why?

Because stam is the spur for Munich afterwards?

 

[Bobby the blue]

No need to drop the jaap stam bit but totally agree that there is no place in this day and age to mention anything to do with the Munich air disaster.
I’m not a prude or sensitive soul but I do find it uncomfortable that it’s sung still.

I hope we can eradicate it.

 

[leithblue]

They’re asking. Sensibly. Like a grown up, that the moronic bellends who think Munich chants are funny to stop it.

They’re not telling anyone to do anything.

 

[Gazza]

Because stam is the spur for Munich afterwards?

Which is already covered by my first point.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Hardly gets sung anymore anyway just let it fade out naturally. If Zabba gets a coaching role maybe start this thread.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I always use Van Damme. Never chanting the name of a united player unless it's followed by "...is a ****" or something similar.

 

[bluemc]

Why the reference to Jaap Stam anyway? Pab Zab joined City a whole 7 years after Stam left the rags, so it's not as if they ever shared a pitch, and surely we can have a song celebrating Zaba without the need to mention the rags at all?

 

[Eccles Blue]

In the 1894 members mailer this week the group appealed to fans to 1 drop the Munich bit after if you hate Man Utd clap your hands and 2 drop the unnecessary reference to Munich after “jaap stam” during the Zabaleta song.

There’s been a suggestion of change this line to “he’s harder than West Ham”

We’re not saying it’s widespread or that anyone from any particular group is responsible but it is there it is unnecessary in the year 2025 and this is something surely fans can self police at home and away games.

I've always sung he's harder than mi Mam for the Zaba one!! ;-)

 

[Eccles Blue]

They have no business telling people what they can and cant sing.

So you have no problem with the fans and the club being in trouble with the authorities for tragedy chanting then?

Munich was a terrible time for the whole of Manchester and at the time of Munich there was not the bitterness there is today.
I was an office junior (they don't have those nowadays unfortunately) at the time and was sent out every hour to check the newspaper shop on the corner who posted a bulletin in an upstairs window for us. I confess that I cried when Duncan Edwards died as he was a hero of mine at the time. (City one week Stretford the next)
So Munich chanting has long, long, long been a very big hate of mine and I do not hate easily.

Plus as Zabba is my Mr Manchester I would not like his name being associated with Munich chants thank you.

 

[uwerosler28]

So you approve of the Munich chants continuing then ?

They also have done it to their own members so they are not telling the wider City fan base what they can and can’t do. If any of their members have a problem with what they’ve said they can unsubscribe or leave if they wish. That’s up to them

I'm not really fussed one way or another. I come from a generation where fans habitually chanted such things at each other and neither side made a deal out of becoming offended by any of it, simply gave some it return and actually generated an atmosphere inside the grounds. Same as I had no issues with the rags chanting about Fodens mum yet many blues were appaleptic with rage over it.