Tipping on ordering

I have been to a few places in the last year or so where very strange tip culture is starting to creep in. Mrs and I went for a meal today in a Pizza restaurant where the food was really good, half decent value and will more than likely go again. However when we went in, we got sat down at a table and the waitress said you could go to the bar to order or "the best way is to order on the app". No problem with ordering off the app, but as you pay it is asking for 5%, 10%, 15%, 20% or other amount tip. There is a button at the bottom that says maybe another time. I find this really weird as I am not against tipping but I would like to do it at the end of service? All that had happened was we had been sat down at our table.

We went to a couple of bars in London about 6 months ago too where we had just ordered a couple of drinks at the bar and the drinks had not even been served before you pay and being asked to tip.

Am I missing something?
If there's a button at the bottom that says 'maybe another time', then press that and they'll probably ask you about the tip again at the end of your meal.

In my opinion you don't tip for the service you're going to get , you tip at the end of the meal because hopefully you're happy with the service you got!
 
I tip quite generously if I feel I've had good service but it shouldn't be forced or compulsory and that tip when buying a drink at the bar, not even a pint or a cocktail shite needs outlawing. The person chucking your shopping at you in Aldi will want a tip next.
 
I tip quite generously if I feel I've had good service but it shouldn't be forced or compulsory and that tip when buying a drink at the bar, not even a pint or a cocktail shite needs outlawing. The person chucking your shopping at you in Aldi will want a tip next.

Lol, yes they do shift a bit in there, don't they ? I had to move sharpish the other day at checkout in there before two tins of fruit cocktail and a pint of milk landed on my foot!
 
Lol, yes they do shift a bit in there, don't they ? I had to move sharpish the other day at checkout in there before two tins of fruit cocktail and a pint of milk landed on my foot!

In fairness they do it because they aren't just till staff and also have to stack the shelves clean the building and so on and the more time they are stuck on a till the higher the chance they will have to work late. Definitely not a peaceful customer experience though!
 
If there's a button at the bottom that says 'maybe another time', then press that and they'll probably ask you about the tip again at the end of your meal.

In my opinion you don't tip for the service you're going to get , you tip at the end of the meal because hopefully you're happy with the service you got!
I pressed 'maybe another time'. Ironically, there was no opportunity to leave a tip at the end. And I would have done!
 
Pretty well everyone is under the cosh mate. Businesses and punters.
Near me, almost every pub/restaurant adds a service charge up to 15%, a pub filet steak can be near £40 and a barely decent wine is £30 a bottle. They say the service charge is optional but really - who wants to end an hopefully convivial evening with an awkward conversation! No wonder places are struggling. The noticeable trend here (in the Cotswolds) is for pop-ups selling street food which in Manchester and big Cities has been around for a while.

Someone wants to make me feel guilty for not giving them money that I shouldn't be giving them then that's on them. I can very easily walk away from a business that tries to rob me using false morals and guilt tripping me.

Ending the relationship with a business is easy.
 
Just the two, 4 of us went 2 adults 2 kids.
£25 burger, little bowl of chips,soft drink each, bosh a days wages spent.. never again

I don’t bother going out for meals now. I can make better for £10. My local Pub menu is the worst. Lasagne is about £16 , a burger £15. It’s all shite. Can easy spend £70 for 3 of us in a pub that isn’t even great. I’d rather not.
 
Probably all skimmed by the management, don’t think they have ‘tronc ’ nowadays
Not skimmed anywhere my son has worked and he’s worked in a few restaurants. To be honest it would be quite difficult to skim because most people pay on cards now and it goes straight in the digital accounts as service charge and would show.
 
About 15 of us went to gaucho last year for Christmas do.
They had a thing on where if you registered on their website you got 2 free cocktails (which were pretty much undrinkable).
When the bill came, they had charged for a load of cocktails so we questioned it and was told only 8 people per party were allowed to use it so we had to pay for the rest.
It was pointed out to them that if we had to pay for cocktails then we would be asking for the service charge to be removed to cover the cost.
The 8 person rule was quickly ignored after that
 
I don’t bother going out for meals now. I can make better for £10. My local Pub menu is the worst. Lasagne is about £16 , a burger £15. It’s all shite. Can easy spend £70 for 3 of us in a pub that isn’t even great. I’d rather not.
Our local is quite good but like you the prices have reason to such a degree £15-17 for a basic meal is getting out of hand, £10-12 I was happy with so with a few drinks looking at £50 ish now it’s getting upto £70 they can do one. Thing is prices will never go down either, so where does it end?
 
Our local is quite good but like you the prices have reason to such a degree £15-17 for a basic meal is getting out of hand, £10-12 I was happy with so with a few drinks looking at £50 ish now it’s getting upto £70 they can do one. Thing is prices will never go down either, so where does it end?

I suppose it ends when more people stop paying it. Everyone has a limit I think.
 
Went into a petrol station once and when I paid by card at the counter, the card machine popped up with "Gratuity?".
I served myself FFS!

In my opinion, tipping should ONLY apply if you have been given particularly good service. If all they have done is write my order on a pad and bring it to me - that's the bare minimum requirement of the job and deserves no tip. Anything less and you'd be sacked.
 

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