Stats are fucking pointless shite. Your eyes are the only stats you need.
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Aston Villa (A) | PL | Post Match Thread
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Stats are fucking pointless shite. Your eyes are the only stats you need.
Eaststander1
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It was only a whack in his bollocks from the post.
Isabel's not gonna be happy with that , or the result .... she was probably lookin' forward to a City win, and a bit of 'how's your father' later, but now she'll get neither,
SWPISHOME
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I don't understand not playing Kovacic OR Nico Gonzalez, it was clear as day the midfield wad light, Reijnders isn't a holding midfielder as he can't sense danger. Savinho starting again I just don't understand it, that's on top of him lasting 83 minutes.agree with all of that except the Pep bit....
I think again like last season he knows we arent strong enough....
I said during the summer that we had too many average players...issues at fullack, CDM and wingers....got roundly jumped on by some regulars on here.....but here we are....Like you say, we got away with it over the last few weeks playing some bang average teams and gettting results...but against the better teams we will struggle and that list of better teams is growing
Surely Marmoush and Cherki could have been given the nod today as Bobb, Doku and Savinho aren't doing enough.
Anyway, I don't know where we go from here, this isn't an easy fix.
Ref was shit overall I thought, but he was the least of our worries today.No. The replay showed it definitely came off our player
LangleyBlue1970
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We have Bournemouth nextWe're in the mix for top four and that's it. Arsenal six points clear and we have Liverpool next. Now I know their results haven't been great lately but do you see us stopping them scoring and scoring ourselves?
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Bloody amazing how we are 4th in the League, we only have two players we can rely on the Don and big Erl.
Pedestrian
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I’m choosing Vinny/dave/kev/sergio every time as well but unfortunately time caught up with them. There’s a few managers in the prem that are out performing him with less resources.Maybe tongue in cheek but trust me Guardiola would walk if he didn’t think he could improve us and win things.
In my mind it comes down to a simple choice. Who do you want as your manager, Pep or someone else. I’m choosing Pep every time
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we been much better than last two seasons here, thats the positive for me.
Pep told us before the game why he could not started Nico, Rodri is out, so many here moaning brainlessly as usually. We do not really lost the midfield battle anyway, we just did not create enough and been unlucky: few blocks, last second interceptions, rebounds all went Villa's way.
Savinho made few things happen, actually his sequence of two shots, last off the line been good. Reijnders been decent, hes just not a 6. Foden been decent, but we need more out of his talent in a game like this. Bernardo, Stones rather poor. Bobb very poor, couldnt create anything and couldn’t time his runs to get on the end of balls played across the box. So sad to say, but hes been a definition of useless today.
Pep told us before the game why he could not started Nico, Rodri is out, so many here moaning brainlessly as usually. We do not really lost the midfield battle anyway, we just did not create enough and been unlucky: few blocks, last second interceptions, rebounds all went Villa's way.
Savinho made few things happen, actually his sequence of two shots, last off the line been good. Reijnders been decent, hes just not a 6. Foden been decent, but we need more out of his talent in a game like this. Bernardo, Stones rather poor. Bobb very poor, couldnt create anything and couldn’t time his runs to get on the end of balls played across the box. So sad to say, but hes been a definition of useless today.
Agreed. What they need is someone in charge, someone to manage them, someone to tell them how to play, someone to say "suicidal high line - don't do that". Someone to say "we keep getting these corner things, shall we practice then during the week?". Someone to say "through ball on to haaland - give it a go, it's ok if it doesn't always come off", someone to say "you can cross to a player rather than smack it as hard as you can in the vague direction of the penalty spot." Now what's that called again?11 very technically gifted footballers the majority of whom could not impose themselves playing an academy
Look completely disinterested and have no creative ideas or game plan
Stealing a living
malg
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I'd agree with that.Ref was shit overall I thought, but he was the least of our worries today.
We have Bournemouth next
Ha well that doesn't fill we with optimism either given their recent form.
GOULDYBOBS
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I thought he was offside in the buildupThe corner kick ..... Nunes reckoned it wasn't one!
To think after 9 games we are level on points with that shite team over in Stretford tells you a lot. To those saying being critical is not on I honestly think Erling's goals have papered over some glaring issues with the team.
Given how we play the wide men should have about 3-4 goals between them 13 games into a season. Doku has 0 in 8 and Savinho has 0-5 Bobb has 0-7 (mainly sub appearances to be fair) but you get the point. That is the issue nothing much else. Then add Phil not scoring alongside non of our DM's getting goals and teams know defend Haaland and you stop us. Pep has to fix that. I believe we have the players but looking at today as an example keeping some of our biggest threats on the bench is not working.
I am so pissed at the performance and it hurts to lose to a team that has McGinn and Onana as their main midfield. They beat us because they wanted it more and that is not acceptable if you want to be a team challenging.
I'd like to know the results when we play with 2 out and out wingers over the last 2 years but I'd guess they would not be the best. When we do our midfield looks vulnerable and not balanced. We were at our imperious best when we had either wide players who scored/created a lot or when we had one winger with one of our better ball retention players out wide.
So where do we go from here? Of course we have to get behind Pep and his coaches but there has to be a change of ideas - we cannot go on just hoping Erling wins us matches. Today should be a wakeup for them - you have to create and score from other areas or teams will continue to sit back and attack on the transitions which without Rodri we are not fit enough to deal with - shocking.
Onward and upward I guess, but for me the first name on the team sheet in the next PL game has to be Cherki just to give him a go and give him some confidence to make us tick rather than keep saying he has to learn to defend first.
Given how we play the wide men should have about 3-4 goals between them 13 games into a season. Doku has 0 in 8 and Savinho has 0-5 Bobb has 0-7 (mainly sub appearances to be fair) but you get the point. That is the issue nothing much else. Then add Phil not scoring alongside non of our DM's getting goals and teams know defend Haaland and you stop us. Pep has to fix that. I believe we have the players but looking at today as an example keeping some of our biggest threats on the bench is not working.
I am so pissed at the performance and it hurts to lose to a team that has McGinn and Onana as their main midfield. They beat us because they wanted it more and that is not acceptable if you want to be a team challenging.
I'd like to know the results when we play with 2 out and out wingers over the last 2 years but I'd guess they would not be the best. When we do our midfield looks vulnerable and not balanced. We were at our imperious best when we had either wide players who scored/created a lot or when we had one winger with one of our better ball retention players out wide.
So where do we go from here? Of course we have to get behind Pep and his coaches but there has to be a change of ideas - we cannot go on just hoping Erling wins us matches. Today should be a wakeup for them - you have to create and score from other areas or teams will continue to sit back and attack on the transitions which without Rodri we are not fit enough to deal with - shocking.
Onward and upward I guess, but for me the first name on the team sheet in the next PL game has to be Cherki just to give him a go and give him some confidence to make us tick rather than keep saying he has to learn to defend first.
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN
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Some whack thoughIt was only a whack in his bollocks from the post.
Blue Til Death
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Yes I do .. I see us winning the game comfortably, against a team with a defence set up for City to plunder .. A very long way to go and the Arse will bottle it again, as they always do..We're in the mix for top four and that's it. Arsenal six points clear and we have Liverpool next. Now I know their results haven't been great lately but do you see us stopping them scoring and scoring ourselves?
Whilst stats can sometimes be interesting I think it’s a stretch to absolve Phil from a poor performance overall because he had a few moments where he played a key pass.I'm not interested in this modern obsession with stats. They don't score goals or defend, they are meaningless tripe.
He was poor, nothing wrong with thinking that because it’s true. Shame as he had looked more like himself recently.
B\connellblue
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Maybe I do maybe I don't. If Nico Gonzalez was fit to play 45 what did it matter if it was the first or second. The amount of time our players spend out even with what look innocuous injuries leads me to believe they are overly cautious.You know better than them, right?
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I’ve seen nothing in him that makes him first choice. Another average buy.And mad that we’ve got a first choice left back that we bought in the summer who can’t even get on the bench, lol.
porkchopsaplenty
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No Rodri or Nico to break up play & Playing Reijinders there was arrogant by pep to be polite. Not starting Doku & O'Reilly too when they didnt play 90 mins midweek ffs?! What the fuck was Pep thinking?! Whats he saving young players for?! Swansea? They can play loads as they have young legs. Just like Brighton & Spurs that defeats on Pep selection & tactics. Love the guy for what hes won but sometimes hes stubborn & his selection doesnt make sense. We looked a far better team when Nico, Doku & O'Reilly came on. They start that game we get at least a point.